“You’re on Notice” – Police Union Rep Releases Open Letter to Americans With “Anti-Law Enforcement” Attitude

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2015/06/19

Dave Mutchler, the president of the “Fraternal Order of Police” in River City has issued an open letter to Americans, putting some of them “on notice.” Here is the letter presented in its entirety. Let us know what you think.

Consider this an open letter to the public we serve, the criminal element in our city, and the self appointed spokespersons who choose to remain blind to reason, who use misinformation and who sensationalize tragedy at every opportunity to forward their political agendas.

Know this: The members of River City FOP Lodge 614, who serve and protect Louisville every day, will no longer stand on the sidelines while anyone continues to assault and demonize us.

To those of you that support us while we serve and protect you — Thank You. Although you are not chosen for media interviews, we know that you understand we are here for you and your families. We know that the vast majority of you see that ninety-nine percent of police officers serve with integrity and courage. Although we know in our hearts that you are the silent majority, sadly, that may not be enough. Soon, we may have to ask for you to rise with us against the small, but very vocal group of people in our city who resist everything we all strive to attain — freedom, safety and the ability to live our lives happily and without fear.

To the criminal element in our community-we do not fear you. We are not your punching bag and we will not simply stand by and accept your verbal or physical assaults. No matter what craziness occurs, we will always protect our citizens and ourselves. No matter how weak our criminal justice system, we will hunt you down again and again until they put you away or you go away. No matter how weak our policies we will find a way to make you understand that Louisville isn’t where you want to live. Most importantly, though, take note of the following: If you actively resist or assault us, we will use every option available to take you into custody. If you use deadly force against us or use or attempt to use a dangerous instrument or deadly weapon against us, we will use deadly force against you and we WILL stop the threat to us, our fellow officers or the citizens we serve.

To the sensationalists, liars and race-baiters —we are done with you. At first it was good enough just to sit back and watch your ridiculous spectacle. No more. Now your rhetoric, lies and hate puts all of us, police officers and citizens alike, in danger. From now on we will call you out each and every time you tell a lie, twist the truth or otherwise engage in vile behavior meant to push your selfish agendas. If your behavior or untruths causes harm to us or the public, we will make every attempt to have you investigated, charged and prosecuted at the local, state or federal level. Your idiocy and lies are what caused the destruction in Ferguson and other cities around our country and we won’t be tolerating that here. We watched in shock most recently as some of you flat out lied to the media after a critical incident here in Louisville. Many in the media are self serving too, and we watched as they stood on the sidelines and fanned the flames for financial gain.

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  • Mathieu Hubin

    Legalize your crimes and they are no longer crimes eh? Here’s MY open statement to this cop. You are paid through criminal activity. (Extortion) to commit criminal activity (Extortion, assault, murder, violations of civil rights, the list goes on) So why don’t you get a real job and stop being a leech on the collective asses of the American people?

  • Rob Samuel

    best defense is a good offense..in other words expect more of the same

  • Patrick H.

    Well we’ve been warned. Arent the police there because the people have perceived dangers? I mean did we start policing sometime ago, but there realy was’nt a danger but now all of a sudden now there realy is a danger. The real danger is when you hire a person as an officer and that personson turns out to make a choice to turn crimminal but with a badge and gun. And rather than put them behind bars like any other criminal you back them up. You give them immunity and people hate that. It make everyone look bad. Police but also police your ranks with the integrity you police others with. Stand against all injustice not just the ones you dont like.

    • Bennie

      Well said…If these men had the consistency and integrity they profess there would be no issue they would punish their criminals a quickly as any other and we all would have much more trust…the really problem that is not addressed is what is the source of the lack of trust that many now have in law enforcement? Is the lack of trust backed by untrustworthy actions? Lets have the right conversations instead of saying…”you are trying to hold me accountable…but I have a gun and a license to kill so shut up cause my might makes right”

      • Justin Chapman

        I think the biggest problem in law enforcement is membership in freemasonry. It is very rampant throughout the criminal justice system and that is why many are never prosecuted. They can’t go against each other. It is a brotherhood in itself but how much more if many of them are freemasons.

  • Patrick H.

    Go back to NO VICTIM NO CRIME.

  • David Gillespie

    Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest

    “Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529.

    • misdirection

      Thank you.

    • Ron Rankin

      This needs to be known by everyone

    • Chumscrubber

      Amen brother.

  • Jay Vincent

    Seriously? It sounds like your whining ass wants to put us on paid administrative leave, since we’re to be held to the same level, and all that bullshit.

    QUOTE: “To the criminal element in our community-we do not fear you.” Is this why you shoot unarmed people? Is this why you punch pregnant mothers in the stomach and slam their heads to the ground? Are you comPENISating?

    QUOTE: ” If you refuse to comply or even worse, attack a law enforcement officer, expect to be met with force.” Keep shooting unarmed people, and getting off on it. Force… Bwaaahahahahaha.

    Give me a fucking break. Your offer is refused for cause. Check yourself, motherfucker. You’ve already wrecked yourself.

    • TomKi

      It is a good thing that these people periodically wreck themselves.

    • Anonymous

      The guy is fat as hell and doesn’t even walk the streets anymore. He’s their president.

      By the way: (502) 968-0117

      That’s their non-emergency number. Why don’t we give them a complaint or two? They’re from Louisiville, Kentucky.

  • baruchzed

    Nowhere in this letter do I see the author suggesting that cops take any responsibility for their misdeeds. What misdeeds? How about the ones that we see every day from across the country caught on video…those misdeeds, and the many more that are not caught on video.

    If Mr. Mutchler acknowledged any wrongdoing by police, this letter would have some credibility. Instead it comes across as a threat. He is reinforcing exactly what he is castigating the public for saying. I think this guy should be in a different line of work.

    • TomKi

      I suggest Wal-Mart greeter.

      • Papaduke

        Yikes, if you fail to say hello back to him, he would tackle you and put his knee in your back…

        • Craig Mcgregor

          Or say ‘stop resisting’ and beat you up

    • Ken Pederson

      The police union is fully backing EVERY member of their union….whether they are “good” cops…or state authorized murderers !!! The damn union more or less endorses murdering the same people that pay their salary…..

      • Kat Ford

        The “Thin Blue Line” they all stand behind has done more harm to police respect than they realize. “We the people” are tired of the double standards and demand equality.

        • Craig Mcgregor

          So true

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AGREE WITH THE ABOVE.

      • tufflove

        if a cop joins a union he should be fired. his job is not like working in a factory where things can be hidden much more easily. if he has a problem he can go to the chief he that doesn’t work then he can go to the mayor, if that don’t work the board of trustees of that doesn’t work mayors can be elected out of office, I have knocked on thousands of doors and helped it work, I have also began a movement and had a whole school board removed as well as the superintendent of the schools. in a district of over 6,000 students. .now that is a power that a factory worker doesn’t have. if you want to clean up a government you have to be willing to knock on doors, yes I had my life threatened, but I would rather be dead than to live like a rat who is forced to live in the shadows. If we can send our kids off to fight and even die for countries that we have nothing to do with then we can fight for what we have everything to do with right here at home. if your community doesn’t have your back then why would work for them? no more unions for cops.

    • fisharmor .

      He is in the exactly right line of work. Stop trying to make police into something they never have been and never can be.

    • NEIL C. REINHARDT

      AGREE

  • Chris Utley Liccardi

    Protect and serve? You protect your own asses and serve your government masters. Who do you think you’re kidding? You’d better put yourselves on notice that things are only going to get worse for you until you clean up the garbage in your ranks. Threatening us is a waste of time. Your very presence is a threat to most Americans as it is.

  • Greg Couch

    My main thought on this rambling manifesto is that he should have sought out somebody to edit this thing for him.

  • Mr. Burns

    WELL FUCK YOU WHITE BOY. BRING ON THE REVOLUTION YOU PIG SON OF A B!TCH, WE’RE READY. Pigs like this are all talk, do something you moron. Do it and get it over with so we can do something to your bald, pink skinned, white supremacist ass.

  • Acooknamed Backfat

    I hope Dave Mulches that you never breed and if you already have then i hope yer children die of cancer before they have a chance to breed as well. Jeez man couldn’t the police at least find a cop who is not fat to represent them?

  • John Arndt

    He says he serves the citizen, go to police one and see how they feel about that.

  • RL

    Dave Mutchler- You are the type of person that has no business in law enforcement. You and you fellow officers started this whole thing by acting as if you ARE the law. You are NOT the law but enforcers who are to APPREHEND AND DETAIN ONLY, not be judge, jury, and executioner on the streets. It is NOT your duty to punish any ‘offender’ no matter what! It is not your job to ‘makeup’ imaginary laws in order to obtain your arrest QUOTAS, which have been deemed ILLEGAL. Citizens have NO DUTY to COMPLY with unlawful orders. Keep your hands off people, be respectful not beligerent, and stop behaving as bullies in a school yard. I see you say ABSOLUTELY nothing about your dirty cops that plant evidence to convict someone, SWAT teams abusing their authority by busting in someones house for a warrant and not just using the SWAT for hostage and kidnappings as they were intended for. You run amok, being violent whenever and to whoever you choose unless it’s someone that can make YOUR life miserable, just as you do the citizens of this country. Now you have a good chance of people resisting and some of the perceived power you thought you had will be taken away, which is what this is about. Power and control of the people. How about removing bad cops from your groups will be a good start, for it is THEY that have tarnished the police but yet, even when they are wrong, you refuse to stop them. Which means you condone their behavior and often HELP them cover their ILLEGAL actions. How about STOP LYING!

    • Ken Pederson

      WELL SAID /

    • Dr. H. Sawyer, Jr.

      Well said, and Beautifully stated, RL !!!!! ” RUN AMOK ” ???? So true, RL !!!!!! Way cool posting!!

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        BS

    • mark are

      The whole good cop/bad cop question can be disposed of much more decisively. We need not enumerate what proportion of cops appears to be good or listen to someone’s anecdote about his Uncle Charlie, an allegedly good cop. We need only consider the following: (1) a cop’s job is to enforce the laws, all of them; (2) many of the laws are manifestly unjust, and some are even cruel and wicked; (3) therefore every cop has agreed to act as an enforcer for laws that are manifestly unjust or even cruel and wicked. Therefore there are no good cops. ~Dr. Robert Higgs

      • Nathan

        when they start busting the corrupt cops and putting them under the jail,
        I might allow them a little bit of authority.
        it’s gonna take a long time to undo the damage
        they have done for the past 150 years of overseeing.

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          THEY DO

          • Christopher C

            then they should cleanup in Billings, MT and on the Indian reservations the Democratic and Republican Parties smuggle drugs into the US… but they’re using Idaho currently I-15 to be exact! ” )

          • IllaConsiderit

            Sounds like something a recently terminated, disgruntled ex-employee might say…

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            PROVE IT!

          • Mozart

            You’re a COP, aren’t you Neil?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            IF YOU COUNT BEING AN MP IN AN ACTIVE ARMY RESERVE UNIT (SAN JOSIE, CA.(FOR SOME FOUR MONTHS WHILE GOING TO DEEP SEA DIVING SCHOOL IN OAKLAND CA. OR BEING A CIVIL DEFENSE AUX POLICE OFFICER FOR AROUND FIVE MONTHS WHILE A LIFEGUARD IN MIAMI BEACH, FL, THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            WHAT I AM CHILD, IS A MUCH MORE GENERALLY EXPERIENCED THAN MOST MY AGE OF 81, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, VERY LOGICAL, EXTREAMLY TRUTHFUL AND HIGH IQ OLD FART WHO BELIEVES IN FACTS AND PROOF.

          • The_Sage_Mage_of_Rage_Uncaged

            Did you actually read what Dave Mutchler wrote? Because, I think, he belongs in a padded cell. Rarely do I encounter anyone as obviously out of touch with reality as the retard who wrote that open letter. To serve, and, protect.
            Yeah? Exactly who, are you, (cops), supposed to serve and protect? Those who lie, and propagandize? Those who criminalized cannabis, a plant that has never killed one single human being, in all of recorded history?
            Cops serve those who provide them their paychecks, and, become minions to their benefactors. The reason intelligent people are NOT hired to be citizens on patrol, is, intelligent people would soon realize that, they are doing someone else’s dirty work, they are performing, at best, jobs of absolutely questionable legality, and, they are doing jobs that are, and, put them in direct conflict with Americans, and, American values. In short, cops, are, anti-American.
            Do you know how many state and federal supreme Court justices have opined, that, “Free people, need not be policed?” Policing, has nothing to do with public safety, nothing to do with keeping order on the streets, or even fighting, stopping, or preventing crime(s). It is about, stopping people, who are NOT breaking Laws, to find reason(s) to issue citations (tickets), for, infractions, (violations of statutes), in order to generate extra revenue. Period. Cops are not in the least bit interested in stopping or decreasing the level of “crime” anywhere, the end result of that successful outcome, will invariably be, LESS COPS NEEDED TO FIGHT ANY LOWER INCIDENCE OF CRIMINALITY. Capisce?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            LIKE I CARE WHAT PEOPLE WHO HIDE BEHIND SCREEN NAMES WHILE COMMENTING THINK? NO WAY, JOSE!
            PS, AS. MANY YEARS AGO, I WAS AN ALCOHOLIC, THE ODDS ARE HIGH YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ARRESTED AS MANY TIMES AS I WAS. OR DID YOU SPEND AS MUCH TIME IN JAILS OR PRISONS..
            PPS : YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT IT MOST PROBABLY DRIBBLES OUT OF YOUR NOSE, EARS AND EYES AS WELL AS YOUR MOUTH!

          • The_Sage_Mage_of_Rage_Uncaged

            Exactly what did I write that was inaccurate or incorrect? If you cannot cite one error, or, prove what I said to be wrong, then, it is YOU, who is full of shit. But, we both already know which of us is full of shit, and, it is not me. I don’t “hide” behind a screen name, it is just how discuss was configured when I created this account, but, that is completely irrelevant, the only reason you brought that up, is, it helped bolster your ad hominem attack. Not surprising considering you did not even attempt to refute one single point I included in my post…

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            “he belongs in a padded cell.”

          • We Hobson

            Neil appears to have a issues with anyone who disagrees with the police, generally. It comes out in all his statements.

          • The_Sage_Mage_of_Rage_Uncaged

            Perhaps you will notice, NOONE agrees with any of your posts.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            ONLY THE WEAK AND THE SHEEP CARE IF OTHERS AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT.

          • Santastops09

            I call scum like you cop suckers..

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            LIKE, YOU PUNK ASSHOLE COWARD, I CARE WHAT SOME ZERO LIKE YOU THINKS!

          • Santastops09

            EAT SHIT YOU OLD COP SUCKER ..

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            IF I DID EAT SHIT, I COULD FEAST ON YOU FOR MANY YEARS AS ALL YOU ARE IS SHIT! AND YOU ARE A COWARD AS YOU ATTACK YOUR MORAL AND INTELLECTUAL BETTERS WHILE HIDING BEHIND A SCREEN NAME.

          • Doug Thomsen

            shut yer pie hole ya old pisstank copdicksucking degenerate

          • Jesus

            Fact: The constitution allows the government to ban NOTHING!!!
            Now…where do they get authority to ban a plant sir?
            Most of the laws are commercial codes, cops enforce on non-commercial people.
            Ordinances, statutes, all the same…unconstitutional!!!
            Cops are the criminals that violate our constitutionally protected rights.
            Suck it smart guy.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FACT , JESUS NEVER EXISTED. HE IS PURE FICTION.

            FACT, NO ONE SAID THE CONSTITUTION DID.

            GO GET YOURSELF A BETTER BRAIN AS THE ONE YOU HAVE IS NOT WORKING VERY WELL.

          • Mozart

            NO – WRONG! Police policing Police is NOT dispersing Justice…

      • Nobody

        You have nailed it perfectly in a vein very similar to my “no such thing as a good cop” argument. When “good” men violate the rights of their fellows, it matters no whit that they were enforcing the so-called “law”. I do seem to recall a place called Nurnberg where once long ago a raft of defeated German officers claimed only to be “following orders”. As I recall, they mostly hung by their necks until they were dead because “just following orders” doesn’t cut the mustard. Neither does “I’m only doing my job.” To hell with the lot of you. You took an oath and not five minutes into your first day you are already breaking it and violating the rights of others, all the while claiming to be serving those whom you beat, threaten, extort, defraud, frame, and murder. There is great hazard for you in this, and one day it will be visited upon you by your own hands when the American people decide that they have had quite enough of your service and protection.

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          TO ANOTHER WHO HIDES LIKE A COWARD WHILE ATTACKING COPS,

          ANY WHO SAY:

          “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD COP”

          IS A STUPID, UNINFORMED FOOL!

          • Mehrl Stull

            I agree with you Neil. BUT you let something happen to them and see who they call. I also could care less about what people think of me. I support the police. I STAND FOR THE STARS AND STRIPES !!!! And I don’t cow tow or bow down to the black belt keyboard warriors.

          • achim

            no good an honest person will become a cop! and if he or she does, give their notice to quit after 1 day!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I PITY YOU IN YOUR IGNORANCE.

      • Rogue Reflections

        Man…I wish I can triple-smack-like that quote!!

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        THIS 80 YR OLD AGNOSTIC ATHEIST ACTIVIST SEZ:
        ONE YEAR THERE WERE ONE MILLION POLICE CONTACTS WHICH RESULTED (I THINK ) IN LESS THAN 340 COMPLAINTS. AND, OF COURSE, NOT ALL OF THESE COMPLAINTS WERE PROVEN TO BE VALID. THE REAL PROBLEM IS OUR LEFTEST LYING LIBERAL LAME STREAM MEDIA. WHO OVER REPORTS THE BAD AND UNDER REPORTS, OR DOES NOT REPORT ALL THE GOOD.

        • Scott Downey

          340 complaints because the dead ones can’t complain. If anyone thinks he or she is a good cop, they are probably the worst cops. When you stand idly by as your coworkers commit crimes you aren’t a good cop, you’re an accomplice.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            DAMN ARE YOU STUPID! DEAD PEOPLE DO NOT FILE COMPLAINTS!

          • RL

            No but their FAMILIES do!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            TRUE. AND THEIR COMPLAINTS WOULD BE AMONG THEM FILED! SO THANKS RL

          • RL

            Not necessarily. The number 340 appears to be very low especially if the information came from LE. And you’re assuming the complaints were even filed. A complaint can be made but not officially filed. Keep believing the LEO’s are the good guys.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIND PROOF IT IS WRONG

          • Chumscrubber

            Okay imbecile: http://www.wsj.com/articles/fewer-complaints-filed-against-police-officers-but-review-is-mixed-1431652387

            “The Civilian Complaint Review Board said it received 4,788 complaints against New York Police Department officers in 2014, an 11% decrease from 2013.”

            NYPD alone averages about 6,000 complaints a year, so your “340” number is a ridiculous fucking lie – you must be a LEO.

            Furthermore: https://www.aclu.org/fighting-police-abuse-community-action-manual

            “Yet, only 30 percent of the people filed formal complaints. In other words, most instances of police abuse go unreported.”

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            SO?
            WHAT WAS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF POLICE CONTACTS IN A YEAR?
            WHAT PERCENT OF THE CONTACTS RESULTED IN A COMPLAINT?
            HOW DO THEY KNOW (-GET THE WORD “KNOW” ?-) ONLY 30 % ARE REPORTED
            DO THEY HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL?
            AS I WAS AN ALCOHOLIC FOR MANY YEARS, I HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN COLO.
            AND IN SOME SIX CALIF. CITIES. NOT ONCE SID I HAVE ANY VA;LID REASON TO REPORT A PLOICE OFFICER.
            AND I CONTINULLY SEE PEOPLE ON TV BITCHNG AND MOANING ABOUT THIS OR THAT WHEN ANY FAIR RATIONAL AND INTELLIGENT PERSON WATCHING THE SAME THING KNOW BITCHIN AND MOANING ABOUT THR POLICE CODUCT ARE SO FULL OF SHIT IT IS A WONDER THEY CAN STILL WADDLE!

          • Nobody

            Not only are your manners boorish, you don’t even have the sense to turn off your damned caps lock.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            WHILE THE FAIR, CARING, COMPASSIONATE, KIND, JUST AND INTELLIGENT ASK WHY I USE ALL CAPS, THE TRULY INTELLIGENT SIMPLY ACCEPT MY USE OF THEM..

          • Tom Lowe

            Not reading any more of your posts. You have nothing worthwhile to contribute here.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOUR IQ IS TOO LOW TO KNOW!

          • Chumscrubber

            You are so right! Every time I watch the video recording of Kelly Thomas being beaten to death, and I see and hear him ignorantly, unfairly, and irrationally “bitching and moaning” – “Help me” bla, bla, bla, “Daddy, they’re killing me”, bla, bla, bla, “God help me”, bla, bla, bla – what, like 31 fucking times? Jesus you whiny bitch, realize nobody gives a shit and shut the hell up & die already for the nice officers like a good citizen! (Sarcasm off).

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I HAVE NEVER SAID, NOR HAVE I EVER INFERED, THERE ARE NOT BAD COPS WHO DO TERRIBLE THINGS AND WHO SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW. MY POINT IS, MANY OVER EMPHISE THE NUMBER OF BAD COPS AND THE NUMBER OF BAD POLICE ACTS
            WHILE ANY ARE BAD, . ACTING LIKE THERE ARE MANY MORE OF THEM THAN THERE ACTUALLY ARE IS BOTH COUNTER PRODUCTIVE AND STUPID!
            IT SEEMS YOU MAY NEED TO TAKE A COURSE TO IMPROVE YOUR READING COMPRESSION SKILLS.

          • Chumscrubber

            Of course, you are absolutely correct. I’m going to get right on that “reading compression[sic]” course.
            In the mean time, if I may make a few benevolent suggestions (if you will):
            1. Google the difference between “implying” and “inferring” – yes, I am implying that you don’t know the difference, so you therefore, from my remark, may logically infer that I think you don’t know the difference.
            2. Acting like there are less of them than there actually are is both counter productive and stupid!
            3. Regarding your earlier comment, hint: I have found “proof that it is wrong”, and posted it above, Sparky ; )

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            Of course, you are absolutely correct. I’m going to get right on that “reading compression[sic]” course.

            FIRST, AS YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT I MEANT. I FULLY SATISFIED THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF LANGUAGE/

            SECOND, GOOD, YOU HAVE PROVEN YOU NEED IT

            In the mean time, if I may make a few benevolent suggestions (if you will):

            1. Google the difference between “implying” and “inferring” – yes, I am implying that you don’t know the difference, so you therefore, from my remark, may logically infer that I think you don’t know the difference.

            YOU WERE CORRECT AND I WAS IN ERROR. THANK YOU

            2. Acting like there are less of them than there actually are is both counter productive and stupid!

            NO ONE SAID, OR IMPLIED, IT WAS NOT.

            3. Regarding your earlier comment, hint: I have found “proof that it is wrong”, and posted it above, Sparky ;

            MY NAME IS NOT SPARKY

            AND I DOUBT YOU HAVE PROVEN ANY THING ELSE I SAID WAS EITHER LOGICALLY OR FACTUALLY WRONG.

          • Chumscrubber

            I feel I must first thank you for not only finding the caps lock key, but also for depressing it on numerous occasions throughout your comment.
            Second, no one said, or implied, that you hadn’t fully satisfied the primary purpose of language.
            Third, okay.
            Fourth, you are very welcome. If proper grammar and an extensive/comprehensive vocabulary were easy, everyone would be doing it, and we wouldn’t have to look at twisted, though delicious, images of kittens in Gestapo garb ; ).
            Fifth, there once was a straw man named “Semantics” . . .
            Sixth, you have been victimized by sarcasm, yet again. The first step is recognizing it; we’ve done that. The second step, is to figure out why you, have been pelted with sarcasm in this particular context . . .
            Seventh, do you mean “any thing else” besides the ridiculous complaint number I proved to be an attempt at willful deception? Quite frankly, taking the time to conjure up any further “proof” after that zinger, isn’t really in my best interests or yours.

            FYI, given that there are approx. 35,000 NYPD uniformed officers, if we assume one complaint per officer, per year, that would mean 17% of NYPD officers have complaints filed against them on average, every year. If we also assume that 70% of incidents of police abuse go unreported, then that would add another 20,000 “virtual” complaints to the tally, which would mean 74% of NYPD officers have “complaints filed against them” on average, every year. This is of course if we assign one actual or virtual complaint per officer, and of course, the 74% figure is on the high side in the context of actual incidents of police abuse involving NYPD officers due to the aforementioned assumptions. If we cut the figure in half, however, we are still left with the grossly unacceptable figure of 37% . . .

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            IMBECILE? I DOUBT YOU HAVE SUPERVISED 92 PEOPLE FOR NCR OR BEEN AN INDUSTRIAL ENGINEER FOR XEROX. AND THE ODDS OF YOUR MATCHING MY HIGH EFFECTIVE MENSA LEVEL IQ IS LESS THAN TWO PERCENT.

          • pyrodice

            giving the odds on people you know nothing about isn’t exactly Mensa-like.
            Why does it matter if he’s done something, to criticize it?
            Have you ever criticized this country’s enemies?
            Did you have to be one?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            IF YOU WERE MENSA LIKE, YOU WOULD KNOW SAYING “THE ODDS ARE” IS VERY MENSA LIKE WHEN COMPARED TO SAYING: “YOU ARE” OR “I AM”

          • pyrodice

            Um. No. You could at least try “probably”, to indicate probability ≥.95 if you’re so sure…

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THE MORE INTELIGENT AND LOGICAL KNOW IT IS NOT NECESSARY.

          • pyrodice

            The more intelligent and logical typically show an eloquence and tact that you sorely lack. They also recognize that you can’t simply decree something and expect it to be accepted, even in the face of “agree with me or I’ll declare you a dummy.”

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU CHILD, ARE A SELF ABSORBED, POMPOUS ARROGANT ASSHOLE WHO, MOST PROBABLY HAS NOT SERVED YOUR COUNTRY AS LONG AS I HAVE, NOT SAVED AS MANY LIVES, HAVE NOT DONE AS MUCH FOR THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF BLACKS, WOMEN AND ATHEISTS AS I HAVE, NOT KNOWN BY AS MANY (IF ANY) FOR BEING AS HONEST, TRUTHFUL OR AS HELPING AS I AM.

            SO YOU ASSHOLE PUNK COWARD, YOU CAN KISS MY PARATROOPER ASS!

          • pyrodice

            Can anyone who might be an ACTUAL Mensa member tally up the number of ridiculous fallacies here? I’ve lost interest.

            ” If you can not answer a man’s argument, all it not lost; you can still call him vile names.”

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIRST PISS FOR BRAINS,

            AS I STATED NO FALLACIES, YOU CAN QUOTE ANY

            SECOND RETARD,

            I HAVE NEVER SAID I WAS A MENSA MEMBER. I SAID MY TOP 2.3 PERCENT IQ COMBINED WITH THE FACT A PSYCHOLOGIST, WHO STUDIED AND DID RESEARCH ON INTELLIGENCE, DR CHARLES HEARN, AFTER GIVING ME A SERIES OF TESTS AND INTERVIEWS, INFORMED ME:

            I “WAS NOT ONLY A LOT SMARTER THAN I THOUGHT I WAS, I USED MY INTELLIGENCE NEARLY TWICE AS EFFECTIVELY AS MOST OTHERS USE THEIR INTELLIGENCE.”

            WHICH, OH SO ILLOGICAL ONE, MEANS THAT MY EFFECTIVE IQ IS MENSA LEVEL ONE..

            THIRD, YOU POMPOUS CONCEITED ARROGANT FOOL, I HAVE HAD A MENSA MEMBER INFORM ME I WAS BRILLIANT. AND PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD HAVE SENT ME TOTALLY

            UNSOLICITED PRAISE OF MY BLUNT HONESTY, USE OF LOGIC, INTELLIGENCE AND MY ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE MY VIEWS.

            YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER TYPICAL LOSER, WHO, DUE TO YOUR INABILITY TO PROVE ME EITHER LOGICALLY AND/OR FACTUALLY WRONG ATTACK ME.

            SO GO PLAY IN YOUR YARD WITH THE REST OF YOUR LOSER FIENDS.

          • pyrodice

            -that which has been asserted without evidence can be refuted without evidence
            -you’re attempting to substitute personal insults for persuasive argument. Sometimes that “rises” to the level of an ad-hominem… But it would have to include an attempt at saying my arguments are wrong BECAUSE *insert pedantic insult here*…
            You haven’t even done that. You HAVE, however, accused me of any number of egotistical things which you are CURRENTLY GUILTY OF. Sometimes known as “pot and kettle”, but in this case, it’s possibly more accurate to say “pot and MIRROR”.
            -you’ve made an appeal to false authority. Being a paratrooper doesn’t mean much, and those of us who use their veteran status as a trump card tend to be using it because they’ve got nothing better, or relevant. I spent 8 years in the military, and the average service member could fuck up painting a wall. I hear the standards have risen since you were in.

            You’re still just lying about shot and daring people to contradict you, so… You’re wrong. You’re wrong about everything you’ve claiming and assuming about me, you’re wrong for defending crooked cops, you’re wrong about your service time automatically making you a hero… You just did your fucking job. You got PAID to do that. It isn’t heroic, it’s your duty
            So in short, you said it best:
            You are just another loser, who, due to your inability to prove me either logically and/or factually wrong, have attacked me.

            Anything else you care to say, you’ll be yelling at the wall, because I don’t care to listen to the ravings of a moron, so I’ll be muting you.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            EAT SHIT YOU STUPID ASSHOLE FIRST, AS I NEVER DEFENDED ANY CROOKED COPS YOU PROVE THAT YOU NEED TO IMPROVE YOUR VERY POOR READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS

            SECOND, AS I HAVE NOT LIED ONE TIME ABOUT ANYTHING, YOU PROVE YOU ARE A TRUE LOSER AS:

            THOSE WHO ACCUSE AND/OR INFER OTHERS OF LYING WHEN THEY HAVE NO VALID REASON AND ZERO EVIDENCE, ( MUCH LESS ANY PROOF ) THEY ARE LYING, ONLY PROVE THEY ARE USING THEIR OWN NON-EXISTENT STANDARDS OF ETHICS, HONOR, INTEGRITY AND MORALS TO JUDGE OTHERS!

            THOSE WHO ACTUALLY HAVE ETHICS, HONOR, INTEGRITY AND MORALS NEVER ASSUME SOMEONE IS LYING WITHOUT SUFFICIENT CAUSE TO DO SO.

          • pyrodice

            waaah, waaah, waaah…
            You never had shit to say, you were just a hick idiot pretending to be a smart guy, and you were INEVITABLY going to get called out on that. This WHOLE FUCKING ARTICLE is about a cop being crooked, and you’re taking his side. You’ve got no leg to stand on, demanding that people produce evidence, and you’re unwilling and incapable of doing so, yourself. In short, fuck off.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU POOR BRAINLESS RETARD., YOUR COMMENTS PROVE YOU VERY BADLY NEED TO TAKE A COURSE WHICH TEACHES YOU READ WITH SUFFICE-NT COMPREHENSION AS THE ARTICLE IS FROM A COP WHO IS FED UP WITH THE LOSERS LIKE YOU TO CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND SHIT FOR BRAINS, THE POSITIONS I HELD IN THE MILITARY, AT XEROX , THE NATIONAL CASH REGISTER COMPANY, MAGANVOX AND TRW, AS WELL AS THE INTELLIGENCE TEST SCORES I RECEIVED IN THE MILITARY, COLLEGES AND OTHERS, PROVE I AM VERY INTELLIGENT. SO GO EAT YOUR SHIT FILLED BRAINS!

          • pyrodice

            I’m sure you did a marvelous job ensuring feces never clogged their plumbing.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            LOOK YOU IDIOT, I SUPERVISED 92 PEOPLE AND WHO WERE BUILDING THE LARGE MAIN FRAME COMPUTERS FOR N.C.R.. AND I WAS AN INDUSTRIAL ENGINEER FOR XEROX SUPPORTING THOSE BUILDING XEROX’S MAIN FRAME COMPUTERS. SO PISS OFF

          • pyrodice

            Yeah, right.
            If any of that is true, then I know exactly when Xerox began going downhill as a company.
            And no, I won’t piss off. I’m too busy pissing you off.
            Oh, but that’s right: you won’t answer this, because you said you wouldn’t, and you say you’re not a liar.

          • Chumscrubber

            Jesus, that dude really ranted all the hell over you! Maybe you should be flattered by the attention?
            Loved your comments about the military by the way (spot on).

          • pyrodice

            I’m almost positive he’s ACTUALLY David Mutchler.

          • Chumscrubber

            Now that is a frightening, yet likely prospect.

          • pyrodice

            Want a short-lived thrill? Stick his name into google. Holy shit.

          • Chumscrubber

            Yup, holy shit!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I KNOW YOU ARE A POMPOUS, ARROGANT, CONCEITED AND SUPERCILIOUS BUFFOON WHO IS A LOW LIFE NO ETHICS, NO HONOR, NO INTEGRITY AND NO MORALS LIAR!.

            YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT GOOD CHARACTER IS AS THOSE WHO HAVE GOOD CHARACTER NEVER ACCUSE.OR INFER SOMEONE IS LYING WHEN THEY NEITHER HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OR PROOF!

            THOSE WITH GOOD CHARACTER HAVE ETHICS. HONOR, INTEGRITY AND MORALS. WHICH CHILD, I HAVE ALL OF IN SPADES,

            THOSE WITH GOOD CHARACTER NEVER PHYSICALLY HURT ANOTHER WITHOUT A VALID REASON TO DO SO.

            HELPING OTHERS AS MUCH AS YOU CAN,

            BEING THE ONE IN FIVE WHO ALWAYS GOES TO THE AID OF OTHERS IN SPITE OF ANY DANGER INVOLVED. (WHICH I HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE 1945 WHEN I WAS IN FIFTH GRADE AND NOT INCLUDING THE LIVES I SAVED AS A LIFE GUARD, I HAVE DONE OVER 15 TIMES.)

            ALWAYS BEING HONEST AND TRUTHFUL. (-MANY WHO KNOW ME IN PERSON AND WELL,WILL ATTEST I AM ONE OF, IF NOT THE SINGLE MOST TRUTHFUL PERSON THEY KNOW.)

            ALWAYS WANTING TO AND IF POSSIBLE, ALWAYS IMPROVING WHAT YOU CAN.

            USING LOGIC AND THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD FOR GAINING KNOWLEDGE, USING COMMON SENSE AND CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS,

            NEVER EVER, DENYING ANY FACT ON ANY SUBJECT AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON

            BEING OPEN MINDED, KNOWING YOU CAN BE WRONG. NOT MINDING BEING PROVEN WRONG AND ALWAYS ADMITTING IF YOU ARE,

            AND IF REQUIRED, ALWAYS APOLOGIZING FOR ANY ERRORS YOU MAKE.

            SO PISS OFF YOU LOSER!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND FYI, I AM THE LIFEGUARD ON THE LEFT IN THE PICTURE TO THE LEFT. IT WAS TAKEN AT THE ATLANTIS HOTEL, 27TH & COLLINS, MIAMI BEACH. FL. 1957

          • pyrodice

            Sure thing, Mutchler.
            See you at the Klan rally.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I PITY ANYONE AS ILLOGICAL IRRATIONAL AND OF SUCH LOW INTELLIGENCE AS YOUR COMMENTS HAVE PROVEN YOU TO BE. AND, AS YOU LIE ABOUT OTHERS, IT IS OBVIOUS YOU ALSO LACK ETHICS, HONOR. INTEGRITY AND MORALS.

          • pyrodice

            The fact that you DARE accuse others of lying, given what you say about even just me shows how pathetic you are.

            And you’re free to put your nuts on the table, go take that mensa test, and post the results.
            You won’t, because you’re a poser, and a complete idiot.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIRST, ANY HONEST, LOGICAL INTELLIGENT, RATIONAL AND FAIR PERSON READING YOUR POSTS CAN EASILY SEE YOU HAVE LIED ABOUT ME. AND THEY CAN ALSO SEE WHAT I HAVE SAID ABOUT YOU, IS FROM YOUR COMMENTS, MOST PROBABLY TRUE.

            SECOND, WERE I AN IDIOT, MY NAME WOULD BE “pyrodice”

            THIRD, WERE I A LIAR, THE MANY, MANY WHO KNOW IN PERSON AND WELL, WOULD NOT ATTEST THAT I AM ONE OF, IF NOT THE SINGLE MOST TRUTHFUL PERSON THEY HAVE EVER MET.

            FORTH I DOUBT ANY HONEST PERSON WHO KNOWS YOU WELL WOULD ATTEST YOU ARE THE MOST TRUTHFUL PERSON THEY KNOW.

            LAST, I’LL WASTE NO MORE TIME ON MY INTELLECTUAL & MORAL INFERIORS LIKE YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY PROVEN YOURSELF TO BE.

          • pyrodice

            Oh, all the fallacies… Appeals to popularity, appeals to falsify authority, ad hominem attacks, straw men…

            You know what I DON’T see?
            Anything refuting any part of any argument that has happened since I ran into you. I think you’re completely incapable of it.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THANKS FOR ADMITTING YOU DO SOMETHING I WOULD NEVER DO AND THAT IS ATTEND A KLAN RALLY. AND ALSO THANKS FOR AGAIN PROVING YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE.

          • pyrodice

            I picked my words very carefully. Unfortunately, you lack the finesse to recognize any such thing. Not that I’m surprised. You keep falling backwards into tiger pits you’ve dug for others.

            They show up on the news, idiot. See ya there.

          • pyrodice

            In other words, you knew nothing then, you know nothing now, and you build a HUMONGOUS straw man to try and declare me wrong, like you’re a referee for life. I’ve got news for you: You’re not even the TURF in the game of life.
            And didn’t you promise not to respond to me anymore? lol. I knew you were a liar.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            NOT ONLY ARE YOU A LOW LIFE, STUPID, NO ETHICS, NO HONOR, NO INTEGRITY AND NO MORALS LIAR, YOU ARE SO STUPID, YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT A LIE IS. IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD KNOW I HAVE NOT LIED.

            YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO IS SO MENTALLY CHALLENGED, YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW STUPID YOU ARE.

            AND ASSHOLE, YOUR SUPPOSED HIGH IQ IS CONSTANTLY PROVEN TO BE OF NO USE AS INTELLIGENCE IS LIKE A MAN’S PENIS IN THAT IT IS NOT HOE MUCH YOU HAVE, RATHER HOW EFFECTIVELY IT IS USED.

            AND YOU KEEP PROVING HOW VERY INEFFECTIVELY YOU USE YOURS.

          • pyrodice

            “LAST, I’LL WASTE NO MORE TIME ON MY INTELLECTUAL & MORAL INFERIORS LIKE YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY PROVEN YOURSELF TO BE.”

            Hence, it’s proven, you’re a liar. QED.
            I’m using my intelligence quite effectively: I’m putting as little of it into wasted time with you as possible… Especially since everyone you’ve ever talked to hates you, and you were SO quick to make a big deal out of how easily you could be identified by your screenname, I wondered briefly if you were pretending to be that moron from the atheism forums, but, alas, your fist is rather easy to identify, as it your enormous and wholly undeserved ego, and grade-school attempts at argument which resemble nothing more than…

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AGAIN, PROVING YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHAT A LIE IS,

          • pyrodice

            No it’s patently obvious to everyone that you’re a lying little shit with severe mental defects. Hence, my only reply to you from this point out will be to continue to ridicule you until you learn the true meaning of shame, which I’m sure will be a labor, for someone as shameless as you.
            Fucking liar.

          • Chumscrubber

            Amen brother : ) One would think referencing, and providing links to, articles from reputable sources (which are adequately sourced as well) would typically ravage the “proved factually wrong” circle of any Venn diagram in this context . . . but, I suppose being burdened with approx. a 133 IQ (last time I checked on the internet for fun), my mind tends to wander often from this Orwellian “reality” to the sublime uncontrollably, and hence, my thoughts are certainly not to be relied upon ; )

          • Ann Droid

            Got real serious issues you pops.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND “OH SO SLOW ONE” I KNOW WHAT THEIR OWN WORDS INDICATE ABOUT THEM. THUS YOUR SAYING I “KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM” IS BOTH LOGICALLY AND FACTUALLY WRONG!

          • pyrodice

            Ah, it’s like watching a young child thinking he’s discovered some new trump card.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            COMMENTS FROM ANOTHER COWARD WHO HIDES BEHIND A SCREEN NAME. ONE WHOSE COMMENTS, CAUSES ME TO WONDER IF THEY REQUIRE HELP GETTING DRESSED, GOING POTTY AND FEEDING THEMSELVES..

          • pyrodice

            Tell me, why would anything I do be “cowardly”? Is there some reason I should feel threatened?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU USE A SCREEN NAME OR A NAME WHICH CERTAINY DOES NOT MAKE IT CLEAR, AS MINE DOES, WHO YOU ARE/ SO ATTACKING AND/OR INSULTING OTHERS IS COWARDLY.

          • pyrodice

            Actually, my screenname is perfectly identifiable as to who I am, but you’re not making a case for why you’d need to KNOW who I am.

          • grim3per

            YOUR PRETTY FULL YOURSELF AREN’T YOU? YOU REALLY FEEL THE NEED TO PROJECT YOUR “MENSA” IQ LIKE IT MEANS SOMETHING…..GOT NEWS FOR YOU BUBBA…..IT DON’T MEAN NOTHING, ZIP, NIL…..CALLING PEOPLE STUPID BECAUSE THEY DON’T AGREE WITH YOU NARROW SELF CENTERED VIEWS JUST SHOWS WHAT A SMALL ANGRY PERSON YOU ARE

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            LOOK YOU CLUELESS COWARD, I DO NOT CALL INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO SAY INTELLIGENT THINGS WHO DISAGREE WITH ME STUPID.

            YET WHEN PEOPLE POST THINGS WHICH ARE STUPID., I CALL THEM STUPID. YOU KNOW THOSE LIKE YOU WHO SAY I DO THINGS I DO NOT DO AND THOSE LIKE YOU WHO SAY THINGS ABOUT ME WHICH ARE FACTUALLY NOT TRUE.

            ANGRY? NO MORE THAN MOST.

            SMALL? AS I WAS COLLEGE FOOTBALL DEFENSIVE LINE MAN, A DEEP SEA DIVER WHOSE GEAR WEIGHS 194 POUNDS, PARATROOPER IN THE 101ST AIRBORNE AND A BOUNCER BOSS AT A LARGE LA NITE CLUB. YOU ARE FACTUALLY WRONG THERE AS WELL.

            LAST ASSHOLE, AFTER YOU HAVE WORKED TO ACHIEVE CIVIL RIGHTS FOR BLACKS, WOMAN AND ATHEISTS, AFTER YOU HAVE SAVED LIVES, AND AFTER YOU HAVE RISKED PHYSICAL INJURY AND DEATH FOR BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS AND AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, OVER 15 TIMES WHILE STOPPING ASSAULTS ON INNOCENT PEOPLE AS I HAVE, AND AFTER MANY WHO KNOW YOU IN PERSON AND WELL WILL ATTEST YOU ARE AN EXTREMELY TRUTHFUL PERSON AS MANY WILL FOR ME, THAN I MIGHT GIVE A RATS ASS WHAT SOME PUNK LIKE YOU THINKS ABOUT ME.

          • grim3per

            there’s a pill for those anger issues dude…..you should try one before you give yourself an aneurysm……anyways like i said b4, smell you l8r

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU grim3per, ARE JUST ANOTHER SAD COWARD WHO HIDES BEHIND A SCREEN NAME WHILE ATTACKING YOUR BETTERS.

          • grim3per

            who’s hiding…..if your so smart it’s not hard to find out who i am….and you started the attack. as to my better i doubt it, but then in what aspect? ….. you’ve got me on age and you’ve done a lot, so what, you also come across as a total asshole which i really don’t understand. we have a lot of the same views yet here we are arguing and demeaning each other…..just as society as a whole is programmed to do…. do you really deny that our system of law enforcement and justice has become corrupt? for that matter our entire system of governance. people are starting to wake up and are fighting back….you should stop attacking everyone and try to help

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU HAVE NO CLUE AND IT IS OBVIOUS YOU HAVE NOT READ ALL OF MY COMMENTS ON THE ISSUE. SO GO BOTHER SOMEONE ELSE

          • grim3per

            fyi i read enough of your tripe….aye aye capt fucktard…..cya wouldn’t want to be ya….smell you l8r

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU POOR RETARDED COWARD, WHO HIDES BEHIND A SCREEN NAME WHILE ATTACKING AND INSULTING YOUR MORAL AND INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORS, I HAVE DONE MORE GOOD AND I AM A BETTER PERSON THAN YOU ARE, OR WILL EVER BE! .

          • grim3per

            why do you feel the need so bad to be “better” than anyone else? we seem to keep coming back to that point, over and over it’s a recurring theme you keep raising. my iq is 160 but i don’t continually beat people over the head with it…..in fact i rarely bring it up at all…..the more you say it the smaller you become and the less weight your assertion of it carries…..pretty soon you’ll just be another Igli and disappear *pop* into the nothingness

          • grim3per
          • Ann Droid

            You have got serious issues.

          • Tom Lowe

            Over 1000 people shot dead by cops in 2015. You are WRONG.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FYI “OH SO ILLOGICAL ONE”, YOUR STATEMENT (IF TRUE) ONLY PROVES THAT OVER 1000 WERE SHOT,

          • Nobody

            You bet the 340 is low. There are more than that many complaints made against cops in any single borough of New York City in a year, much less the entire nation.

            The cited statistic is pure nonsense.

          • Tom Lowe

            Your figures are flat wrong, because we already have more than 1000 people shot dead by cops in 2015. Your 340 complaints fugure sounds more like one city PD in one year.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            WHERE YOU LOGICAL, YOU WOULD KNOW THE 1000 SHOT DEAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS.

          • Nobody

            Your post is responded to with intelligence and good manners, yet you choose to return the courtesy with THIS?

            Shame on you.

        • pyrodice

          wow, fewer complaints than killings.
          I wonder what that means?

      • IllaConsiderit

        (2) many of the laws are manifestly unjust, and some are even cruel and wicked. Our ignoring the the 4th, 5th, and 8th amendments to the the Constitution in the name of the drug war, now has us heading down the path to a race war. It does amaze me how many on the right, make the claim of being “strict constitutionalists” on social networks, but bring up this issue and they just stick their head the sand. I do hope this doesn’t end up being this countries downfall!!! I do think there are good cops, I also think they can choose to understand that “I was just following orders” is NOT an excuse for violating people’s rights. I hope they start thinking more along these lines, so things can get better not worse!!! The media I feel also fans the flames for the sake of “newsmake”. I saw and captured it on FOX video coverage I watched on Youtube. Here I added a link to that capture I have posted on Pinterest > https://www.pinterest.com/EUROLANDING/fanning-the-flames-of-war/

        • Nobody

          “I do think there are good cops, I also think they can choose to understand that “I was just following orders” is NOT an excuse for violating people’s rights.”

          I must conclude, then, that either you have not been paying attention or this is some sort of joke.

          • IllaConsiderit

            Unlike yourself, I do not find myself with any sense of “strong feel of need” or somehow, binding obligation (with myself) to produce and/or post and/or or/ more or less nothing, anything for anyone, NOTHING to nobody! I owe nobody any document of,or documentation of that not only whether there, has, has not, will, will not, be, be not, drafted or done. I shall however provide you a gentlemanly well we’ll see and a toodle loo…

          • Nobody

            Could you possibly translate that into English? I can make no sense of what it is you have written. As I recall, the issue was that of whether there is such at thing as a “good cop”. I suppose the answer turns on the precise definition of the term. If it is defined as one who does as he is ordered, then I would have to concede your point. However, if a “good cop” is one who aids in the guaranty and protection of the rights of all men, then I maintain that such do not exist today precisely because they themselves violate the rights of their fellows, if in no other way but that they enforce unjust, immoral, and therefore invalid laws.

            What say you?

          • IllaConsiderit

            1) I can translate what is in English only to those whom understand it. 🙂

            2) If a “good cop” is one who aids in the guarantee and protection of the rights of all men, then I maintain that such DO EXIST.

            3) I have (my entire life) opposed our nations unconstitutional war on drugs and know this to be the cause for the high level of racial tensions in our nation currently.

            This article below proves me correct on both points…
            Can you possibly not concede that it took “good cops” to “aid in and guarantee the protection of the rights of all men” here, and at great risk to themselves in a hostile environment to bring this to light?

            http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/12/01/leaked-documents-reveal-dothan-police-department-planted-drugs-on-young-black-men-for-years-district-attorney-doug-valeska-complicit/

          • Nobody

            “…those WHOM understand it.”

            Seems perhaps that you do not… enough. “Whom” is NOT the proper form for the sentence in question. And before you try to deflect by calling me a grammar NAZI, recall that you were the one who brought this into a context of proper language skills while in the process showing a poor example of same.

            That all aside, the post to which all this refers is still gibberish.

          • IllaConsiderit

            WHOM?

          • IllaConsiderit

            Who’s on first, whom is not playing today.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            HEY NOBODY, WHO HIDES LIKE A COWARD BEHIND A SCREEN NAME, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU RISKED PHYSICAL INJURY AND EVEN DEATH TO GO TO THE AID OF OTHERS? EVER? SO FAR, I HAVE DONE SO OVER TEN TIMES. THE LAST TIME I CHASED A MUGGER OUT THE DOOR OF THE HOTEL WHERE I LIVE ACROSS A MAIN STREET AND INTO AN ALLEY AROUND 12:30 PM, WAS THREE YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS ONLY 79.

          • Mehrl Stull

            I love the “ when I was only 79”. One million upvotes for you young man👍

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THANK YOU! BE 83 ON 12-26. AND WHILE I AM SLOW, IF REQUIRED, I WILL STILL BE DOING WHAT I CAN TO HELP OTHERS.

          • Lee-C.

            To answer your question about how many times I’ve risked injury or death to go to the aid of others….many times. During my time as a soldier then during my time as a firefighter. 10 times? That’s cute. You’re bringing nothing meaningful to the table and attacking anyone who disagrees with you. if you want to try to educate others in your way of thinking, attacking them (especially on their own platform) is not the way to do it.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THOSE DO NOT COIUNT AS THEY ARE PART OF THE JOB!!,

            AND FYI, CHILD, AS THE TRULY RATIONAL, LOGICAL AND INTELLIGENT KNOW, I DO NOT ATTACK ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME, ONLY THOSE WHO LIE AND/OR THOSE WHO DENY FACTS

          • Ann Droid

            Denies the facts? Are you suggesting you know absolutely everything? Even someone as omnipotent as yourself gets things wrong surely?

            I’m sure you are in possession of every fact there is too know, after all how can it be a fact if you don’t agree with it?

            Nanoo nanoo, Mork calling Orson – come in Orson.

          • Ann Droid

            You asked how many times he had risked his life then when he responds you say they don’t count as they are part of the job. Is that not still risking his life? Of course it is. You are just a worn out old troll.

            It must be so awesome being you. Your life and intellect is so awesome you have to come on a website where no one agrees with you and start calling them all names and telling them how superior in every way you are. I’m sure all these people would love to be you and have this exciting and courageous Hollywood inspired lifestyle. You must be living the ameikan dream. Here, have some cool aid dude.

            Pass the popcorn, I love sideshow Bobs such as you.

          • Lee-C.

            They don’t count because they’re part of the job, huh? Wow. You really are just a crazy old bastard. Ok, kiddos, I’m done with this troll. Have at him.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND CHILD, AN FYI FOR YOU. HISTORY HAS PROVEN, FOUR IN A ROW STARTING IN THE 1960’S, (-AS WELL AS BEFORE.-) THE FASTEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET THE DESIRED CHANGE SOUGHT, IS CONFRONTING THEIR OPPRESSORS.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            MOST COPS ARE GOOD, SOME ARE NOT!

          • pyrodice

            THEN MOST COPS SHOULD HAVE NO TROUBLE RIDDING THE FORCE OF THE BAD ONES

          • IllaConsiderit

            More than not, likely anyway, I hope so! One point made here and it needs to be addressed as it has played a major role in dividing our communities. Sworn to uphold the Constitution, serve and protect the community many cops have made bad choices and violated that oath in the name of the drug war. http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-180.html This now seems to be evolving into a civil/race war. Both sides refusing to come to the table admit their wrongs and move forward in an honest positive fashion, instead blindly justify their own actions and continue taking the rest of us down the path of division and ultimately and in the end sadly the downfall of this great nation! “Together we stand, divided we fall” these words have never wrung more true than they do in our nations history than they do today, at least not in my lifetime! Thank you Sir, for your service and sacrifice to the nation and your community!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. . TODAY, THE PEOPLE I SPEND THE MOST TIME WITH AND ON A DAILY BASIS, ARE BLACKS, I HAVE RISKED INJURY AND DEATH FOR BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS AND TO PROTECT A BLACK LADY FROM HE VIOLENT BLACK GANG MEMBER BOY FRIEND, (WHO, I LEARNED YESTERDAY, IS IN JAIL FOR AMONG OTHER THINGS, ARMED ROBBERY.) SO ANYONE WHO SAYS I AN A RACIST IS A TOTAL IDIOT.

            THE ABOVE SAID, AS ANYONE WHO WATCHES THE NEWS KNOWS, BY VERY FAR, ON A PERCENT OF POPULATION, BLACKS COMMIT MANY TIMES MORE CRIMES THAN WHITES DO. IN GENERAL BLACKS (-AND MANY IDIOT WHITE LIBERALS -) SIMPLY DENY THE FACTS WHICH PROVE A BLACK AND NOT THE COP OR THE “DO-GOODER”, (-ZIMMERMAN-) WHERE THE BAD GUYS.

            THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO ACTUALLY LEARN THE FACTS AND WHO IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO FULLY COMPREHEND THEM KNOW THAT TRAYVON MARTIN AND MICHAEL BROWN BOTH GOT EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVED.

          • IllaConsiderit

            TRAYDE MARKINGSON

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I AM SORRY, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NAME YOU REPLIED WITH MEANS. SO PLEASE EXPLAIN. THANK YOU

          • IllaConsiderit

            The parents have been milking that kids name for every dime they can squeeze out of it. They registered the terms/slogans “I am Trayvon” and “justice for Trayvon” with the U.S Patent & Trademark office within a month after his being shot. Here > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/trayvon-martin-trademarks-769123
            Which is how I came up with the name. Trade Marking-son
            One commenter put it this way “nothing can make up for the loss of my son, but I’ll give it a try anyway! Select “oldest” from the comments section > options (drop down) menu at the end/bottom of the linked article and it will order them so as you get them in order of oldest comments first and you will see the comment.
            That, as if not, in poor taste and bad enough already if you ask me, there’s more…
            Go to the T.M foundation and you will notice the $20 for T.M solicitation which reads
            “February 5th was Trayvon’s 20th birthday. $20 for 20th”!
            link here > http://www.trayvonmartinfoundation.org/donations/
            In just 2 MORE DAYS Trayvon will $21 one dollar years old. This according to his Trayde’s parents or prize claimants, if you like (I do) the Milking-sons!
            Low (as you can go) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81d665178b922b7bdabaf8b733beba5989acf266731a694ff7af530f242fdc25.png and behold. The foundation, out of the generosity is giving away a free T.M t-shirts, Again these are FREE. Donations are $50 and not free if you’d like to receive one!!! Shall we wager on FREE shipping, (I haven’t checked that yet) the FREE shipping donation minimum? Or whether those lucky enough to receive this great gift, if FREE shipping is “involved’ is it more or less than to have it shipped through U.S.P.S, U.P.S OR FED-EX, themselves? 🙂

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            JUST FOUND THIS HE IS A BLACK GUY WHO TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT MANY BLACKS

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk2SKIX66h8

          • Mozart

            Caps Lock doesn’t make your pithy argument more believable…

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            ONLY IDIOTS WOULD THINK THEY DID, YOU AN IDIOT? OR, DO YOU JUST POST LIKE ONE?

          • Mozart

            Hey – YOU’RE the idiot who supports a criminal like Dave Mutchler…

          • IllaConsiderit

            THREE YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS ONLY 79. could be a hint to why he uses ALL CAPS.

          • Mehrl Stull

            He can’t read it because of the small type.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            NO ONE SAID IT DID! DUH!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I SURE AGREE WITH YOU. 🙂

          • IllaConsiderit

            Thank for your honesty, Sir!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

            IN AROUND 1964, A FRIEND AND NCR CO-WORKER INFORMED ME HE WAS GOING GIVE ME THE NICK NAME OF “NASTY NEIL”. WHEN I ASKED WHY. JOHN REPLIED:

            “BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS TELLING THE TRUTH AND MANY FIND THE TRUTH TO BE NASTY.”

            UP UNTIL THEN, I HAD NOT EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT MY BEING MUCH MORE TRUTHFUL THAN ARE MOST. SINCE THEN, I HAVE PRIDED MYSELF ON MY BEING AN EXTREMELY TRUTHFUL PERSON. AND I PUT EFFORT INTO ASSURING I DO NOT LIE/

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND I AM GLAD TO SAY MANY OF THOSE WHO KNOW IN PERSON AND WELL. WILL ATTEST THAT THEY CONSIDER ME TO BE ONE OF, IF NOT THE SINGLE MOST TRUTHFUL PERSON THEY KNOW. (SOME HAVE KNOWN ME SINCE 1950.)

          • pyrodice
          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIRST, “OH SO ILLOGICAL IRRATIONAL AND STUPID ONE,” SOME INTERNET WEBSITES ARE NOT “EVER WHERE”

            SECOND, “OH SO REALLY UNINFORMED ONE” ANY TRULY KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON KNOWS TRUTH TELLERS ARE NORMALLY DISLIKED BY THE MASSES BECAUSE THE MASSES, WHO ARE JUST LIKE YOU, ARE ILLOGICAL UNINFORMED, IRRATIONAL AND NOT OVERLY INTELLIGENT.

          • pyrodice

            call me when you’re done with a worthless character assassination. Better yet, don’t. The rest will be worthless, too.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU SHOULD SURE NOW WHAT WORTHLESS IS AS YOU SEE A WORTHLESS PERSON LOOKING BACK AT YOU EVERY TIME YOU LOOK IN A MIRROR.

          • pyrodice

            not really, but I do see a worthless person every time one of your comments pops up in the block. Frankly, you should allowe me money for the amount of time I’ve wasted looking at this bullshit

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU FUNNY, THE ODDS YOU HAVE DONE AS MUCH FOR THE USA AND FOR OTHERS AS I HAVE ARE ABOUT ZERO!

          • pyrodice

            WHAT have you done except drain productive people’s wallets?

            Here’s a quandary for you (that means a puzzle or riddle): I served the military for 8 years. According to ME, that means almost jack-shit nothing… but according to YOU, that means I’ve accomplished a lot with my life.
            So which of us is right?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU ARE NOT WORTH MY WASTING MORE TIME ON AS YOU ARE TOO DENSE FOR ME TO BOTHER WITH,

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            pyrodice, I PITY YOU AS IT IS OBVIOUS YOU ARE A MENTAL MIDGET WHO SEEMS TO NOT UNDERSTAND THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SIDE. AND I KNOW RATIONAL, LOGICAL, INFORMED AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, AFTER HEARING THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE LOSERS, FULLY UNDRSTOOD MY SIDE AND THEY AGREED WITH ME.

          • pyrodice

            None of that actually happened. Tell yourself whatever you have to though, I guess.
            honestly, anybody who can’t come up with anything better than an appeal to popularity can be safely ignord.

            especially when it took you like two years to come up with it. What were you in for? Advanced public nudity? soliciting minors for heroin mules?

          • Doug Arnison

            Rational, logical, informed and intelligent people don’t need to put down or insult people just because they have a difference of opinions. Nor do they need to boast about IQ levels on social media. Usually means they wish they had a higher IQ. Right Neil?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            WRONG! FIRST, IF YOU HAD A CLUE, YOU WOULD KNOW, THAT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I DID NOT PUT ANYONE DOWN OVER MERE OPINION, THOSE I PUT DOWN ARE THE LOSERS WHO DENY FACTS WHICH PROVE THEY ARE WRONG AS WELL AS THOSE WHO LIE ABOUT TRUMP.

            SECOND, THE FACTS LIKE MY MANAGEMENT POSITIONS AT NCR, TRW, MY BEING EMPLOYED AS AN INDUSTRIAL ENGINEER FOR XEROX, MY MILITARY INTELLIGENCE TEST SCORES, OTHER IQ TEST SCORES, MY ACING LOGIC TESTS, ALL PROVE MY INTELLIGENCE.

            THIRD, MY ACTIONS PROVE THAT RATIONAL, LOGICAL, INFORMED AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WILL PUT THOSE DOWN WHO DAMN WELL DESERVE TO BE PUT DOWN, SO YOU ARE WRONG ON THAT AS WELL.

            LAST HYPOCRITE, THE ODDS ARE YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF TO BE RATIONAL, LOGICAL, INFORMED AND INTELLIGENT. YET YOU FEEBLY ATTEMPT TO PUT ME DOWN,

          • pyrodice

            It was so cathartic finally knowing how the report and block feature works now, I don’t know if they had internet last time he showed up, but it was long overdue

          • IllaConsiderit

            From here on I WILL BE MAKING MY REPLIES IN HI-CAPS OUT OF RESPECT TO YOU SIR! I NOTICE FROM ONE OF YOUR REPLIES TO SOMEONE ELSE YOU WERE 79 THREE YEARS AGO! MEANING YOU ARE 82 YEARS YOUNG AT THIS POINT BUT THE low CAP LETTERS ARE BECOME A BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE AND READ, I’M 50, TURNED 50 JUST YESTERDAY AND LAST YEAR I HAD TO GET MY FIRST PAIR OF READING GLASSES LAST YEAR… SUCH A YOUNG AGE TOO BE NEEDED GLASSES 🙂

            IN REPLY NOW TO YOURS, I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND THAT STARTS WITH BEING HONEST WITH MYSELF!!! THIS IS HOW I AVOID GETTING CAUGHT UP IN DOUBLE-STANDARDS, AS THEY ALWAYS STEM FROM DISHONESTY WITH OURSELVES! I ALSO REFUSE TO TOLERATE DISHONESTY AND DOUBLE-STANDARDS FROM PEOPLE AND THEY LEARN THAT PRETTY QUICK! I DO NOT NEED OR WILL I HAVE PEOPLE AROUND ME IF THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTWORTHY! I’VE GOTTEN TO LIKE SPENDING MORE OF MY TIME ALONE, ANYWAY 🙂
            HOPE THE HI-CAPS WERE HELPFUL,
            I UNDERSTAND 🙂

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THANK YOU. I AM SO SORRY I DID NOT SEE YOUR REPLY UNTIL NOW. WE CERTAINLY AGREE ABOUT TRUTH AND HONESTY. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CARE TO TWEET ME. THANKS!!

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          YOU ARE SO CORRECT.

      • tufflove

        if a cop looks the other way for a bad cop that makes him a bad cop. cops are on the low end of people who put their life on the line everyday, the people who work on your roof have a far greater chance of dying than a cop and he isn’t given carte blanche to kill people, or if someone pisses a doctor or nurse off they don’t have the right to kill them with a lethal dose of a shot “we feared for our lives while he was handcuffed to the bed because he refused to pay his bill. unreal.

    • M T

      Best statement I’ve seen to this nonsensical “open letter” yet.

    • ToddLG

      Agree !

    • Fed up Citizen

      RL, The problem here, is everyone is generalizing. This officer did not generalize. His statements were logical and true. People have race baited. About half of the incidents we hear about on the news have been flamed and nobody paid any attention, nor mentioned the details behind the shootings. The other half, are indeed wrong doings by police. It has nothing to do with police training, it has to do with the individual who uses that training. There is no easy answer to this, because on one hand, we can’t expect the police to stop using force…criminals would walk all over them, as seen in cities already. Criminals are taking advantage on of the police, because now police are scared to act in some of these cities. So now, murders that could have been prevented, break-ins that could have been prevented, are now being ignored by the police for fear of what the media will do with their actions. On the other hand, there are police who abuse their power and do exactly what the media has accused them of doing. We CAN NOT sit here and generalize, because through generalizing, innocent people are being neglected by a police force that is too scared to act. Everyone is part of the problem. The criminals who abuse the media situation by falsely accusing police, the police who abuse their power and the media who only wants the public to hear one side of the story. What we have here is, a huge mess all the way around.

      • Victoria Thorne

        some of it IS ACTUALLY training– EVERY police officer hopefull should learn LAW and not just state law as most of that is actually illegal but the United States Constitution—- then i beleive they can better serve as peacekeepers ( i hate to use the word police–as it is too close to “polic..y enforcers) lol however if they learned what the policy they are being trained to enforce is a very far cry from the actual law of the land— they may not want to become police afterall— I DO HOWEVER see a revolution of types coming where “police” conduct and policy of such will be forced to change nationwide and it is my hope that it makes those who actually want to be protectors and not what we have been seeing as of late

        • Fed up Citizen

          What you describe would take something close to an education in law…which I don’t see many people going through that kind of trouble to become police. They would be able to make a better living at being an attorney with that kind of an education. So even then, I don’t see an easy solution. A solution is needed, I can’t argue that…but what solution is needed will be the one million dollar question.

          • Kristof Kelson

            make each “policy enforcer” carry their own insurance policy. the “bad cops” will be filtered out when their insurance company drops them or their rates skyrocket for too many occurrences. this would put a stop or at least a huge dent in the amount of officer misconduct

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

        • fisharmor .

          Yeah good luck with that revolution. Keep reading. Look at old cop stories too. When you read those old stories, plug in what you know about cops today. When you do that you see that they have never been any different.
          Remember Freddie Gray and his “nickel ride”? Think about that for a second… it’s called a nickel ride because there were amusement park rides that cost a nickel. So how long ago was that police tactic named……..?

      • RL

        I do not believe police are too scared to act. Murders being prevented? Like the cop that just shot his ex-wife to death while the other officers watched or did not try to stop him? Then tried to console him after he committed a cold blooded murder. Break-ins being prevented? Police usually show up after the crime has been committed, then gather evidence and send it off to forensics, unless a citizen reports it first. Then there is a chance of catching the burglar red handed. Criminals are taking advantage of police-the police are armed to the teeth and have proven on more than one occasion that they are not afraid of using their weapons on people and not in just one area but all over country. An occasional occurance is one thing, routinely using violence and force is something different, especially on small infractions. No one should ever have to worry if they are stopped for speeding that maybe this cop will shoot them over something so small as a ticket. Race baiting-divide and conquer technique. Who would use this technique? Media, police, politicians, racists (whoever they may be), lawyers, people looking to make names for themselves on national media, and people who act as victims even when they played a role in the reason the police were called. I don’t play into the race baiting scenario this officer talks about. It’s bs; an excuse for HIM to justify his actions or inaction. I do not see this as a race issue, and many will disagree, but more of a police brutality issue against the citizens. This ‘open letter’ from Mr. Munchler is a direct threat to anyone and everyone. He’s also giving an insight as to the way some officers feel and what they are prepared to do in order to keep their ‘power and control’ over citizens. This is the exact reason he and others like him should be removed from law enforcement.

      • TheKaisho42

        The problem with your argument is that the police are to serve the community…ALL of the community, not just the parts the police like or feel are beneficial them.

        Cops are not Judge, Jury and Executioners. They have, as a general whole, gotten more militarized in terms of tactics, equipment and their use and increasingly, use their military tactics and equipment against a civilian population at the same time Violent Crime Rates, in the aggregate, have fallen precipitously in the past 20 years.

        The good cops are the one who realize this and aid their communities. The bad cops are guys like this one, who think that they ARE the embodiment of the Law, ergo, ABOVE the Law.

        This man’s hubris is beyond the pale. If I was his boss, I would have fired him for writing this right after he pushed “Enter” and I would make sure he is never given a gun, badge or any authority over people again.

        • Fed up Citizen

          Trust me, I know that there are some police out there who abuse their power. In my first reply I actually touched base on that, to assure people that I am not blind to the illegal actions police make. The problem is, we also have a lot of people who are generalizing. Not all police are like that. Just like not all shootings by police are unjustified. People are generalizing like it’s going out of style, and I am not the least bit surprised due to the way the media handles these stories.

          I am not a left or a right, I am somewhere in between. So I feel that I am not biased one way or the other, because I see the injustice on all sides. As far as what the police officer wrote, I believe he was speaking on behalf of the police officers who actually are good men and women. I seriously doubt he was speaking on behalf of any officer who abuses their power.

          Perhaps a good way to provide a solution to the problem, is to create a police force, who actively patrol and uphold the law that is applied to the police. It’s not like the police aren’t trying to come up with ways to ensure their officers obey the law, more and more officers across the United States are now being made to wear shoulder cams. If you ask me, that is a good start.

          I believe we will see change, it will obviously take time, but change is already happening. It may not be exactly what the people want, and I’m sure it’s not what a crooked police officer wants, but I’m sure, given enough time, it will be satisfactory to the citizens. Let’s hope.

          I just want to see the needless and unjustified violence end. Do I think every situation was unjust? No, I believe there were a few situations where the shootings were justified, But there are also plenty of shootings that were completely uncalled for and floored me when I saw them.

          • Debbie Knight

            The generalization of the police as more bad than good has some evidence to back it up: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/baltimore-joe-crystal_n_7582374.html

          • Fed up Citizen

            Huffington Post is a known satirical website. It’s hard to say if what they print is decieving or truth. So I never use them as any source of evidence. Having said that, for every mention you can make of an officer abusing their power, you can also find a mention of an officer going above and beyond his duties and placing himself in harms way to save another life. I am not here to stick up for crooked cops…trust me, I don’t like them any more than you do, but I won’t sit here and allow my emotions to cloud my judgment toward the good cops out there either.

          • Debbie Knight

            It’s easy to search “Joe Crystal Baltimore” and find the situation is being accurately reported by the link I provided. There is a culture problem when good cops are forced out and bad cops protected. That is happening. There is no excuse. Then we have statements like this from police organizations: https://www.scribd.com/doc/269143323/Press-Release-River-City-FOP-Lodge-614

            Has a threatening tone with the use of vague words like “demonize” and “verbal assaults” and “we will call you out.” What does that mean to be called out by the police?

            One more thing: the point at hand is not about the fact that there are Joe Crystals (i.e., good cops) on the force, it is about the police gang-like culture that punishes good cops if they report the truth. Over time that leaves us with a lot of bad cops and only a few good ones who have learned to keep quiet.

          • Michelle Lee

            Lol. Huffington Post is most definitely NOT a satirical website. It is a legitimate new source.

          • whaddacrock

            hehehehehehehehehe!!!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            LIGITIMATE? MAYBE FOR THE CLUELESS CLODS OF THE LOONY LEFT.

          • Michelle Lee

            First, it’s spelled l-e-g-i-t-i-m-a-t-e. Second, why yell or is your caps lock stuck? You seem pretty hostile. I suggest you move away from the keyboard for awhile and calm down. Try some deep breaths. Have a nice life.

          • Mozart

            Be careful, Michelle! You’re messing with a self-confessed Mensa Mind there!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            MENSA LEVEL WOULD BE MORE CORRECT/

          • Michelle Lee

            I’m just waiting for him to give himself a heart attack or some sort of stroke with all that yelling.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIRST, TRULY RATIONAL, LOGICAL AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIKE FAMED AUTHOR LEON URIS, (-AUTHOR OF EXODUS, TOPEZ PLUS OTHERS-) KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE FUNCTION OF LANGUAGE., THE PRIMARY PURPOSE, IS SIMPLY TO COMMUNICATE A DESIRED MESSAGE FROM ONE, TO ONE, OR MORE OTHERS.

            IF THIS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED, THEN SUCH THINGS AS INCORRECT PUNCTUATION, GRAMMAR, SPELLING, ETC. ARE THINGS WHICH ONLY THE ILLOGICAL AND IRRATIONAL ANAL RETENTIVE NIT PICKERS OF THE WORLD WORRY ABOUT.

            SECOND, WHILE THE FAIR, CARING, COMPASSIONATE, KIND, JUST AND INTELLIGENT ASK WHY I USE ALL CAPS, THE TRULY INTELLIGENT SIMPLY ACCEPT MY USE OF THEM..

            THIRD, I USE “ALL CAPS” AS I AM EIGHTY ONE (81) SO I CAN SEE WHAT I AM WRITING MUCH MORE EASILY. PLUS, WRITING REQUIRES BOTH MORE TIME AND CARE THAN READING WHAT OTHERS HAVE WRITTEN

            FORTH, NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO READ ONE WORD OF MY ALL CAPS POST

            FIFTH, AS I HAVE FOUND ALL CAPS TEND TO PISS OFF THE LESS INTELLIGENT, THE ILLOGICAL, THE IRRATIONAL AND THE POLITICALLY CORRECT, I LIKE THEM!

            SIXTH, THE LESS RATIONAL AND LESS INTELLIGENT ARE TOO ILLOGICAL TO COMPREHEND THE USE OF ALL CAPS DOES NOT NEGATE THE VALUE OF MY COMMENTS AND ANY INFORMATION I PROVIDE,

            SEVENTH, I REALLY DO NOT CARE IF THEY LIKE MY USE OF ALL CAPS OR NOT AS IT IS OBVIOUS THEY ARE MENTAL MIDGETS.

            LAST, WHILE YOUR SENDING MONEY WOULD MAKE MY LIFE BETTER, FEW HAVE HAD A LIFE AS FILLED WITH AS MANY EXCITING EXPERIENCES, AS MUCH
            TRAVEL, SAVING LIVES., STOPPING CRIMES (NOT PAID TO DO SO) BEDDING
            AS MANY LADIES OR DOING AS MUCH GOOD AS I HAVE.

          • Michelle Lee

            The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I JUST PROVED YOUR COMMENT ABOUT A MISSPELLED WORD WAS ILLOGICAL.

            LIVE WITH IT

          • Anthony Hobbs

            You’re confusing Huffington Post with Huffpost Satire.

          • Fed up Citizen

            Ahhhh….you know what, you’re right. That’s exactly what I was confusing it with. Good call, my man. I stand corrected.

          • Fed up Citizen

            Actually, come to find out, they are both owned by the same organization. As far as I am concerned, they are both satirical.

          • RL

            Some points you debate are valid but I can’t agree with other points. Most of this attitude some police have has been encouraged and facilitated by politicians, namely Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. They passed laws and policy for the police to become so empowered, insulating them from any consequences for any of their actions. At first, the commanders did not use the new laws, claiming they didn’t need it. They were right. However, as time went on, the new generations of police wanted more toys (military), more power, more enforcement policies, etc. until what we have today. We the people have been complacent in allowing these things to happen. After doing some research, I believe if we revisit some of the old laws and revise, reform, and/or abolish parts of them, I think we can have a happy medium. But the government has turned everything they touch into a business. Does anyone think the politicians are going to stop accepting kickback $$$$ that come on the backs of others (slave labor)? I don’t think so. We can’t address the police issue until we address the corruption within the political system who allows these things to happen for the benefit of no one but politicians. But when an otherwise good officer stands idlely by and watches another officer murder, they are just as guilty. Just as the law punishes anyone for being at a crime even if they didn’t know what was happening, they are given a sentence as if they were the ones that committed the crime. So should it be for police. If there are laws against gangs, then the police should be included in that definition. Politicians and police have demonized anyone they want, verbally assaulting people, stolen their property with no charges, etc . There are people who join to do good, but we the people should demand a stricter method of employment for police. If someone is looking for a career in LE, there should be more classes and training (not just going to the range and target practice or just self defense classes) before they are allowed to be in the public, not just 6 months. We need adjustment from the top down. This is where it began.

          • whaddacrock

            LOL!!! huffpo as a credible source!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!

          • Debbie Knight

            There are numerous sources for this story. It is well documented. But please disregard evidence at your pleasure. This is America and you’re free to stay ignorant.

          • Anthony Hobbs

            Well done. You just committed the “genetic” logical fallacy.

          • Fed up Citizen

            That’s funny…blacks get that same generalization from almost all directions…yet we all know this is improper thinking and we all know that generalizing blacks is a huge no-no…yet it’s okay to do this with the police? Get the F outta here with that crap…

          • Debbie Knight

            False equivalency. The article presents information that large groups of police officers hide/disregard evidence of wrong-doing by those in their ranks and punish those who refuse to go along with the brutality. Argue against the actual issue instead of finding ways to join the apologists for police brutality.

          • Fed up Citizen

            Spoken like a true liberal. You make your liberal people proud, I’m sure.

          • Debbie Knight

            You speak like someone without a rational argument.

          • Fed up Citizen

            No, I speak like somebody who has grown tired of these endless debates. I speak like somebody who has not been swayed by the political agendas or monetary greed of the media. How can I have an actual discussion with somebody who fails to see the equivalence of my earlier statement when you would rather bury your head in the sand, pretend like my statement holds no water, just because you say it doesn’t, when it did indeed pertain to the discussion and had absolute validity and logic. If you want to stand by and treat officers as the criminals and treat the criminals as angels, then by all means, you go right ahead. However…do us all a favor and next time you feel the need to call 911 for officer assistance…especially one where an officer must place his life in danger…don’t call. Deal with your own problems and take responsibility for your own actions instead of letting a police officer take that risk. I live in Louisville, and I support the police here and I support the shooting that took place here when that officer killed a man who was swinging a flag pole at him. Now, if this was about that little boy who was shot and killed for having a toy gun, or a man who was shot while grabbing for his license, then we would have some common ground here. However, when you want to demonize police for doing what they needed to do, when being attacked by a criminal…well, you are going to catch nothing but the worst part of me if you honestly think you can sit there and have a rational argument to support your cause. Hate to break it to ya there, snowflake…it’s not gonna happen.

          • Debbie Knight

            Rational arguments don’t include straw men such as, “If you want to stand by and treat officers as the criminals and treat the criminals as angels…” And rational arguments also don’t include childish admonitions to not call the police in an emergency.

            You would do well to educate yourself on this topic. Here’s something to start with: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2014/07/02/seven-reasons-police-brutality-is-systematic-not-anecdotal/

          • Fed up Citizen

            Okay, sweet heart…whatever you say. You can rationalize your opinion until you are blue in the face. Doesn’t affect me one way or the other.

          • Debbie Knight

            Stay ignorant and condescending, unable or unwilling to put together a strong argument. Your choice.

          • Fed up Citizen

            lol, okay…

          • Debbie Knight

            At least you admit your ignorance. That’s progress!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU KEEP PROVING YOU ARE THE IGNORANT ONE,

          • Debbie Knight

            I bet you are one of those old men who stands out front shaking his fist, yelling for everyone to stay off his lawn. Come on, tell us the truth.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            DOUBT YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT ONE IS.

          • Debbie Knight

            Another person without a rational argument. The world has too many of you guys.

          • Debbie Knight

            If you ever put together a rational argument, let me know and we can test your little theory.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            IF YOU HAD ENOUGH INTELLIGENCE, AND/OR IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY READ WITH SUFFICIENT COMPREHENSION TO COMPREHEND WHAT WAS WRITTEN, YOU WOULD KNOW I HAVE ALREADY DONE SO.

          • Debbie Knight

            Easy to say you’ve done it, but apparently not so easy for you to demonstrate.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THE MORE LOGICAL FAIR AND INTELLIGENT WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU.;

          • Debbie Knight

            You still offer NO evidence of your ability to put forth a rational argument.

          • pyrodice

            How lovely that we’ve silently elected you our representative.
            In fact though, I disagree with YOU.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU POOR SLOB. I PITY YOU AS IT SEEMS YOU NEVER SAY ANYTHING EVEN HALF WAY INFORMED OR INTELLIGENT/

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND IT SEEMS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. IS MAKE YOUR FEEBLE, AND DEMENTED ATTACKS ON YOUR BETTERS.

          • pyrodice

            I have yet to run into “my betters”. I fear your babbling may have scared them off.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW THEM WHEN YOU MEET THEM. A FACT YOU KEEP PROVING OVER AND OVER AGAIN BY YOUR CONTINUED ATTACKS ON ME.

          • pyrodice

            You’re the most hypocritical moron I’ve run into in a long time, which is really saying something, in the information age.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            IF YOU HAD THE INTELLIGENCE YOU SEEM TO THINK YOU HAVE, AND IF YOU HAD READ ALL I HAVE POSTED, YOU MIGHT REALIZE HOW WRONG YOU ARE. ONLY AS YOU ARE NOT THAT SMART, YOU WILL NNOT.

          • Debbie Knight

            You are the one trumpeting your intelligence…without providing any evidence of it.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AS MY MANY HUNDREDS OF FACEBOOK FRIENDS AND MY ,MANY FACEBOOK FOLLOWERS WILL ATTEST I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THAN ARE MOST, YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT, ONLY IT SEEMS YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW THE EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

          • Debbie Knight

            You previously wrote “AND I AM SURE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW YOU ARE A STUPID CUNT I WILL WASTE NO MORE TIME REPLYING TO.”

            It doesn’t take intelligence to make juvenile insults, so thus far the only evidence you’ve presented is that you are a rude man of questionable character.

          • Chumscrubber

            Exactly – have you noticed that equivocation is a common fallacy employed by the police?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            BS FED UP CITIZEN IS CORRECT.

          • Debbie Knight

            I’m not surprised you think so.

          • IllaConsiderit

            a huge no-no… 🙂

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            RIGHT ON!~

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            ME LIKE YOU! YOU LOGICAL AND INFORMED.
            IF YOU CARE TO, PLEASE CHECK OUT MY FACEBOOK PAGE AND IF YOU LIKE IT, PLEASE FRIEND ME.

          • pyrodice

            Tell me, do people go to “black academy” to sign up for that?

          • Fed up Citizen

            Yes they do, it’s called the Ghetto…and it’s free.

          • pyrodice

            So people go to the ghetto because it has a union, a pension, benefits, and a get out of jail free likelihood?
            somehow I doubt this comparison holds water.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            NO VALID EVIDENCE

          • Debbie Knight

            Your argument consists of yelling? Are you stamping your feet too?

          • IllaConsiderit

            Before I was really familiar with keyboard I used to do everything in caps, too. The first year I was online no one on the porn boards or sites cared enough to bother pointing it out to me 🙂

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FYI CHILD, THE WRITTEN WORD MAKES NO SOUND.

            AND YOU ARE A TYPICAL LOSER, WHO WHEN NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVE ME TO BE LOGICALLY AND/OR FACTUALLY WRONG,

            ATTACKS A NON RELATED ITEM.

          • RL

            I asked the same thing Debbie. Don’t bother with Mr. Reinhardt. He’s an angry older man that claims he uses all caps to see better.

          • Debbie Knight

            Thanks. I’ll avoid him from now on.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIRST, NOT ANY MORE ANGRY THAN ANY NORMAL PERSON.

            JUST MANY TIME MUCH GENERALLY EXPERIENCED AND THUS MORE GENERALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN ARE MOST MY AGE OF 81, AMONG THOSE WHO KNOW ME IN PERSON AND WELL I AM KNOWN FOR BOTH BEING ONE OF, IF NOT THE SINGLE MOST HONEST, AND TRUTHFUL PEOPLE THEY HAVE EVER MET, AND FOR BEING A VERY KIND, CARING PERSON WHO IS CONSTANTLY HELPING OTHERS, (-EVEN AT THE RISK OF PHYSICAL INJURY AND DEATH.)

            SECOND, I USE ALL CAPS TO SEE WHAT I AM WRITING MUCH MORE EASILY.

          • RL

            I believe you’re wrong on the first-“Not any more angry than a normal person”. But you are narcissistic. You display all the characteristics of NPD-Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
            1. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
            2. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
            3. Requires excessive admiration.
            4. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
            5. Is inter-personally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
            6. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
            7. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
            8. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes. Please bring something meaningful to the discussion. I would like to hear, oh, excuse me-READ, some solutions to issues and not personal attacks when you do not agree with someone. Be detailed. Keep in mind, the ages of long ago no longer exists in the 21st century. EX-If you were to be on the job market now for the positions you’ve held in the past, your prison record and arrests would hinder your ability to secure those jobs. As for your IQ-which test did you take, what were your results, and if it was Mensa, were you invited to join? A high IQ is good but does not mean that you will be successful, humane, truthful, have integrity or anything else. It just shows, on paper, your level of intelligence. Logic-which form of logic are you referring to? ( I AM MUCH MORE GENERALLY EXPERIENCED AND MORE GENERALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN ARE MOST MY AGE OF 81, AND I SCORE HIGH IN THE USE OF LOGIC, PLUS MY EFFECTIVE IQ IS IN THE TOP TWO PERCENT.) Formal, informal, symbolic, or mathematical when referring to others? With your employment record, I suspect it is mathematical. By the use of ‘generally experienced’, does that mean a ‘jack of all trades’? ‘More generally knowledgeable that most 81 year old people. Perhaps, but I know a few genius level people, couple of them 1/2 my age, that are truly kind, caring, insightful individuals who never gloat about their intelligence, demean others by using insulting words, and do not enter discussions without having their version of a possible solution to the issue being discussed. What is your ‘possible solution’ of this issue?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            IF YOU HAD A CLUE, AND YOU DO NOT, YOU WOULD KNOW I DO NOT FIT #1 AS I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING I SAID I HAD. I DO NOT BELIEVE #2. OR #3 OR #4

            I HAVE NEVER DONE #5. AS FAR AS #6, IF I DID NOT HAVE MORE EMPATHY FOR OTHERS THAN MOST, THOSE WHO KNOW ME WELL AND IN PERSON WOULD NOT ATTEST, ASIDE FROM MY BEING ONE OF, IF NOT THE SINGLE TRUTHFUL PERSON THEY KNOW. THAT I AM ALSO ONE OF THE MOST CARING AND HELPING ONES. NOR WOULD I BE SPENDING OVER A HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS A MONTH OF MY SOCIAL SECURITY FEEDING CATS NO ONE ELSE IS FEEDING.

            AS FAR AS #7, I DOUBT I AM ANY MORE ENVIOUS OF OTHERS THAN ARE MOST.

            AND FOR 38M WHAT SOME MAY CONSIDER BEING ARROGANT, IS NOT SO CONSIDERED SO BY AL.

            LAST, OH SO WRONG ONE, HAD YOU READ ALL OF MY COMMENTS, YOU WOULD KNOW I HAVE ALREADY POSTED SOME MEANINGFUL ONES. ,

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THE FACTS ARE, I COULD GIVE YOU THE NAMES AND CONTACT INFORMATION OF MANY WHO KNOW ME IN PERSON AND WELL, AND YOU COULD HIRE THE BEST DETECTIVES TO RESEARCH ME, AND YOU WOULD NEVER FIND ANY PROOF I HAVE SAID ONE THING ABOUT ME WHICH IS NOT 100% TRUE.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND SOME HAVE KNOWN ME SINCE 1950.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND RL, UNLIKE THE COWARDS WHO ATTACK AND INSULT ME AS YOU HAVE, I USE MY FULL NAME. I INFORM OTHERS I HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE. I DO NOT HIDE FROM ANYONE IN SPITE OF THE FACT I AM SURE THERE ARE MANY MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS AND OTHERS WHO WOULD KILL ME IN A HEART BEAT IF THEY THOUGH THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.

          • RL

            I have not attacked nor insulted you as you have with nearly every person you’ve responded to on this post. Just because YOU don’t know what my initials stand for means nothing. “I DO NOT HIDE FROM ANYONE IN SPITE OF THE FACT I AM SURE THERE ARE MANY MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS AND OTHERS WHO WOULD KILL ME IN A HEART BEAT IF THEY THOUGH THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.” Where on earth did this come from? Paranoid much? WOW! You keep referring to insults, low IQ, etc., but you have yet to answer any of the questions at the ending of my last post to you. Instead, YOU ATTACKED ME! BTW-if I was the ‘coward’ you think, I would not keep responding to some of your more interesting posts for months now. LOL

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIRST, IF YOU HAD A CLUE, YOU WOULD KNOW A PARANOID PERSON WOULD NEVER BE AS OPEN AS I AM OR USE MY REAL FULL NAME.

            SECOND, IF YOU HAD SUFFICIENT WORLD KNOWLEDGE, YOU WOULD KNOW MY COMMENTS ABOUT THERE BEING MEMBERS OF VARIOUS GROUPS WHO WOULD KILL ME AND THUS IT WAS A VERY VALID STATEMENT.

            THIRD, AS I HAVE NOT, ACCORDING TO YOU, “ATTACKED AND INSULTED” EVERY ONE WHO POSTED HERE, IT IS LOGICAL TO ASSUME I HAVE NOT AS THEY DISPLAYED A LACK OF LOGIC, KNOWLEDGE AND INTELLIGENCE IN THEIR POSTS.

            FORTH, YOU ATTACKED THE COP WHO WHO THE ARTICLE WITHOUT ANY VALID REASON.

            I WILL READ YOUR LAST POST AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SORRY THAT I HAD NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

            LAST, I SEE YOU DO NOT ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG EVEN WHEN PROVEN WRONG.

          • RL

            1st-just because you are saying ‘Neil C. Reinhardt’ is your actual name means nothing. The internet allows for investigations of people even without giving their name. 2nd-“THERE BEING MEMBERS OF VARIOUS GROUPS WHO WOULD KILL ME”. Many people in this day and age could make that very statement but don’t. However, if there is members of various groups who would kill you, for your safety, it’s probably not best to advertise where and who you are if the situation is that serious 3rd-everyone has their opinions and experience, just as you do. (You know-opinions are like assholes; everyone has one). That alone doesn’t make what they say illogical ,irrational, unknowledgeable, or unintelligent. It simply means you do not agree with them. 4th-I did NOT write the excerpt above. A PUBLIC official did. In doing so, then putting it on the internet, he almost begged people to respond, good or bad. Perhaps that is what he wanted-to see how people would react to outlandish statements. Who knows? Lastly, I have nothing to admit wrong to. What I post is in direct relation to my knowledge and experience; yours will be different. I have seen firsthand what people like Dave Mutchler can and will do to maintain power and authority over others for not obeying the ‘law’ e.g. what they say. How they will deliberately destroy someones life over small infractions. They will harass and push people to react to their outrageous behavior and lies, on the streets and in the courts. Again, your experience with police will be different. But I would still like to read more about your SPECIFIC thoughts on how an issue of this magnitude could be resolved. Not just an agreement with someone.

          • RL

            Why did you ONLY respond to the definition of npd? By your posts alone, which is also a representation of a persons character, is why #2 applies. You can say someone is wrong but your words alone do not make it truth. #5 – your attempt at insulting others who disagree with you. (Calling people ‘insulting’ names to imply you are correct in your opinions to a statement or response) #8 arrogance-having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one’s own importance or abilities. Highly opinionated. Do your posts suggest you are arrogant? When you keep referring back to YOUR life experiences, how well YOU done them, how great of a person YOU are, how many people YOU’VE helped , how intelligent YOU are, etc, then yes, #8 applies. But I’m not interested in that. It was an observation. What I would like to know is what exactly is your thoughts on exactly how to deal with the current situation of law enforcement in this country? Make them buy their own security insurance? Ban them from using lethal force until it’s a last resort? Require them to follow their oath to the constitution? Have police focus on crimes with actual victims? Alternative sentencing? ????????????????

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            SORRY I DID NOT CLICK ON THE “MORE” TO SEE YOUR QUESTIONS
            were you invited to join?

            NO, MY IQ IS 4 POINTS BELOW MENSA LEVEL, DUE TO A PHD (- DR CHARLES HEARN, OF SANTA MONICA, CA.-) WHO STUDIED INTELLIGENCE WHO, AFTER A SERIES OF TESTS AND INTERVIEWS. INFORMED ME I USED MY INTELLIGENCE NEARLY TWICE AS EFFECTIVELY AS MOST USE THEIR INTELLIGENCE. THUS, IT IS MY EFFECTIVE INTELLIGENCE WHICH IS MENSA LEVEL

            A high IQ is good but does not mean that you will be successful, humane, truthful, have integrity or anything else.

            WHILE NO ONE SAID IT DID, MANY WHO KNOW ME IN PERSON AND WELL (-SOME SINCE 1950-) WILL ATTEST TO MY BEING ONE OF, IF NOT THE SINGLE MOST TRUTHFUL PERSON THEY HAVE EVER KNOWN. AND THEY WILL ALSO ATTEST TO MY BEING KNOWN FOR ALWAYS HELPING OTHERS AND DOING SO MULTIPLE TIMES EVEN WHEN SO DOING PLACED ME IN DANGER OF PHYSICAL INJURY AND DEATH. SOME OF MY FIENDS HAVE EVEN NOMINATED ME TO BE A DESERVING PERSON ON THE ELLEN DEGENEROUS TV SHOW

            Logic-which form of logic are you referring to?

            THE KIND USED IN EVERY DAY LIFE,

            With your employment record, I suspect it is mathematical. NOPE

            By the use of ‘generally experienced’, does that mean a ‘jack of all trades’? ‘

            IT MEANS I HAVE LIVED IN MORE PLACES.,(3 COUNTRIES 10 STATES 20 CITIES)
            LIVED AT 14,200 FT AND CLOSER TO BOTH THE ATLANTIC (WITHIN 100 FT) AND THE PACIFIC (WITHIN 15 FT.)

            HAD MANY MORE PROFESSIONS, AND HAVE DONE MORE DIFFERENT THINGS THAN MOST EVEN THINK OF DOING. TRAVELED IN/ON MORE TYPES OF TRAINS, PLANES AND WATER CRAFT. HITCH-HIKED FARTHER. FIRED MORE TYPES OF WEAPONS, DID MORE DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE MILITARY THAN DO MOST. NEARLY GOT KILLED MORE OFTEN AND CAME CLOSE TO DYING SLOWLY THAN HAVE MOST. ENJOYED SEX WITH OVER 11 TIMES MORE LADIES HAN HAVE MOST AMERICAN MEN.

            FACTS ARE I HAD MORE DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPERIENCES BEFORE I ENTERED THE 7TH GRADE THAN MANY DO IN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. ( LIVED IN TWO OTHER
            COUNTRIES)

            DURING THE SUMMER IN HIGH SCHOOL BETWEEN 10TH AND 11TH GRADE. I FIRST ATTENDED TWO WEEKS OF NAT GUARD TRAINING AND THEN WORKED FOR THE US FOREST SERVICE FROM TIMBERLINE DOWN IN THE MOUNTAINS BY ASPEN. COLO. THE SUMMER BETWEEN 11TH AND 12TH GRADE, TWO WEEKS OF NG TRAINING. THEN STAKING URAMIUM CLAIMS IN THE MOAB, UTAH AREA. AND WAS A MEMBER OF A POSSE.

            WHAT DID YOU DO DURING YOUR HS SUMMERS??
            ,
            More generally knowledgeable that most 81 year old people. Perhaps, NO PERHAPS ABOUT IT AS EXPERIENCE EQUALS KNOWLEDGE AND THE MORE VARIED THE EXPERIENCES, THE MORE KNOWLEDGE. PLUS I READ AT NEARLY DOUBLE THE SPEED OF MOST COLLEGE GRADS WITH A COMPREHENSION WHICH IS PROBABLY AS GOOD AS MY LISTENING COMPREHENSION AND I ONCE GOT THE HIGHEST SCORE ANYONE IN THE WORLD HAD GOTTEN ON A LISTENING COMPREHENSION SKILLS TEST.

            but I know a few genius level people, couple of them 1/2 my age, that are truly kind, caring, insightful individuals who never gloat about their intelligence, demean others by using insulting words, and do not enter discussions without having their version of a possible solution to the issue being discussed. SO? THEY AIN’T ME.

            AND STATING FACTS IS NOT GLOATING

            demean others by using insulting words, SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING WHICH CAUSED IT

            and do not enter discussions without having their version of a possible solution to the issue being discussed. SO? THEY AIN’T ME

            THEY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS? WERE THEY DUES PAYING, CARD CARRYING MEMBERS OF NOW? WERE THEY DRUGGED AND RAPED BY A HOMOSEXUAL AND YET, YEARS LATER, BECOME A SUPPORTER OF GAY RIGHTS.

            What is your ‘possible solution’ of this issue? WHAT ISSUE? BAD COPS?

            FIRE THE MARGINAL ONES AND PROSECUTE THOSE WHO SHOULD BE PROSECUTED. INFORM ALL COPS THEY BEST TURN IN ANY COP WHO WAS DOING THINGS THEY SHOULD NOT BE DOING.

            AS A TERM OF EMPLOYMENT THE COPS WOULD KNOW THEY WOULD BE TESTED EVERY XX AMOUNT OF TIME TO VERIFY THEY WERE DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD. USE AT LEAST THREE OF THE VARIOUS LIE DETECTION TESTS TO VERIFY.

            LAST, WOULD I LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE AS TRUTHFUL, KIND, COMPASSIONATE, LOYAL, DEPENDABLE, JUST, COURAGEOUS, CARING, KNOWLEDGEABLE, LOGICAL OPEN, EXPERIENCED AND AS INTELLIGENT AS I AM FOR MY BET FRIEND? DAMN RIGHT I WOULD!

          • RL

            Looks like we’re not as far apart on solutions to the issue as we think. The only add-on would be random drug testing. Other than that, I agree that this would be a great starting point. Then with on going training, de-escalation techniques, effective use of non-lethal methods, and classes on the constitution and bill of rights we may get a police force that can and do serve the public interest in the correct way. 🙂

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AS ANY TRULY INFORMED, LOGICAL, RATIONAL AND INTELLIGENT PERSON KNOWS, THE WRITTEN WORD MAKES NO SOUND.

          • Debbie Knight

            Not much of a writer, are you?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            NOT WHEN IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO MAKE A POINT.

            AS FOR REPLYIMG TO YOUR OTHER COMMENTS, WHILE MY RETARDED EMAIL PROGRAM LOST THEM, I DO HAVE ONE REPLY AS TO WHY I AGREE WITH ONE OF THE POSTERS,

            I MOST PROBABLY AGREE WITH HIM BECAUSE I AM MUCH MORE GENERALLY EXPERIENCED AND MORE GENERALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN ARE MOST MY AGE OF 81, MY EFFECTIVE IQ IS IN THE TOP TWO PERCENT.
            WHAT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR DISAGREENENTS?

          • Debbie Knight

            Someone as highly intelligent as you must be able to figure out how to use the Caps Lock key. Maybe it is stuck. Did you drip something sticky on your keyboard?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIRST, WHILE THE FAIR, CARING, COMPASSIONATE, KIND, JUST AND INTELLIGENT ASK WHY I USE ALL CAPS, THE TRULY INTELLIGENT SIMPLY ACCEPT MY USE OF THEM..

            SECOND, I USE “ALL CAPS” AS I AM EIGHTY-ONE (81) SO I CAN SEE WHAT I AM WRITING MUCH MORE EASILY. PLUS, WRITING REQUIRES BOTH MORE TIME AND CARE THAN READING WHAT OTHERS HAVE WRITTEN

            THIRD, NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO READ ONE WORD OF MY ALL CAPS POST

            FORTH, AS I HAVE FOUND ALL CAPS TEND TO PISS OFF THE LESS INTELLIGENT, THE ILLOGICAL, THE IRRATIONAL AND THE POLITICALLY CORRECT, I LIKE THEM!

            FIFTH, THE LESS RATIONAL AND LESS INTELLIGENT ARE TOO ILLOGICAL TO COMPREHEND THE USE OF ALL CAPS DOES NOT NEGATE THE VALUE OF MY COMMENTS AND ANY INFORMATION I PROVIDE,

            SIXTH, I REALLY DO NOT CARE IF THEY LIKE MY USE OF ALL CAPS OR NOT AS IT IS OBVIOUS THEY ARE MENTAL MIDGETS.

          • Debbie Knight

            You could have saved lots of effort by just writing “Because I’m a rude jerk and use my age as an excuse for being one.”

            If you are so intelligent how come you haven’t figured out you can magnify the text on your screen to whatever size you want?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            IF YOU WERE NOT MENTALLY CHALLENGED, YOU WOULD I NEED NO EXCUSE TO BE BLUNTLY HONEST AND TRUTHFUL. IN FACT I HAVE BEEN AN EXCEPTIONALLY TRUTHFUL PERSON ALL OF MY LIFE. IF YOU HAD A CLUE, YOU WOULD KNOW BEING BLUNT AND TRUTHFUL IS ONLY CONSIDERED BEING RUDE BY MENTAL MIDGETS SUCH AS YOURSELF.

            THE FACTS ARE, MANY OF THE NEARLY 500 FACEBOOK FRIENDS I HAVE NOT ONLY LIKE MY BLUNT HONESTY, THEY HAVE COMMENDED ME FOR THE WAY I COMMUNICATE. SO GO PLAY ON THE FREEWAY WITH THE REST OF YOUR LITTLE RETARDED FRIENDS.

          • Debbie Knight

            Just as I thought: you are too stupid to figure out how to magnify the text on your screen and too small of a man to admit it and ask for help. Carry on.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            LOOK PISS FOR BRAINS, I ALWAYS ADMIT BEING WRONG IF I AM WRONG. AND I AM SURE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW YOU ARE A STUPID CUNT I WILL WASTE NO MORE TIME REPLYING TO. GO EAT SHIT YOU STUPID DING BAT BROAD!

          • Debbie Knight

            Struck a nerve, did I? Yes, you are a very small man.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            BECAUSE ALL CAPS PISSES OFF THE IDIOTS!

          • Debbie Knight

            No one is pissed off that you’re a jerk.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FOR SURE, THE MANY I HAVE HELPED AND DO HELP, THOSE WHO TOLD ME I WAS THE BEST SUPERVISOR THEY EVER HAD, MY MANY FRIENDS BOTH ON AND OFF LINE, THOSE WHOSE LIVES I SAVED AND THE OVER 15 I RISKED PHYSICAL INJURY AND POSSIBLE DEATH TO STOPPED FROM BEING CRIMINALLY ASSAULTED WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU.

          • Debbie Knight

            You sure like to blow your own horn. How pathetic.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AS THE LOGICAL AND INTELLIGENT KNOW, THE WRITTEN WORD MAKES NO SOUND AT ALL.

          • Fiona1933

            No, the simple way to deal with it is to make the police pay for the huge settlements from their cushy pensions. If you know you’ll have to pay from your own pocket, you’ll be more careful. It isnt gang members bringing lawsuits: its ordinary people who’ve been beaten senseless for nothing at all. Now, if a cop were stripped of his pensions, savings and property to pay for what they did, it would stop. They could still keep on using force when the need to, like I said, it isnt criminals brining lawsuits.
            I think this stuff is terrifying. It really looks like America is on the edge.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION

          • IllaConsiderit

            Posting this for “fed up citizen” 🙂 >I am not a left or a right,< 🙂 Not only do you seem to hope find a middle ground people can all agree on you writing style(may be) somewhat like my own. I am not left or right, how how the same on my politic's. Instead of lose the country to civil war, I hope people start considering fact like, just because McDonald's always open somewhere, if they got hungry there is no guarantee things couldn't get bad enough to were that could change.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            “I am not a left or a right, I am somewhere in between.” ME TOO. .

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          SO JUST WHAT DID HE SAY WHICH CAUSED YOU TO ASSUME “guys like this one, who think that they ARE the embodiment of the Law, ergo, ABOVE the Law?”

      • Jamie Patrosso-Pletka

        Exactly!!!

      • Hale

        No. Please see the comment my Mark Are above.

        • Fed up Citizen

          Well I can’t argue with you there. I am well on your side on that debate. However, that is a completely different discussion all together. I will be the first to admit that the penalties very rarely fit the crimes. Some are too extreme for certain crimes and some are not extreme enough. You won’t get much of an argument out of me on that one, Hale.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            NOR FROM ME.

        • Craig Mcgregor

          You are so right

      • Nancy Simpson

        Just wrong
        Training law enforcement is so far behind the times and does not address the section of the population they encounter most frequently. ..those in distress through systematic poverty, mental health issues and the ‘digression ‘ …yes personal digression of the officers them selves.
        Imagine if you will giving authority to transfer monetary funds of mass populations…townships and states…to cashiers and not accountants. ..sounds crazy right? Yet enforcement officers aren’t knowledgeable about laws…it’s not COST EFFECTIVE to make cashiers accountants or financial planners…and I’ve never met a lawyer who would enforce the law day to day…stop using emotions
        Stop being logic resistant

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          SEEMS YOU DO NOT REALIZE “FED UP CITIZEN” IS BOTH LOGICAL AND KNOWLEDGEABLE

      • Joe Green

        When the police chief and sheriff no longer demand that their officers generate more money this month than last month, no longer reward the officers who brought in the most money this month, and stop putting the officers on shit detail for having brought the lowest amount in, then we’ll be heading in the right direction and actually getting somewhere. Cops don’t have quotas, but they do need to generate more and more money for the department each month or they’ll be reprimanded and accused of not doing their job adequately. Until it’s no longer about making money, there will be no truly good cops and no truly just system. Just an organized crime unit stealing from those they swore to protect. The people have had enough and they’re finally fighting back in a last ditch effort to save our country from the greedy one’s in the driver’s seat.

      • IllaConsiderit

        You and I should start our own news channel, I came up with an awesome motto, too… Fox’s. 🙂

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        NICE TO READ THE COMMENTS OF SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE THEIR HEAD UP THEIR BUTT! GOOD ON YOU!

      • Tom Lowe

        I quit after your second sentence. Mutchler DID generalize and managed to insult me as a citizen with a perfect legal record. I don’t need this coming from some big fat pig with a low IQ suffering from a hormonal disorder caused by a pituitary tumor.

        • Fed up Citizen

          I quit after your first three words. If you can’t be bothered to read my full reply, don’t bother responding…because you can bet your ass that I won’t even waste my time reading anything you say.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            GOOD ONE! 🙂

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        RIGHT ON MR FED UP CITIZEN. I SURE DO LOVE READING INFORMED AND COMMON SENSE COMMENTS LIKE YOURS.

    • graigtalk

      RL, I think you reflect the attitude of a lot of us. We are not fooled by this bravado. We know what’s going on.

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        I DOUBT IT

    • shaun

      Agreed!!

    • Ian Richardson

      May I quote you?

      • RL

        Sure

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        YOU QUOTE RETARDS?

        • RL

          Seeing how you like to troll my comments Mr. Reinhardt, why don’t you bring a rational and logical comment or point of view to the conversation instead of being a hateful old man that believes everything the establishment tells him?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            A PERSON WHO THINKS THEY KNOW I BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE ESTABLISHMENT TELLS ME, PROVES HE IS TOO ILLOGICAL AND IRRATIONAL TO BE ABLE TO REALLY COMPREHEND LOGICAL AND RATIONAL COMMENT

    • KOGDEN

      wow! great post!

    • Richard Dufresne

      I agree with RL.

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        EAT FOLLOW THE LEADER PILLS?

    • eric

      PERFECTLY SAID, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MENTION TO DAVE MUTCHLER AND HIS FELLOW COPS. YOU ARE NOT BULLET PROOF, STEP OUTSIDE THE LAW AND YOU WILL BE PUT DOWN.. YOU CAUSED THIS SITUATION WITH YOUR RACIST ATTITUDE AND TACTICS SO GO TO HELL.. YOU COPS OBEY THE LAW AND THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR CAOS!!!!

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        PISS OFF RACIST

        • eric

          a cop cannot give no notice, tell them to notice not to run up on the wrong one. not all black men will stand by and let u murder them.. watch it crooked racist cops

    • Dimitri Theodosakis

      Start getting Murderous Rapist ones sent to Prison such as Eric Garner Murderer Walter Scott Murderer Michael Brown

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        THOSE YOU MENTION, YOU POOR FACT DENYING RETARD, ONLY HAVE THEMSELVES TO BLAME! TRY GETTING A CLUE!

    • NEIL C. REINHARDT

      HEY RL, BULL SHIT! YOU SHOULD GO LIVE WITH ALICE IN THE NEVER NEVER LAND OF HOW YOU THINK THINGS SHOULD BE AND NOT IN THE REAL WORLD.

      • Scott Downey

        You’re not a cop anymore, let go of your violent tendencies.

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          GO GET A NEW BRAIN. THE ONE YOU HAVE IS NOT WORKING.

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          IF I HAD VIOLENT TENDENCIES, I WOULD HAVE BEATEN ON ALL KINDS OF IDIOTS. YET, I NEVER HAVE, NOT EVEN ONCE. AND AS A FORMER COLLEGE FOOTBALL DEFENSIVE LINE MAN, DEEP SEA DIVER, BOUNCER, AND PARATROOPER WHO HAS TAKEN MARTIAL ARTS TRAINING, I CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITIES AND SIZE TO HAVE DONE SO.

      • RL

        You can say bs all you want, but police are to arrest and detain, not give out their special brand of justice. It’s bad cops who give good cops (?) bad names. 80 yr atheist, I read some of your other comments to others. You are really an angry old man that believes in no one but himself and ‘SCREAMS’ at everyone you make a statement to. Most of your posts are childish. So if you cannot make or contribute to a tangible solution or present an opposing view that makes sense, then be quiet. (I’m a realist so save your fairytale comments)

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          FIRST RETARD, THE WRITTEN WIRD MAKES NO SOUND AT ALL, MUCH LESS A LOUD ONE!
          SECOND, CHILD, I USE ALL CAPS SO I CAN SEE WHAT I AM WRITING MORE EASILY.
          THIRD, YES, THE SMALL PERCENT OF BAD COPS GIVE THE MAJORITY A BAD NAME. AND IT IS A SHAME.
          FORTH, ONE PROBLEM IS MANY, TO MOST PEOPLE ARE TOO ILLOGICAL TO CONSIDER THE FACTS.
          FIFTH, AS FOR MANY YEARS, I WAS AN ALCOHLIC (MY LAST ALCOLOL DRINK WAS 8-20-83) PLUS BREAKING THE LAW AS TEEN /YOUNG MAN. I HAVE BEEN ARRESTED MANY, MANY TIMES BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN COLO. & VARIOUS CA. CITIES, YET NOT ONCE, WAS I EVER MISTREATED BY THE POLICE.
          WHY? BECAUSE EVEN WHEN DRUNK, I HAD THE COMMON SENSE TO NOT RESIST IN ANY WAY!
          SIXTH, BECAUSE YOU, WHO THE ODDS ARE COME NO WHERE CLOSE TO ME IN THINGS REAL GROWN UP MACHO ALPHA MALES DO, (LIKE DEEP SEA DIVER & PARATROOPER IN THE 101ST AIRBIORNE) OR RISKING YOUR LIFE FOR BOTH BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS AND MANY TIMES STOPPING PHYSICAL ASSAULTS ON OTHERS, ) MANAGEMENT POSITIONS HELD AT NCR, MAGAVOX OR MY HIGH EFFECTIVE INTELLIGENCE WHICH YOU HAVE LESS THAN A TWO PERCENT CHANCE OF MATCHING, SAY MY POSTS ARE CHILDISH DO NOT MAK E THEM SO!
          SEVENTH, AS YOUR COMMENTS PROVE, THE ODDS OF YOUR BEING MORE OF A REALIST THAN I AM ARE ZERO!
          EIGHTH, UNLIKE YOU RL, AND THE COWARDS WHO HIDE BEHIND SCREEN NAMES WHILE ATTACKING OTHERS, I USE MY FULL NAME.
          NINTH YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT AS I BELIEVE IN MANY OTHERS.
          LAST, THE MANY, MANY WHO READ MY FACEBOOK PAGE EVERY DAY KNOW YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT ME ARE STUPID!

          • RL

            1. All caps is UNDERSTOOD to be yelling when posting. 2. Use bold print-easier to see. 3.If it is such a small %, then why do we hear of these things each and everyday? 4. And which FACTS are you referring to? The ones given by police, d.a.’s? Or real-time videos? The media? 5. Congratulations on your 32 year sobriety. I am assuming that being arrested was when you were younger? If so, I know how law enforcement use to be 40 years ago, which is in contrast to what it is now. Just because you weren’t treated bad does not mean others weren’t. Some even paid with their lives over facts from police (lies/justification). 6. ‘REAL GROWN UP MACHO ALPHA MALES ‘? Okay? Then I suppose your IQ is 7100 if I only have >2% of your intelligence. Wow, now I don’t take offense to you calling me a retard. And calling someone a retard is childish. Not once have I used any derogatory words in my posts to anyone. 7. You do not know that. 8. Did not know you perceived this as an attack. I considered it more of a lively debate. Apologies. 9. Maybe I’ll have to read your page everyday and see.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            FIRST ARRESTED AT AROUND 18, THEN AROUND 3O, 4O, 50, 60 AND 70. DUE TO BEING AN ALCOHOLIC I HAVE BEEN IN MANY JAILS AND ONE PRISON.

    • JoBoxer141
      • RL

        Mutchler. stop being petty.

        • pyrodice

          I just saw this. It’s entirely likely that was autocorrect.

    • NEIL C. REINHARDT

      YOU ARE A RETARD!

  • dman

    I think EVERYONE on here needs to contact their FEDERAL representatives and DEMAND a Federal law prohibiting Federal, State, County, City LEA from being in a union. Just like Reagan did they need to Fire 100% of non cooperative officers and replace them and ban LEA unions. They are the reason bad cops exist. LEA UNIONS you have been put on notice. Good cops, Keep up the good work and keep safe and thank you.

    • Ben Dover

      Fact is, the “good cops” QUIT because of the scum they work with. The ones you think are “good cops” are just putting on a “good act”. You have NO IDEA what they’re doing in the middle of the night when nobody’s watching.

      • dman

        I was just trying to be nice and have a 1/2 attempt at an excuse for when they come for me..

  • margova

    While I’m not at all a violent person…. I would not mind spraying this pos down w coal-oil and striking a match.

  • Ben Dover

    EXCUSE ME… but I just couldn’t read this story but I am assuming that this PIG is actually threatening non-cops…. so is it reasonable for me to “fear for my life” from this and other pigs?

    • Chumscrubber

      Not only reasonable, but recommended ; )

  • Dr. H. E. Sawyer, Jr.

    Mr. Mutchler: Just allow me to give you some good information. We didn’t ask you, or your cronies to get into the business of policing. However, you got into policing, and as such, you had better know and understand the following: Whether you like it or not, within the current Constitutional Framework, you cannot – repeat – cannot BREAK THE LAW to ENFORCE THE LAW. If you got into policing because taking an oath, and being CLEET certified, whatever that is supposed to mean, gives you permission to express your daily frustrations, by breaking the very laws that
    you are supposed to represent and to protect, well, then, get out of policing. That’s right, Mr. Mutchler, get out. Get out now. Let someone else have the job, who can PROTECT AND SERVE, without a “chip on your shoulder’. We taxpayers need people who will act as Peacekeepers.

    We want the Modern police officer to live up to the modern standard of PROTECT AND SERVE.

    You CANNOT serve your community, and your own self-interests. No one I know, wants a good
    cop to lose his or her life, or be maimed on the job. But, Mr. Mutchler, you, and your constituent
    police officers took that job, willingly.

    Now, do that job professionally, or get out of policing. Now, YOU are on notice, Mr. Mutchler.

    How do you like being bullied for a change ?

    Dr. H. E. Sawyer, Jr.
    UNITED WE STAND
    Manhattan, NYC 10019

  • concernedsinglemother

    Woah this is sounds like a threat to ppl who choose to exercise freedom of speech. Plus, I have never once been helped by police when in need but have been harmed when minding my own business.

    • Victoria Thorne

      as have i….more than once

  • I got my warning from the state police about filing complaints against them, “It’s not whether you comitted a crime or not, but whether you’re going back to prison or not”. This was the response to my neighbors “SWATTING” me again. In PA, they don’t arrest the person for false reports to police, they instead arrest the victim, fabricate evidence, and reward the punk kid with $35. http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/packrat50/index.htm

  • ItsRainingStatists

    A good defense lawyer could use this in court….lol…..What a fucking loser. He thinks he’s way more important than he is. Classic narcissist.

    • Angelus

      No a classic narcissist would only bolster their own ego. This man displays sociopathic behavior as well as psychopathic trndencies to make vailed threats in the form of “authorized deadly force” against anyone they consider a threat.

      So i think he is more a Sociopathic Narcissist with Psychopathic behavioral issues. But then again im quoting from the standard Criminal Justice Psychology Textbook. From the chapter on hoe to recognize a criminal of violent behavior. Lol.

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        GET YOUR DEGREE AT THE DIME STORE?

  • Robin

    What a Pig.Hope he rots in hell.Calling police out on their abuse of people and their abuse of law and out right fraud that many of them commit on a daily basis does not make it political.We have a right as citizens and taxpayers to call them out on their disregard for the rights of others and downright criminal behavior.Hope his open letter is used against him every time he testifies in court or if he is ever brought up on charges .Hope he chokes on his open letter.I use to think this country would fall apart without cops now I believe we would do better without them.$%UCK THE POLICE!

  • Lester MurphySr

    Everyone they come into contact with is potentially a criminal, not a citizen. If you resist illegal search and seizures or illegal detainment or press your rights in any manner then you are resisting and will be met with force.
    So tell me something I don’t already know.
    Armed resistance is authorized by the Constitution.

  • ItsRainingStatists

    I wonder if this guy is aware that a pack of NJ cops just let their fellow officer murder his wife in front of their child….Then gave him a hug afterwards. He’s threatening people for exposing police criminal behavior. Surprise level = 0.

  • THbites

    Hey Louisville,

    Guess who won’t be taking at least two of our regular vacations to your town this year? Me and my family. We love staying at The Brown and your beautiful bed and breakfast’s, but I won’t even stop and buy gas now.

  • tl cox

    Sure …

  • Tim

    And u sir are being put on notice. As an American tax payer I refuse to support police who use thier badges and guns to abuse the American people through rape, robbery and unwarranted physical abuse meted out by those that have no moral compas. “We The people” pay your salary and we expect and demand that u uphold the constitution as u have sworn to. So Fuck criminal cops and the pussies that stand bu Baca use of the thin blue line.

  • THbites

    Oh and that is one fat ugly head!

  • Kevin Murray

    Put him on notice with a bullet in his head!

  • My take is that we have their attention! It means exposing their wrongdoing is working. They ARE afraid!
    Check out PoliceOne and Law Enforcement Today. You will see LEOs have all but declared war on any who refuse to worship them. They refuse any attempt by citizens to talk about issues, and will ban anyone who even suggests that LEOs bare any responsibility for the public distrust that exists.
    Lets keep up the work, and double our efforts to expose their criminal existence.
    ~Armchair Activist
    http://www.facebook.com/honestyinreporting

    • NEIL C. REINHARDT

      THIS AGNOSIC ATHEIST ACTIVIST SEZ, YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

  • Alfred G. Mendoza

    YOU WILL ALL BE TURNED OVER TO THE “INTERNET-POLICE”!…

  • polliwogg

    “President of The Fraternal Order of Police” IOW, this lardass sits behind a desk and pushes pencils. Hey, Dave, my dad lives in Louisville. He’s retired Detroit cop. And he thinks you’re an asshole.

  • Michelle Smith

    This just sounds like to me that he is letting everyone know that you will be met with force for every situation and they will use whatever lies they have to so they can justify their actions. OH… I shot him cause he verbally assaulted me!

  • Jason King

    Did this piece of crap coward behind a gun say 99% of them serve with integrity??? And they have integrity and we need to get it??? Please fire this ignorant fool who obviously has his had up his ass and is missing all the videos coming out daily of coward pigs killing innocent people or slamming the shit out of defenseless women, or tasing the mentally ill or beating the shit out of people in wheel chairs! You have our attention also don’t think we are all scared of your coward asses! We outnumber you!!!

  • Mike Mesa

    Mr. Mutchler, You have only made people see, more clearly, that there is a problem in this country, and what that problem is, people like you.

  • Anthony Massey

    Thank you for threatening the very people who you are supposed to protect and serve. You my snort nosed infidel, are the very reason people have such a huge disdain for the poLICE ! You know where I’m from, the only way to get rid of the bully was to beat his ass! People like you need a badge and a gun, in order to feel like somebody!

  • Wobbly

    I just sent Dave Mutchler a message on Facebook, advising him the he is on notice. Nothing else. No threats. Just “You’re on notice.” I imagine a few hundred of those might give him pause to reflect on his poor choices in life.

  • Angela Monger

    No you asshole, you need to start hiring police officers who have integrity. I didn’t know that breaking the ribs of a 12 year old girl showed integrity. Or some cop putting his fat ass on a teenage girl. Or killing a 12 year old. Or using foul language. Putting us on notice? We’re putting you on notice that we are watching you. You better damn well remember that you work for us. Before you start talking about integrity I better see some. Oh and by the way lay off the donuts.

    • Kat Ford

      Untouchable, him. Not only is he behind the thin blue line, he has all his union members on his side.

    • I accidentally woke my wife up cheering for this post…

    • NEIL C. REINHARDT

      EVER NOTE HOW THE MEDIA DOES NOT REPORT THINGS LIKE “NO HOMES BURN DOWN TODAY”? THE MEDIA NORMALLY ONLY REPORTS THE BAD-!
      OUT OF THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, IF NOT MILLIONS OF COPS IN THE USA AND THE MULTIPLE OF POLICE CONTACTS PER DAY, THERE ARE BOUND TO BE SOME IDIOT COPS WHO DO WRONG THINGS.

  • Stefon Scott Loch

    Reality slap badged criminal thugs : You should be in prison.. just like any other psychopaths .

  • AJ Walker

    There is far too much evidence to show the opposite of what this guy is saying. And until his so-called 99% STAND UP and SPEAK OUT PUBLICALLY against their fellow officers, I cannot logically believe they are not thinking the same thoughts and have intentions of doing the same actions. To all the so-called “good cops” who never speak out, your silence shows your consent.

    • AmeriKa

      Sounds like you have been duped by the race baiters and liberal media too. You only see what you choose to see. Every race story that has blown up in the last two or three years had more to the story than what was reported. Michael Brown? straight up thug. Treyvon Martin? smart mouthed little punk. Eric Garner? long list of criminal activity and he refused to cooperate with the police while he openly broke the law. Sorry but the Al Sharpton crowd, including Obama, has failed MISERABLY.

      • Mozart

        Do the Math, Oh, Brainwashed One…

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          GET THE FACTS! OH SO VERY IGNORANT ONE! AND IF YOU DO, I REALLY HOPE YOU ARE BRIGHT ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO FULLY COMPREHEND THE FACTS,

      • Mr. Wrestling III

        This isn’t about “race baiting”. It’s about police accountability. Treyvon Martin was stalked and harassed by a dumbass citizen, not a cop. The cops actually tried to get that jackass to leave the kid alone. You’re a moron. The cops are killing people of all races at an alarming rate. That’s why 117 other countries railed on our human rights record. It was all due to the enormous amounts of police brutality in this country. Regular, everyday, law abiding citizens are being brutalized. That is a big problem. They aren’t beating up “thugs”, they’re kicking your sister’s ass too.

        • John LaBombard

          Funny, you weren’t there on that street when the confrontation happened, so you can’t say what exactly happened. As far as police killing people, when has a cop gone up and shot someone for no reason? NONE. The problem is not the police, it’s the criminals. They have NO respect for law enforcement officers so they resist, escalating the situation. It used to be when you got caught, you gave up, now they want to fight with police. That is when suspects get shot. The police are not out to die for the public. They are not members of the military, they enforce the laws. If you break them, then expect the police to come looking for you. If you attack a cop, expect them to protect themselves. If that means shooting you to keep you from injuring them or others, then that is what they will do. If you don’t want to get shot, then DON”T RESIST ARREST!!!!!!! Once they decide they want to arrest you, NOTHING you do or say will change it. If they are in the wrong, sort it out later; not on a dark street.

          • Mr. Wrestling III

            Actually they shot Tamir Rice who hadn’t broken the law. He was 12 years old and they shot him within 2 seconds for having a toy gun. It’s the cops who are out of control. There is something that can be done to change it if the cops want to arrest you unlawfully. We have the right to defend ourselves against unlawful arrest. Also, if you run fast those fat pigs will never catch you. It’s a fact that cops are the most physically unfit of any one profession in the US. So, it really wouldn’t be difficult to outrun them. You’re a cop or a bootlicker, too stupid to see the problem for what it is. 117 other countries can see it, why can’t you?

          • John LaBombard

            Yes, EVERY cop is corrupt. Fine. The next time someone is trying to break into your house, don’t call the police, they might shoot you instead. There are dirt-bags in ALL professions, the problem is 1/100th of 1% of them; and yes, they need to be held accountable for their actions, but you people make it sound like every one is evil and just looking for an excuse to shoot someone. These are people just like you and me, doing a job that NONE of you want to do. They have bad days just like you do, only if you screw up, it’s no big deal, you have to re-do a report, or cut a new board, or whatever you do for a living. These men and women have to live with the fact that someone died, or was seriously injured because of them. You expect a HUMAN to be PERFECT all the time. In 2010, the Office of Inspector General for
            Health and Human Services said that bad hospital care contributed to the deaths
            of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year. I don’t hear you bashing doctors. They should be even more perfect then police; they don’t have to worry about being attacked by patents. How about all of you take a threat analysis class and see what it’s like to be in a police officer’s shoes for just one afternoon. I guarantee every one of you will have a new appreciation for what they have to do every day.

          • John LaBombard

            I never said there wasn’t a problem. I just said that you people are trying to blame ALL cops for the actions of 1 out of 500 of them. Like I told the other guy, ALMOST EVERY time someone gets shot by the police it’s because they are resisting arrest. You let the arrest you, because there is NOTHING you can do to keep from being arrested if they decide that they are going to. So, when you get to jail, call your lawyer and start on your lawsuit. Otherwise, I’ll sit back and read your obituary and laugh.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            AND HOW WAS THE COP SUPPOSED TO KNOW IT WAS NOT A REAL GUN? AND THE KID DID NOT DROP THE GUN.

          • Mr. Wrestling III

            Didn’t drop the gun? He wasn’t given a chance. He was shot within 2 seconds. As to how the cop was suppose to know it wasn’t real, the caller told the police it was a kid and it was probably a toy. Now turn your caps lock off, moron.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            WRONG! WATCH THE VIDEO, PROBABLY A TOY! AND KISS MY ASS, YOU TOTAL RETARD AS THE ODDS YOU CAN MATCH MY HIGH IQ ARE LESS THAN TWO PERCENT-! http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/nov/26/cleveland-video-tamir-rice-shooting-police

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            People are getting shot by toddlers on a weekly basis this year
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/people-are-gettin…
            The Washington Post
            Loading…Oct 14, 2015 – Toddlers are finding loaded guns and inadvertently shooting … [How often do children in the U.S. unintentionally shoot and kill people?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            WRONG, IT WAS LONGER THAN TWO SECONDS. WATCH THE VIDEO,
            http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/nov/26/cleveland-video-tamir-rice-shooting-police
            NEXT PISS FOR BRAINS, THE ODDS OF YOUR MATCHING MY HIGH IQ ARE LESS THAN TWO PERCENT. SO GO PLAY WITH YOUR MENTAL MIDIGET LITTLE FRIENDS.

          • Mr. Wrestling III

            Your high IQ? You can’t even spell midget properly. Also, they prefer little people. You are dumb. You cannot even figure out how to turn off your caps lock. You defend child murderers. I will not respond again. You are too stupid to help.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU ARE A TYPICAL LOSER WHO DISLIKES BEING PROVEN SO YOU ATTACK THE MESSINGER.

            FIRST, TRULY RATIONAL, LOGICAL AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIKE FAMED AUTHOR LEON URIS, (-AUTHOR OF EXODUS, TOPEZ PLUS OTHERS-)KNOW THE FUNCTION OF LANGUAGE., THE PRIMARY PURPOSE, IS SIMPLY TO COMMUNICATE A DESIRED MESSAGE FROM ONE, TO ONE, OR MORE OTHERS.

            IF THIS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED, THEN SUCH THINGS AS INCORRECT PUNCTUATION, GRAMMAR, SPELLING, ETC. ARE THINGS WHICH ONLY THE ILLOGICAL AND IRRATIONAL ANAL RETENTIVE NIT PICKERS OF THE WORLD WORRY ABOUT.

            SECOND, WHILE THE FAIR, CARING, COMPASSIONATE, KIND, JUST AND INTELLIGENT ASK WHY I USE ALL CAPS, THE TRULY INTELLIGENT SIMPLY ACCEPT MY USE OF THEM..

            THIRD, I USE “ALL CAPS” AS I AM EIGHTY (80) SO I CAN SEE WHAT I AM WRITING MUCH MORE EASILY. PLUS, WRITING REQUIRES BOTH MORE TIME AND CARE THAN READING WHAT OTHERS HAVE WRITTEN

            FORTH, NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO READ ONE WORD OF MY ALL CAPS POST

            FIFTH, AS I HAVE FOUND ALL CAPS TEND TO PISS OFF THE LESS INTELLIGENT, THE ILLOGICAL, THE IRRATIONAL AND THE POLITICALLY CORRECT, I LIKE THEM!

            SIXTH, THE LESS RATIONAL AND LESS INTELLIGENT ARE TOO ILLOGICAL TO COMPREHEND THE USE OF ALL CAPS DOES NOT NEGATE THE VALUE OF MY COMMENTS AND ANY INFORMATION I PROVIDE,

            SEVENTH, I REALLY DO NOT CARE IF THEY LIKE MY USE OF ALL CAPS OR NOT AS IT IS OBVIOUS THEY ARE MENTAL MIDGETS.

          • Jonathan Mckeever

            what about the near half million people in our country alone who are sitting in a jail cell withing for their day in court? many of them have been there for years.

          • John LaBombard

            That sir, is not a police problem, it is a courts problem. The police just make arrests, they do not prosecute the cases, or release them at leisure. They wait for the courts to decide guilt or innocence. Have you never watched an episode of Law and Order?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            SO TRUE, JOHN, SO TRUE.

          • John LaBombard

            It’s easy to throw out arbitrary numbers. Where are your facts. Name someone who is rotting in jail waiting for their day in court. There are always going to be people waiting for their time in court. People get arrested every day.

          • Victoria Thorne

            YES!! YES!!! COMPLY!!! COMPLY!!!! COPS ARE ALL POWERFUL!!! THEY NEVER LIE OR FABRICATE ANYTHING NOT EVER!!!! IF THEY SHOOT YOUR 12 YEAR OLD CHILD AT SCHOOL WITH A TAZER ITS PERFECTLY OK!!!!!! IF THEY SHOOT AND KILL MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE RIGHT IN YOUR HOME RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ITS PERFECTLY OK!!!! YOU WILL BE OK WITH IT!!!!! ITS GOOD FOR YOU!!!!! take the pills……

          • Rob

            Get off of here. you are obviously a one sided blind man. I watched a video a few weeks ago with a cop shooting a guy in the back for running then he planted evidence to save his ass instead of rendering aid. You argument holds no water, you are dismissed you American Citizen hating BS spewing fool, You have to love the people to protect and serve the people.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            WHERE DID HE SAY THE COPS WERE NEVER WRONG?

          • Jimmyb

            You are one stupid mother fucker and probably a Fucking douche bag pig. If you think I’m going to let some fuck face pig arrest me for no reason just b/c he said he can and I’ve done nothing wrong. Yeah right, try that shit and end up dead. I have the right to kill you for trying to unlawfully arrest me. And i will if you ever try!!

          • John LaBombard

            I must have hit a nerve. I didn’t get nasty with anyone, but you start your viscous attacks on me just because I have a different opinion than you. If you act like a thug, you will get treated like a thug. And with the way you talk, you sound like a thug. Oh, and about your killing a cop, because you “think” it’s an illegal arrest: I’ll sit at home and read your obituary and laugh.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            HI JOHN, LOSERS DO NOT LIKE FACTS AND LOGIC, SO YHEY ATTACK THE MESSINGER. . WHEN POSTERS POST LIKE THEY ARE RETARDS, I CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE.

          • John LaBombard

            Actually, you don’t. You can only use deadly force in the defense of your life or someone else’s life. Being arrested, is not endangering your life, so if you attempted to kill said police officer, he would have every right to defend himself from attack, probably by shooting you. This scenario happens over and over again in this country and people keep blaming the police. If the police decide that they are arresting you, you will go to jail, as the Borg say: “resistance is futile”. When you do, you are likely to be tazed, beaten, and possibly shot; depending on how aggressively you resist. So, when you think about it, the dead ones are the ones who resisted the best. I have NEVER heard of a situation where someone was nice and courteous to the police where shot.

          • grim3per

            i guess the 7 year old girl in detroit deserved to have her head blown off…..and what about little baby Bou Bou? he deserved to have his face blown off by a flash bang, right?

          • John LaBombard

            Those are two incidences in a world that the police are in contact with the public millions of times every day. You make it out that every cop gets up and hopes to kill someone that day. That is the furthest thing in every cop’s mind. It’s more like I hope I have a safe day.

          • grim3per

            john ….you’ve got your head in the sand. i’m sorry but everytime i think i’m coming down on LE to hard they do something to prove they are out of control. if the drug war were ended 90% of this crap would be history.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            JOHN IS LOGICAL, YOU ARENOT!

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU ARE INCORRECT ABOUT NO COP EVER JUST SHOOTING SOMEONE WITHOUT A JUSTIFIBLE REASON, SADLY, IT HAS HAPPENED.

          • John LaBombard

            It’s semantics, but I said, NO reason, not justifiable. They always have a reason, it’s whether or not it is justifiable. There have also been several cases of accidental shootings. I’ve seen video of someone getting shot while handcuffed, cop not using proper trigger discipline. With that being said, 999,999 out of 1,000,000 times when dealing with cops, if you are respectful, even if getting arrested, you will not be shot.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            I AGREE IF YOU 100%. WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER WHO WAS STUPID AND STOLE GAS, AND THE MANY YEARS I WAS AN ALCOHOLIC WHICH GOT ME ARRESTED MANY TIMES. NOT ONCE DID I HAVE A REALLY BAD EXPERIENCE WITH ANY COP.

            I THINK ANY AND ALL MARGINAL COPS SHOULD BE FIRED AND THEY SHOULD PROSECUTE ALL COPS WHO ACTIONS WARRANT IT…

      • Papaduke

        Does it make you sad that people do not automatically respect you because of your costume and your shiny piece of tin?

        • dufas_duck

          Part of the problem is that police think fear and respect equal the same thing………

          • Grannie Oz

            Many folks believe that, including many misguided parents. Sad.

          • Chumscrubber

            Truth mutha’ f-ing bomb dfas_duck!

      • shawnjoubert

        White people choking black men, white people chasing down black teenagers for walking with skittles,killing black teenagers for music to loud,shooting homeless. All cops need I say more

        • BoomTurkeyOverlord

          You are incorrect in saying that all of these murderers are cops. It doesn’t help the cause of accountability when people calling for it don’t have their facts straight. Please learn the real facts so as not to make us all begging for accountability by police officers look bad.

        • Rob

          Get out of here with your race crap. its about power not race. I’m tired of your type screaming “Racism every time you don’t like something. All you do is water down the true problem. Some of the cases involve race, but they all involve some cop wanting power. How can you expect everyone to get past the color of your skin if you can’t? Its all about POWER!

          • Arishia

            It’s both.

        • AmeriKa

          Blacks are thugs everyone knows that. Nobody likes them and nobody wants them around hell they don’t even like each other.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            NOW YOU ARE BEING A STUPID RACIST!

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          BY PERCENT OF POPULATION, BLACK PEOPLE BY FAR, COMMIT MANY TIMES MORE CRIMES THAN WHITES DO. AND FYI, FACTS ARE NOT RACIST, THEY ARE JUST FACTS.

      • Jim Schreiber

        Well, aren’t you a moron. Let me give you a clue. Not that I expect it will get through your addled skull, but I feel I have a duty to try to educate the mentally challenged.

        Treyvon wasn’t shot by a cop. He was shot by a racist piece of shit and he wasn’t even armed.
        Michael Brown? Thug? Are you joking? You’re as much of a racist piece of shit as the cop that killed him.
        Garner was also murdered by a cop. Do you get that running away from a cop is not automatically determined by a cop to be a FUCKING DEATH SENTENCE CARRIED OUT BY A LOW IQ MONKEY BRAINED FUCKWIT WITH A LICENSE TO KILL?

        Where did you get your high school diploma? In a cereal box?

        • AmeriKa

          Michael Brown was a piece of shit that got what he deserved. You need to lay off the crack pipe.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            SAME FOR THE CRIMINAL TRAYVON. AND ANY WHO DISAGREE ONLY PROVE THEY ARE EITHER TOO LAZY TO GET THE FACTS, OR THEY ARE TOO STUPID TO BE ABLE TO FULLY COMPREHEND THE FATS. OR MORE LIKELY THEY RE BOTH TOO LAXY AND TOO STUPID.

        • NEIL C. REINHARDT

          YOU JIM, ARE AN ILLOGICAL, IRRATIONAL, UNINFORMED, FACT DENYING RETARD! A FOOL WHO WOULD NOT KNOW THE TRUTH WERE IT A SHARP POINTED CACTUS RAMMED UP YOUR ASS.

          • Jim Schreiber

            Please. Try not to strain your simian brain too much. I can’t help it if you are a racist who apparently gets it up for fascist cops and their Klan cheerleaders. You should have tried harder in school.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THE ODDS OF YOU MATCHING MY MANY TIME TESTED AND PROVEN HIGH EFFECTIVE INTELLIGENCE IS LESS THAN TWO PERCENT. THIS AS INTERVIEWS AN TESTS PROVE I USE MY INTELLIGENCE NEARLY TWICE AS EFFECTIVELY AS MOST USE THEIRS
            SO GO PLAY ON THE FREEWAY WITH THE REST OF YOUR MENTAL MIDGET LITTLE FRIENDS.

          • Jim Schreiber

            Very cool. Your translator is very good. I am impressed that apes can sign as well as you can. Do you work for bananas or is it just wallowing in your own feces as normal?

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOU ARE SO MENTALLY CHALLENGED, YOU ACTUALLY THINK OTHERS READING YOUR RETARDED DRIVLE THINK IT IS TRUE.

          • Jim Schreiber

            You never cease to amaze me. I had no idea that pox-ridden retarded monkeys could speak! The things we can do these days. Fantastic.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOUR STUPIDITY DOES NOT AMAZE ME AT ALL AS IT HAS BEEN VERY APPARENT SINCE YOUR FIRST POST NOR DOES IT AMAZE ME HOW YOU INSIST IN YOUR PROVING HOW MENTALLY CHALLENGED YOU ARE IN POST AFTER POST. WHILE I DO PITY YOU, I PITY THOSE YOU INTERACT WITH MORE.

          • Jim Schreiber

            I TOO CAN TYPE IDIOTIC NON-SEQUITERS IN ALL-CAPS AS IF IT MAKES ME SOUND MUCH MORE AUTHORITATIVE AND VALID WHEN IN FACT YOU’RE A CRETIN AND A DUMB CUNT.

            Seriously, you just bore me now. I only reply to practice insulting you in a more adroit fashion.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            ANY MONKEY IS OBIVIOUSLY MUCH SMARTER THAN YOU ARE,

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            YOUR STUPIDITY DOES NOT AMAZE ME AT ALL AS IT HAS BEEN VERY APPEARENT SINCE YOUR FIRST POST NOR DOES IT AMAZE ME HOW YOU INSIST IN YOUR PROVING HOW MENTALLY CHALLANGED YOU ARE IN POST AFTER POST. I DO PITY YOU.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            THE REASON LOSERS LIKE YOU ATTACK YOUR BETTERS ID BECAUSE YOU ARE UNABLE TO PROVE WHAT THEY SAY IS EITHER LOGICALLY OR FACTUALLY WRONG.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            HEY ASSHOLE, YOU RISK PHYSICAL INJURY AND DEATH FOR BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS AS I DID IN NEW ORLEANS IN 1958 OR IN NASHVILLE TENN. IN 1961 OR IN LOS ANGELES IN ABOUT 1967? ———– RACIST IDIOTS LIKE YOU SAY NON-RACIST ACTS AND-NON-RACIST WORDS ARE RACIST WHEN THEY ARE NOT RACISTS IS A REAL RACIST.

          • NEIL C. REINHARDT

            ANY LOGICAL RATIONAL AND INTELLIGENT PERSON WHO HAS TAKEN THE TIME TO GET THE FACTS AND IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGHT TO FULLY COMPREHEND WHAT THE FACTS PROVE (-WHICH SURE LEAVES YOU OUT-) KNOWS TRAYON MARTIN WAS A CRIMMINAL PUNK WHO HAD ZIMMERMAN NOT SHOT HIM, BEEN CHARGED WITH ATTEMEPTED MURDER.!
            AND THEY ALSO KNOW BOTH EYEWITTNESS TESTIMONY FROM BLACKS AND THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE ALL PROVE THE 6′ 4″ INCH, 289 POUND MICHAEL BROWN FIRST STRONG ARMED ROBBED A FELLOW BLACK AND THEN ATTACKED THE POLICE OFFICER WHILE HE WAS STILL SITTING IN HIS PATROL CAR, AND THAT BROWNS ACTIONS ARE WHAT GOT HIM SHOT DEAD.

      • Neal Feldman

        Ah, another copsucker… and racist, that is abundantly clear.

        • AmeriKa

          Eat another Whopper you fat bastard.

      • AJ Walker

        LOL, too funny. So, identifying the long history of racial disparity in America is now seen as having been “duped by the race baiters and liberal media”? So, identifying and calling racism for what it is, every time it rears it’s institutionalized ugly head, is some sort of trick?

        The racial disparity has been widely reported for decades in black and brown communities, it’s only now that video evidence is widely available to refute the “authority” of law enforcement. Walter Scott was shot 5 times in the back and had evidence planted on him by one of your “holier than thou” law enforcement agents.

        So please, save the denials for your momma. Anyone who wasn’t living in a fantasy land can see the research and evidence readily available. But if reading is too hard, we’ve been shooting this for DECADES while white Americans continue to turn a blind eye and look for every excuse to not call if for what it is.

      • Nobody

        “Refused to cooperate with the police.” Since when does that merit a death sentence? What in hell is wrong with you?

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        THIS AGNOSTIC ATHEIST ACTIVIST AGREES WITH YOU.

  • spike spiegel

    come and have a go if you think youre tough enough pigthug me and me mates smith and and wesson and comrade kalashnikov be waiting #187

  • Stefon Scott Loch

    You’re on Notice , right back at you.. brainwashed , boot-licking Coward. I just messaged this lunatic, no threats .https://www.facebook.com/dave.mutchler.16?fref=ts He’s obviously quite stupid.

  • Mr. Wrestling III

    This moron thinks he put cop watchers on notice. All he really did was put a target on the backs of his fellow Louisville officers. This is the kind of misguided rhetoric that makes people hate cops. It’s like he’s inviting people to fuck with them. I’m glad I don’t live there, this has disaster written all over it.

  • mjr1114

    He proved where he really stands the minute he typed/wrote the words ‘race bait’. It’s an automatic deflection of the reality of racism in this day and age and an attempt to pretend it doesn’t exist. He isn’t worried about the people he claims to ‘serve’ and ‘protect’, if he is too defiant to admit racism does exist and there are officers of the law with issues with people of color. A good representative of good police officers would point out that racism does exist and will not be tolerated.

  • Meme

    This moron and his funky pig friends, really believe that the people who oppose their crooked ass ways are the “few?” I’ve got news for you deputy donut, you are the few. We out number you and out gun you! You are on notice pig! Thank you for giving everyone out there a nice big ugly face to hunt down when the time comes. You just made yourself the target. Stupid ass. You put yourself out there, because you feel invincible while sitting in your little FOP Lodge, drinking beers with all your pig friends. Forgetting the fact that you have to leave that safe little hole in the wall, and travel outside, in the real world. Lmao. Cops really do have low a low IQ. .

  • Leeuh SuelStotts

    What a fucking prick.

  • David Fischer

    There are definitely major problems with the police and this letter comes no where close to understanding the problems. The police don’t recognize the constitutional rights of the public and they are given exceptional protection by the justice system. The letter gets to the point of threats of violence and intimidation as well as the use of powers that they are not supposed to possess.
    This letter sounded more like a declaration of war than an argument against the movement that is becoming popular, from sea to shining sea. These Para military police need to learn that it is not the criminal elements fighting them but people fed up with their trail of death and destruction. Understand that we desire a better justice system and the rights that we are entitled or by some means we will disassemble your police powers and rewrite the rules that police operate under. We want civilian control of complaints against police and ethics rules that are enforceable with penalties equal to the violations. The list of changes is extensive because so much is wrong but I think others can help complete this list.
    You, the letter writers, want a war , we the people want justice.

  • reikimama2013

    So, can someone tell me WHERE this ‘open letter’ was posted, or first appeared ? Care to vet the authenticity of the ‘open letter’ , anyone?

  • Joe Schmidt

    First off hero you need to know the law to be able to enforce it , communicating a threat Is a violation of the law and doing it on the internet against the general public could be laid out as making a terrorist threat against citizens keep talking your shit donut muncher bubba’s going to love your fat ass

  • Bendy Bentley

    Hey asshole, YOU are on notice. People are sick of your shit. No one gives a flying fig what your sorry ass thinks, or says. I hope you crash into a tree, and and I hope that the tree lives.

  • Craig Winans

    So here’s a cop threating American citizens. Wher’s the DOJ on this one?

  • Koanu

    All the people you guys murder, beat, profile. Its more like 1% of police act with integrity and respect unless your not white you do get treated different. Ive noticed cops act differently towards a white person like myself so nice unless you profile me for a hippy then not so much then mean to a black guy righy off the bat like my younger brother or various friends. Come now, Dave your just turning a blind eye because its your job. If you were on the streets with us youd think different. But your paycheck forces you otherwise. We will continue to Demonize the cops as they continue to act like animals. I do not give a cop lip until they start off with disrespecting me. If they are respectful i respond the same. But i will not bow down and lick there boots ever. Hate the people all you want, Dave the statistics of brutality and stripping us of our rights are there.

  • Seatired

    I had to stop after he said “We Do Not Fear You”…. Yeah you fucking do. That is why you are always fucking killing unarmed people. If the cops would simply stop being criminals there would be no problem. The “Fraternal Order of Pussies” is no different than the Mob, The Crips, Bloods, Hell’s Angels….ETC. Notice to police..STOP FUCKING LYING

  • Frank Kush

    With talk like that he may just find himself in the court of people one day where justice will be swift and without mercy. Americans have had it with all of the legal extortion schemes and the abuse we take at the hands of sadistic psychopaths who you protect.

  • Krist Martin

    That is the most asinine letter I’ve ever read. He doesn’t bother to acknowledge that police in his own town have violated the law and attacked innocent people. Or that police nationwide have been caught doing this while “protecting and serving” the people. How does breaking a 14 year old’s girl’s ribs and wrist constitute “protecting”? He ignored the main point of the anti-cop argument, and that argument is simply bad cops need to be prosecuted as criminals. Cops need to stop abusing their power. Period.

    • dufas_duck

      He didn’t over look police wrongs. He is part of the problem. The police union will give a bad cop a pass no matter what a bad cop does wrong, it’s part of his ‘protect and serve’ job. Between the self investigation of police wrong doing, police union, police internal affairs, policeman’s bill of rights, police “policy” that’s made up on the spur of the moment, police that witness an event that either keep their mouths shut or outright lie, police chiefs and hierarchy, crooked DAs, police friendly judges, police friends on grand juries and police revue boards, etc, etc,……Dave Mutchler and others like him already has all the ‘friends’ and support he needs. All others are his enemy and he has just stated this as fact.

      Dave Mutchler does not want to be your friend, he is not your friend, he will never be your friend, he is your oppressor, your controller, the boot on your neck…

  • Monty

    Can we get a link. I want to comment directly to this sow.

  • Ken Pederson

    I just went on Dave Mutchlers Louisville Kentucky Fraternal Order Website & signed in using my name & email address. I left him a short & easy to understand message….” On notice Dave”

  • Phillip Marsh

    To Dave Mutchler, president of the FOP in River City

    Consider this an open letter to you all police officers.

    The American public is FED UP with being inundated day after day with reports
    of police “officers” using excessive force, of arms and legs and fingers being
    broken while “prisoners”, prisoners being “scalded alive” in a shower, “officers”
    shooting children sitting with a BB gun two seconds after the “officer” exits
    the squad car. These are just the tip of
    the iceberg.

    The American public is FED UP with bad cops thinking they
    are above the law. We are fed up with
    bad cops planting evidence. We are fed
    up with bad cops lying under oath, making false arrests, lying to judges and
    juries about what happened. We are fed
    up with “equipment malfunctions” just as bad cops are committing crimes against
    those people they are supposed to protect.

    The American public is FED UP with police automatically assuming everyone is a
    criminal until you decide they are innocent.
    We are tired of you illegally seizing property. We are tired of bad cops breaking the law,
    murdering people and getting a slap on the wrist at best.

    This is not just one bad apple in the barrel – there are far too many bad
    apples in the barrel.

    The American public is FED UP with cops turning a blind eye to the CRIMES being
    committed by bad cops, covering up for bad cops, treating the good cops that do
    turn in bad cops as if they were criminals themselves.

    The American public is FED UP with being lied to about quotas. A rose by any other name is still a
    rose. Whether you call it a performance level,
    a target, a goal, or by any other name, a quota is still a quota!

    The American public is FED UP with rampant corruption in far too many police precincts!

    The American public is FED UP with police MURDERING innocent
    people who need help with medications.

    The American public is FED UP with police murdering homeless
    people!

    The American public is FED UP with over used excuse of “we feared for our lives”
    – just how do geriatric people make you fear for your lives, or chained up
    dogs, or someone 30 feet away with a stick, or a bunch of teens in a car
    without weapons.

    The American public is FED UP with the police in this country shooting more
    people in a single month than the entire UK police force shot in entire
    CENTURY!

    The American public is fed up with garbage traffic stops on
    trumped up crap. We are tired of being
    passed by cops traveling 80 mph or 90 mph in a 35 mph zone without lights
    on. We are tired of cops barreling up
    behind us at break neck speeds with or without lights on. We are tired of cops butchering every traffic
    law to catch up to someone because they rolled through a red light and in the
    process these cops run people off the road, change lanes unsafely, and even
    cause wrecks all so they can write a ticket!

    And just how is the American Public supposed to tell the different between a
    good cop and a “cop” hyped up on steroids or other drugs with a chip on their
    shoulder and pissed off because they couldn’t cut it in the military and have
    something to prove?

    All you have to do is read the papers to know that this is only the TIP of the
    iceberg of “bad police behavior”.

    Perhaps once you start following the laws that you are sworn
    to uphold, making examples of bad cops (including kicking them off the force
    and keeping them from being rehired anywhere), quit acting like 2nd rate
    mercenaries that couldn’t get into Blackwater or the military, public opinion
    might begin to change.

    In general, the American public does not trust law
    enforcement. I for one would NEVER tell
    a child to run to cop if they felt in danger (especially if they were black). You cannot deny that black people and other minorities
    are treated worse on average by cops.
    What is easier to believe – all the black people and minorities are
    trouble makers OR that cops mistreat them more?

    Unfortunately, it is getting more difficult to find good
    cops that actually uphold the law these days.

    And you wonder why we don’t trust you?

    If you didn’t act like THUGS, if you didn’t break the law, if you didn’t MURDER
    people, if you didn’t shoot people right and left, if you didn’t use excessive
    force, if you didn’t retaliate again people that expose your corruption then you
    might have a better reputation.

    The American people should stand up and demand a national
    level agency that investigates ALL reports of police wrong doings. Every shooting would be investigated by this
    agency, every death, every broken bone, every shattered eye socket, every hint
    of planted evidence at the scene of a crime, every incident of recording
    equipment “malfunctioning” or being turned off … in short, all wrong doings
    would be investigated by a national agency that is NOT made up of cops, that
    has no connection to the cops being investigated. Further there should be a national database
    that records every shooting, the name of the cop that fired the shots, whether
    the person was killed, everything under investigation should be on this database
    AND it should be a matter of public record BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the
    official investigation. Further, this
    agency would have the authority to fully prosecute bad cops as well as those
    that cover up for cops! AND, this agency
    would hold cops to the same standards are ordinary citizens, no special
    consideration given AND maximum sentences use don civilians would be given to
    cops found guilty of murder and committing crimes! Those who are supposed to defend and protect
    SHOULD be held to a higher standard of conduct than ordinary citizens!

    So consider this an open letter that the American public is FED UP with bad
    cops, cops that protect bad cops, cops that harass good cops that reveal
    corruption. We are FED UP with cops
    thinking they are above the law, that they are judge/jury/execution.

    • dufas_duck

      If you analyze what Dave Mutchler is really stating, it IS the day by day reporting of police doing wrong and being brought to public attention. He is not complaining about any wrong doing by the general public, it is the wrong doing the police being exposed that has set him off.

      If there were no crime, Dave Mutchler seems to be the type that would create crime just to flex his power.

      Cops need crime in order to exist and ‘feel’ needed..

    • RL

      Excellent!

  • reikimama2013
  • Steve Daily

    Get rid of all police. We can police ourselves without murdering, raping, and robbing each other.

  • Trevor Burns

    He should have stopped at “public we SERVE”

  • Breathial

    Another retard cop. SMH.

  • Jim Wiggin

    He says, “We know that the vast majority of you see that ninety-nine percent of police officers serve with integrity and courage” but he doesn’t seem to believe it. I think it true that most people believe that most officers attempt to serve with courage and integrity. Why then do he and other spokespeople for police groups take legitimate criticism about police overreach so personally? Many of the situations we have been seeing recently involve an escalation of force that occurs when disrespect for authority on the part of one or more civilians encounters an insistence on compliance with orders by an officer. The escalation is often fueled by race or class issues. Without apologizing for the disrespectful, the officers are the trained professionals, usually with superior armaments, and we expect them to avoid bad results. But they are human, too.

  • Robert Comstock

    I think he should readdress this letter, and send it to himself and his cronies.

  • Jesus Christ

    “not simply stand by and accept your verbal or physical assaults.” So … no Freedom of Speech if it hurts you feelings?

    “we will hunt you down again and again until they put you away or you go away.” Trumped up charges? People disappearing in the back of a van only to end up in a coma in the hospital?

    ” If you use deadly force against us or use or attempt to use a dangerous instrument or deadly weapon against us, we will use deadly force against you” COPS STATEMENT: “I thought he had a gun so I used deadly force.” It was a cell phone you dummy.

    “To the sensationalists, liars and race-baiters ” VS the Professional liars found among the Police?

    “From now on we will call you out each and every time you tell a lie, twist the truth or otherwise engage in vile behavior meant to push your selfish agendas.” VS How the Police lie and twist the truth?

    “Your attacks can’t stop the truth from shining through.” I do believe this is what you have been told.

    “No one gets a separate set of rules.” Try telling that to your officers and the other officers across the country.

    “Consider yourselves on notice. We challenge you to have the same integrity and dedication to serving the community that you say you seek in the police. We already have it. You need to get it.” This is your job we pay you to do.. set the example, stop making up “crimes” to question people or get their ID, stop breaking the law you are paid to uphold, and stop your lying..

    I am watching you.

  • JibsMan

    First of all; WE did not start this. YOU DID.

    WE are REACTING to the complete disregard for Citizen’s
    Rights when it comes to interactions with police. You disregard our rights to
    film you, as specified by The Supreme Court, in ANY STATE. You disregard our
    right to ask what law we broke. You disregard our right to withhold our
    personal data when you ignore our right to know what we law we broke. And yet YOU
    are giving CITIZENS Notice? Remember us? The people WE thought you were
    protecting?

    You disregard our right to refuse to present our personal
    data at DUI Checkpoints. Our rights in this case are backed by the 4th Amendment.
    “Citizens are not required to show ID unless they are ‘reasonably
    suspected of committing a crime.’ Unless, that is, you are in a state that
    allows you to require we give our name, because some of your buddies convinced
    the government that even though it is against our 4th Amendment rights
    it’s the “Safe Thing To Do”. The laws in this area are so convoluted that it
    takes Lawyers to sort it out. You must admit (although you won’t) that asking
    someone for their ID just because they drove down a particular street on which you
    are conducting invasive searches is not a “reasonable suspicion”. Yet
    if Citizens refuse to submit, comply and give up our 4th Amendment Rights then
    you pull the citizen out of the car, beat them, taze them, and/or shoot them
    and then charge THEM with assaulting an officer. And yet YOU are giving
    CITIZENS notice.

    There is a theme here. YOU DISREGARD CITIZENS RIGHTS. You
    think YOU are in charge. CITIZENS MUST COMPLY with ANY ORDER YOU GIVE. NO
    MATTER HOW MANY OF OUR CIVIL RIGHTS YOU TRAMPLE OR HOW STUPID YOUR COMAND IS.

    And you know, you are right.

    The United States of America, the Bastion of Freedom,
    provides you with the authority to do whatever you want without consequence.
    Time after time we see cops found “Not Guilty” or found that
    “The Grand Jury finds no reason to indict”. The District Attorney
    will find no positive side to indicting a cop when they rely on cops to testify
    in their trials, and their career is more important than “some idiot who
    failed to kiss a Cop’s ass”.

    Let me say that again. The United States of America, the
    Bastion of Freedom, provides you with the authority to do whatever you want
    without consequence. Including “Giving Americans Notice” of some
    ominous threat of violence if we “do not comply.” This is how your
    “Putting America On Notice” reads.

    So now let’s get to your “Open Letter to ALL CITIZENS
    OF THE UNITED STATES”;

    First, you applaud all Cop Lovers. Good for you. Until you
    beat, taze or shoot a few more of them, not knowing they supported you in the
    first place. I have read the stories where Citizens who supported you changed
    their minds after you beat the crap out of them. You are losing support, and
    will continue to lose support until you figure out how to keep your fellow
    officers in line (or the government finally figures out what is actually
    happening). The Blue Line is really getting thin.

    You do not realize the number of Citizens who are fighting
    Police Brutality. We are NOT a “small group”, as you would like to
    present. There are hundreds of thousands of American Citizens who see the
    Police as an Unmonitored Menace To Society. We see YOU as a GANG of
    Supremacists (not racial, just supremacists. You think you are better than everyone
    else, and all Citizens must bow down before you.)

    You state in your “letter” that you will
    “always protect our citizens and ourselves.” Which Citizens are you protecting? The ones I
    mentioned above that support you no matter who you kill? The White Ones? You
    are certainly not protecting the Poor, or Blacks, Latinos or any other
    Non-White citizen. Have you been to the Pool lately? Is your protection only
    limited to other cops or your friends?

    You say that “99 percent of officers serve with integrity
    and honor.” Let’s go with that; 99% leaves 1% of rotten apples.
    Unfortunately the 1% is the Top Brass. They allow their officers to murder
    their wives, kill dogs, murder citizens without consequence. Yet YOU are giving
    CITIZENS notice.

    Over 500 American Citizens have been murdered by police in
    2015. Yet YOU are giving CITIZENS notice.

    While you do not expressly state this, you are implying that
    ALL AMERICANS THAT DO NOT BOW BEFORE YOU ARE CRIMINALS. Yet YOU are giving
    CITIZENS notice.

    You say “Soon, we may have to ask for you to rise with
    us against the small, but very vocal group of people in our city who resist
    everything we all strive to attain — freedom, safety and the ability to live
    our lives happily and without fear.” Yet the citizens you are saying will
    support you actually detest you. YOU are the ones that are taking our Freedom,
    Safety and ability to live our lives happily and without fear. I’ll wager you
    would love to kill me right now, and would if you thought could get away with
    it, like Michael Slager thought. Yet YOU are giving CITIZENS Notice.

    You say that you do not fear the “criminal
    element”, yet you beat, taze and shoot children and dogs. I’ll say that
    again: You say that you do not fear the “criminal element”, yet you beat,
    taze and shoot children and dogs. Sounds like you “fear” everything.
    Especially dogs. Why is that?

    You say “We are not your punching bag.” You are
    right there! WE ARE YOUR PUNCHING BAG! If you have some time I’d LOVE to show
    you some Cop Beat Down Videos. INNOCENT, UNARMED MEN AND WOMEN BEING BEATEN BY
    COPS.

    You call US “sensationalists, liars and
    race-baiters”. Have you been to the public pool lately? You arrest people
    who will not IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW YOUR ORDERS, after you beat them, including 13
    year old girls. Yet YOU are giving CITIZENS Notice.

    You say “Now your rhetoric, lies and hate puts all of
    us, police officers and citizens alike, in danger.” I think you have it backwards. As I said at
    the beginning of this letter, WE DID NOT START THIS. YOU are putting us all in
    danger because you cannot solve an issue without Escalating Violence. AT THE
    FIRST SIGN of noncompliance YOU Grab People, Pull them out of their cars, Beat
    Them, Taze Them or just Shoot Them. Yet YOU are giving CITIZENS Notice.

    Here’s a good one: “Your idiocy and lies are what
    caused the destruction in Ferguson and other cities around our country and we
    won’t be tolerating that here.”
    Let’s read that one more time: “Your idiocy and lies are what
    caused the destruction in Ferguson and other cities around our country and we
    won’t be tolerating that here.” OUR idiocy? WE as a People of the Internet
    and Social Media HAVE NO NEED TO LIE! WE JUST WATCH THE VIDEOS and respond
    appropriately. Yet YOU are giving CITIZENS Notice.

    You say “It is obvious to nearly everyone that you are
    attacking and lashing out at the police instead of attacking the real
    problem…” “Nearly Everyone” is you and the police force, and
    maybe a few elected officials… Anyone with any knowledge of the current
    issues KNOW that THE POLICE are the cause of “the real problem.”
    Beating, tazing and Killing suspects IS THE REAL PROBLEM. I have to ask… who
    said “YOU” ARE AUTHORIZED TO PUNISH SUSPECTS? Yet YOU are giving
    CITIZENS Notice?

    I Love This: You say “Are you not paying attention to
    what is happening around the country?” Yes we are Brother, and this is why
    you wrote your “You’re On Notice” letter. WE THE PEOPLE have HAD
    ENOUGH OF YOUR “NOTICES”, Beat Downs, Dog Killing, Unarmed Citizen
    Killing (OVER 500 US CITIZENS KILLED BY POLICE IN 2015) and general “Jump
    On The Car And SHOOT 36 bullets through the windshield of unarmed
    suspects.” Yet YOU are Giving CITIZENS Notice.

    And This: “Your flawed logic and lack of reason
    regarding events that occur in our society makes you appear stunningly
    inept.” Um… have you watched any
    of the videos on YouTube or Facebook showing Cops flagrantly disregarding the
    safety and rights of those around them? Either you have and, since you are a
    FOP you simply ignore facts, or you refuse to because you do not want to see
    your Brothers In Arms Behaving Badly. Of course, since you are a mouthpiece of
    the FOP I can understand your total ignorance. WE are inept? OUR logic is
    flawed? What is the IQ requirement in your city? Will you accept any applicant
    with a +90 IQ? Or is that too high?

    We’re almost done folks… “Your ridiculous demands and
    anti-law enforcement attitude has reached a level that is unacceptable.”
    Yes, demanding Justice and Fairness is probably unacceptable to you, since that
    would take your superiority complex down too many notches. “Ridiculous
    Demands”… to be treated as a human being, rather than a criminal without
    any reasonable cause would be really nice. “Anti-Law Enforcement Attitude”…
    to NOT be pulled out of our cars, beaten, tazed and shot just because we
    disagree with you would be really really nice. Do you see where this is going?

    American Citizens have the right to; live their lives
    without being suspected without cause, being kidnapped and caged because we
    disagree with a Police Officer, being shot because we ran away, being beaten,
    tazed or shot simply because “you feared for your life”.

    American Citizens also have a right to an environment where
    Citizens are NOT afraid of the Police. Mr. Dave Mutchler, WE have the RIGHT to
    NOT BE AFRAID OF OUR POLICE!

    On a personal note, Mr. Dave Mutchler, you remind me of a
    High School Kid who beat up anyone who looked at him the wrong way. I wonder
    how your Classmates remember you.

    Signed,

    John Beals

    Hillsboro, Oregon

    You Know, The LEAST CORRUPT STATE IN THE UNION.

    • dstallworth

      Ohhh, that was an awesome response!! I think these cops are losing their collective minds!

    • Dr. H. Sawyer, Jr.

      WOW !!! What a beautiful, well – thought – out, well – executed response !!!! FIVE STARS !!!!

    • BoomTurkeyOverlord

      Well done John. Very well said.

    • John

      You sure have a way with words! I bet that made him put his tail between his legs and run! You are right there are hundreds of thousands of us that are tired of legal thugs

    • William Borden

      Well said sir.

  • motorfingaz

    Fat Freak!

  • nobleknight2

    “ninety-nine percent of police officers serve with integrity and courage” this in itself is a lie coming from a deluded mind. They have rationalized themselves into believing this, which allows them to abuse their power. We see it more now because everyone has a smart phone. If you don’t want to be demonized, then don’t act the way you do. I know there are many good cops out there, but there are many bad ones out there too..not just one percent. Ya’ll need to be taking care to police each other so that we start believing in you again….but I truly think that just like the guys in power at the top who could care less about the regular people, cops (in general) have the same mentality. You see all of us as the enemy instead of regular people like yourselves. You are supposed to think this way in order to serve and protect…no us, but the ones in power.

  • Patricia Stidham-Burns

    When they start demanding KILLER cops be brought to trial and found GUILTY when it’s ON VIDEO! As in the case of Eric Garner!
    When they start demanding that their “Brother in Blue”STOP profiling and using excessive FORCE!
    When they STOP trying to fill up the PRISONS with Black and Brown Skin!
    When they ar found GUILTY OF THEIR CRIMES!
    Then and only then will Iever believe there are good cops. Iknow some. Ihad a cousin that was murdered! I worked very closely with cops and detectives for two years on his case. It was horrible. But those cops were mean. Not to me. Just in general.
    So As I said. When they can do all that and the County Prosecutors can put these other criminal cops behind bars.The ones with lesser offenses fired. Start hiring more intelligent cops so they can’t be trained to be “pigs” You know if you score too high on their test it disqualifies you. They want C and D students!
    PROVE YOUR DAMN WORTH!

  • Kat Ford

    FOP, what a joke. Y’all want respect? How about holding your own “brothers and sisters” accountable to the laws you enforce instead of standing behind the “Thin Blue Line” that is your brotherhood. Cops cover for cops, plant contraband on innocent people, lie in court, shoot family pets and have to belong to a union to protect your job. You only hire people that fit into the profile of someone that is a follower, never someone that can make logical deductions and be humane. Only the cocky and arrogant need apply. Get a real job, then we can talk..

  • Richard Hanzon

    I belive the one persent of the world that controls it has an agenda and that the notice that he issued was for them to hear..

  • Jenifer Newman- Whelan

    Are you threatening the american populace? ?? Your nothing but glory seeking revenue generators. .. back in line boot licker. … your day is coming.

  • Richard Hanzon

    let us all remember that its our City Fathers that demand quotas from law enforcement in order to keep the taxes flowing. and its our congressmen and Senator that make laws that are victimless and in some cases outrages and then require law enforcement to charge us so the Lawyers that work for the city can prosecute us and then fine us. but since nobody wants to be fined for a crime that there is no victom. nobody wants to be around the people who we the people asked to be on call in case any of us need someone to help us. and we sent them to schools and they trained for this very calling. “But” becouse our polititians want to bitches of those that want to control everything including you and I. they have made the people we asked to protect us to go out and cite us and charge us. And its because of this that we have built a wall between us and our law enforcement personal. and its becouse of this wall that alot of good people quit law enforcement. which left a vacuum for some people who should be in prison not public service that are the problem. So I challenge our law enforcement to do us all a service and stop worrying about quotas. all that dose is fill politicians and corporate stockholders wallets. and it is what is causing the people of this great land to feel the way they do.. And I chalenge the people of this country to take up a call to only vote for a politition that is a retired law enforcement officer. they’re the ones that walked our streets every night and they know what our city’s need. and I would say this to all. if we let the few continue to fuel this fire all of our law enforcement that take pride in their public serve will end up leaving , and who is going to fill the vacuum that they leave behind

  • Jock Doubleday

    I don’t think U.S. cops have ever enforced the law of the land, only the laws of the bankers’ politicians. “To Protect and Serve . . .” the House of Rothschild. Why do you think they don’t finish the sentence?

  • Josh Day

    I’d stick up to my word. Give me your address bro. We’ll see who sits up at night scared, “on notice.”

  • Paul Bogosian

    Dear Mr. Mutchler: You and your brother/sister officers work for us. Through our rents and our taxes, we pay the official portion of your salary. By way of our city council meetings and voting booths, you’ll do what we say. And if it doesn’t fit your bill, there’s always Wal-Mart.

  • Not pro Israel

    Id like to take a dump in his fat face hole.

  • NiteGoat

    Bully. “…we will not simply stand by and accept your VERBAL or physical assaults”.

    Sorry there, lil’ buddy. But you can’t do shit to someone for exercising their natural born and constitutional right to free speech.

  • PK

    As a lifelong union member and officer..your attitude..and this letter..makes me sick to my stomach! You are not above the laws you enforce! You need to be held accountable just like the rest of us..you know..the ones that pay your wages! You SERVE us..and you seriously need to look at yourself and the people you hire..and protect from liability. To simply shrug off the acts of violence your membership commits almost daily..and to twist the facts to make yourself the victims is disgusting. You..my friend..are being put on notice..we are watching!

  • Roger Irwin

    I believe there are a number of good cops out there, who have the safety, and well being, of the public at heart….Just like I believe there are a number of Muslims out there that do not really want all Christians, and Jews dead……NOT!!!!

  • David H. Walstrum

    Hey you need to start hiring cops with IQ above 80 so they can make intelligent decisions and behave rationally.

  • david

    This cop needs an attitude adjustment, since he works for us. We too will call you thugs and criminals out at every turn. Quit assaulting and murdering innocent people, and you’ll gain back respect, otherwise expect us to film you at every turn and scrutinize your actions .

  • Jimmy L Aldrich

    Tell the meathead pig to go fuck himself. J.L. Aldrich

  • PigglyWiggly

    This man-boy needs to be put in place. No criminal record here, I am spotless and obey all legitimate laws… still, cops are organized crime, NOTHING MORE. They are mobsters of the government to protect arbitrary and often unconstitutional laws. They DO NOT serve and protect anyone but themselves and officials and the will of the elite. When a cop hauls someone off for a mortgage foreclosure, is that protecting you or me? When a cop gives someone a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt, who does that benefit? See the extortion… see who is being served. Don;t fall for the BS hype. Cops are the largest organized crime group in the USA.

  • Papaduke

    This makes me fear for my life… you know what that justifies…

  • steppen

    the pinhead has been watching too many terminator movies et al.

  • JammieDodgerTwinz

    Oh god. Nothing worse than a douche-bag, hoople head with a thesaurus.

  • Dave Pa

    does he realize there are like 19 million americans who are laughing at him and dont give a fuck about his authority and shit ass attitude? I could go on for days…but seriously…look at that fools face and hair cut. LOOK AT IT! He looks like a strange breed of the Michelin tire due and mr. hanky. I mean, who can take this guy serious?

  • Scott Batchelor

    Where does that fat, candy filled delusional fuckwit get off telling anyone they are “on notice?” What the fuck does that shit even mean? Sure there are actual criminals, but the average citizen who hasn’t done anything worth being chased down for are the ones who have a problem with your particular aggressive form of “Law” enforcement. We don’t have to lie about cops when they are caught in the act of tasing a child, shooting a harmless dog, punching a pregnant woman or an elderly person. Swarming some non combative poor bastard and beating them to within an inch of their lives or just killing them and getting off. You posturing assclowns putting us “on notice” is laughable. You work for the public, therefore it is YOU who are “on notice”. Dave Muchler, you and your ilk are to be seen and not heard. Shut your fat fucking pie hole and try to do the jobs you were hired to do without all the pansy posturing and threatening. For the most part, you really aren’t needed for most of the idiotic shit you do. The imbeciles in your “profession” have chosen to be a dangerous liability to the public who pays your salary. If I have a problem with a thief or attacker, I can handle it myself without you “Day late and dollar short” monkeys stumbling through. I imagine my having a negative opinion of the halfwits in your “profession” will make me a target of your ire and likely to become the focus of your attacks. Well, for the record Dave..Fuck you and eat a bag of dicks. Get a real job you pussies, and stop being leaches on society.

    • Dave Pa

      shits funny, bro. He looks like mr hanky and the michelin tire dudes offspring. Come to think of it, he looks a little like cartman! respect my authoritIIIIII!!!!!!

  • Bobbie Jo Justice

    thugs with badges, because who else would “protect us” from the “dangers” of window tint.

  • Dave Pa

    thats the spirit you cartman looking fuck! why not act like every other stormtrooper while the country burns. We ‘criminals’ as you put it have no respect for your ‘thoriTI. lmao. Shits funny…

  • SGillhoolley

    Hey dumbass cops, most people DO NOT TRUST YOU any longer. Why? Because the actions of police have shown that they cannot be trusted. They do not know the laws that they are tasked with enforcing. There are many racists in the department, and the mythical “good cops”, when they rear their heads, get slammed down by the system that only seems to tolerate violent cops. Cops are the enemy because they clearly view us that way. Keep pushing the people, and one day you will all end up on the pointy end of large stakes, lining the way into the city.

  • Anon

    So….in NO case were police acting wrongly? A guy walking on the sidewalk gets taken to the ground, then shot and killed by an idiot cop who thought it was a taser? A guy walking near a convenience store with his headphones on, shot IN THE BACK for not obeying? A guy runs away, gets shot in the back and the officer tries to plant evidence? A kid with a toy gun shot dead? These were acceptable apprehensions? Acceptable outcomes? Really? Really? This guy lives in La La Land.

  • Dave Mutchler looks like the only running he can do is to a donut shop. The police unions are part of the problem, defending their members no matter what they do.

    “No matter how weak our criminal justice system, we will hunt you down again and again until they put you away or you go away. No matter how weak our policies we will find a way to make you understand that Louisville isn’t where you want to live. Most importantly, though, take note of the following: If you actively resist or assault us, we will use every option available to take you into custody.”

    JUDGE JURY EXECUTIONERS HUNTING US.

  • whatever.

    bit of both. on one hand, there are people in blue who do still stand for protecting the peace, but there are also assholes in blue. and honestly, lumping them together does exacerbate the problem. people fear the police, they act out, the police respond, some of them unreasonably, and others more reasonably than their media coverage lets people believe. like the people speaking out against police, the decent police are the ones we’re not hearing much about- because they’re doing their job and that just doesn’t make the media their money. However, when a cop DOES get outed for doing something that outright violates a person’s rights and they get hardly a slap on the wrist, how can you expect for the people NOT to start thinking something’s not right? that’s the only solution I can think of. If you guys do your job right, you should be fine. And if you don’t, well, then like any other individual who doesn’t, you should be punished, especially if you break one of the laws you’re supposed to be enforcing.

    • Neal Feldman

      They lump themselves together when the so-called ‘good cops’ do nothing to stop and everything to proect the ‘bad cops’. Makes them all equally bad.

  • Jim Chavez

    proect themselves against verbal assaults? has he not heard of the first amendment? you are paid to do a job, just do it as LAW requires or find a new line of work. the pistol and badge don’t make you above the laws of all citizens.

  • Rolling Stoner

    Let US be very clear about something…. You had the support of the people up until you went from being officer friendly to Robocop. The last thing we feel is safe and secure with you on the streets. When abuse of power to enforce conformity became more of an object for you than serving and protecting the public, all that support went right out the window. You, as police definitely have a bigger responsibility to uphold the laws you swear to protect and that includes your own. When all we see daily is another clip of footage of your kind mis-using their power in the name of policing, what then do u expect the reaction to be? Threatening the general public certainly isn’t helping your cause. Hiding behind the thin blue line of corruption like cowards is not going to make things better. If 99% of you are in fact “good cops” then start exposing and expelling that bad 1% and perhaps u will regain some of the trust you’ve broken. Stop acting like you’re ill-equipped to deal with the public, if anything, the contrary is true. Has crime risen to the degree that we now need tanks on our streets and the doubling up of police? I highly doubt it. You are far better equipped than most military personnel, and you’re only dealing with fellow citizens, not terrorists or massive threats to national security. What we’ve been seeing is an increase in police brutality at the hands of your finest and are met with hostility, arrogance, and threats. What we demand is fair policing practices for all Americans, and don’t be fooled, you’re equally being watched and put on notice. We do not fear you, for you’re the one that’s outnumbered here. No amount of threatening or fear propagating will help you on your quest to be a cop. If you can’t stand the heat and do the job you signed up for, get out the kitchen and quit yer bitchin.

  • Branden Etre

    Being one of the bigger pot dealers in my town I dealt with cops wanting me locked up more then anything when I was a teenager. I’ve dealt with harassment years after I stopped selling by only one cop sense. I will give the police credit I the fact that the majority of cops handled thing very civilly and didn’t violate any of my rights during the many times ive been arrested. When I had a gun pulled on me and was jumped by 14 people cops practically saved my life that day. With that being said I support the police.

  • R Brian Rogers

    You want to really fuk em up , Let them know you KNOW ABOUT LEGAL NAME FRAUD , if you don’t GOOGLE that shit , as more and more Americans wake up and realize that they are ALIVE and being held as a slave (all colors included) the shit will hit the Fan … or goto http://www.losethename.com and get educated . Walk away your life matters more than their Quota or Agenda …

  • John J Publicus

    My take? Go ahead and TRY to make your play. You’ll find more citizens against your little reindeer games than for. Then what will you do, kill us all?

  • Wilma

    Yeah, threatening force upon any citizen not immediately compliant to your every demand is bullshit. Your arrogance, intolerance and bullying are exactly the root of the problem. You don’t want this job? Go get another one. You are a civil servant. Try wrapping your mind around that and acting like one.
    You may end up getting treated with the respect you desire so badly you’re willing to kill for it.

  • agio

    Was this written by a 9 year old girl?

  • This guy has no respect for the Constitution of the United States of America. He can dish it out but the baby can’t take it. http://www.thefullcourtpress.org

  • Bill B

    This is the kind of planet of the apes logic that stumps progress and brings the entire human race backwards. The problem is not the 5% of bad cops giving you all a bad name, its the 95% of you “good cops” that doing nothing to stop it. And then the prosecutors and grand juries that excuse these bums from responsibility for their actions. Time and time again we see video evidence of police lying with no honor, no integrity and no accountability to cover up their actions. Instead of addressing the issue, you lobby for laws to make it illegal to video tape police, so that its easier for you to lie, cheat and steal. And I don’t see all you hard asses fighting crime in crime riddled areas, I see you taking the easy way, making criminals out of law abiding peaceful people (mostly motorists). The problem is not race. The problem is this police state you have hung around the rest of our necks that is the cause of the problem. The people of this country are sick and tired of the war of oppression being waged against them in every local, state and federal courtroom in the country by you extortionists. You want to know why cops are getting targeted and killed, there you have it. You are treading on an already taxed society. This government has fucked up the economy so bad people can’t even get work to feed their families – but somehow you police have billion dollar budgets and military gear so that you can extort to rest of what little money people have to pay through the courts to pay your inflated salaries. All of this is the name of justice, its offensive. Sounds like you are the one on notice pal. Just a reminder for you , while your looking for excuses to justify your job, Hitler’s guards were just as guilty as Hitler. I’ll be on the right side of history at the end.

  • Lily Gonzalez

    That little piggie looks like he’s ready to go to market. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_YgXH7hJs0&list=PLGAx3HDRlPWcoM-VmDhiAddoRZkoVxHpI&index=2

  • EG

    Enemy. Confirmed. We are Legion.

  • Jess Washburn

    Officers of River City,

    Who makes the determination of who are the supportive citizens and the dangerous, violent criminals? It seems to me that is the entire issue: People who are not posing any threats are being gunned down or otherwise brutalized, sometimes in their own homes, for no identifiable reason. If this were simply a case of police using force on a nationwide level, where force is just and needed; this is to say that if a member of the private sector is assaulting an officer or threatening/using force with a deadly weapon, then it then becomes logical for them to subdue a suspect in any manner they are able. Unfortunately sometimes that involves using force and, in what should be rare cases, may involve discharging a weapon. We the people do understand that sometimes force is needed to maintain order. (May I point you in the direction of “Bad Boys” and “Bad Boys 2” for a few examples of times it is ok to use your weapon in a public forum).
    HOWEVER THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE!
    The issue is violence for the sake of violence and power. Violence for the sake of personal vindication IS NOT JUSTICE and that sir is what the American public has had enough of! Your complete ignorance, or simple inability to understand the actual issues driving this force through our nation is paramount to the problem, and your notice to citizens that they will not be protected should be considered your resignation, as you are here to, as you have acknowledged, PROTECT AND SERVE! Once you attain the title of JUDGE may YOU decide who does and does not deserve punishment, then, and only then may you impose a penalty, to be set forth within the parameters of the United States government. If there is a gun pointed at you, by all means protect yourself, as in that situation your preservation is what will keep the population safe. If there is a mad gunman loose in my neighborhood I would expect you to keep my family, and the famies of my neighbors protected, by any means necessary. Who sirs, then remains to protect us when the aforementioned “mad gunman” has a badge and a vendetta?
    Respect and fearfully yours,
    Jess

  • EMHughes

    Wrong , you chickensh!t PIG bastard! It is YOU who are on notice, and your whole Thug Blue Line wth you. Your assaults and murders of innocent citizens is unacceptable and will no longer be tolerated. WE are not afraid of you. You have proven yourselves, time and time again, to be craven little schoolyard bullies in grown up bodies and silly uniforms; look around you, Jackwagon… we’ve got grown up bodies, too. You don’t intimidate us. Your authority comes from us, and we can take it back, at any time.

    I am not sure where you get the idea that you are judge, jury, and executioner on the streets, but please allow me to disabuse you of that idea; no suspect is “guilty” until their guilt is proved in a court of law… which means that EVERY person you kill in the street is innocent. YOU are the criminals — you don’t get to put US on notice. If you don’t like it, feel free to seek other employment. The PEOPLE have spoken.

  • s

    Right back at ya bad cops!! only had to change 2 words of that paragraph and this is how we feel when you act as judge, jury , and executioner on innocent people and their pets every single day. Stop stepping on our rights as HUMAN BEINGS and stop acting like cowards and killing our children while they play and maybe there would not be so much anger and resentment towards your gang in blue.

    {Dear Bad Cops}—we are done with you. At first it was good enough just to sit back and watch your ridiculous spectacle. No more. Now your rhetoric, lies and hate puts all of us,{foreigners }and citizens alike, in danger. From now on we will call you out each and every time you tell a lie, twist the truth or otherwise engage in vile behavior meant to push your selfish agendas. If your behavior or untruths causes harm to us or the public, we will make every attempt to have you investigated, charged and prosecuted at the local, state or federal level. Your idiocy and lies are what caused the destruction in Ferguson and other cities around our country and we won’t be tolerating that here. We watched in shock most recently as some of you flat out lied to the media after a critical incident here in Louisville. Many in the media are self serving too, and we watched as they stood on the sidelines and fanned the flames for financial gain.

  • Craig Lane

    Consider us all a threat to YOUR continued existence Mutchler. Whining little pig bitch.

    • Jess Washburn

      It’s things like this that these bad cops use to make their points. Violence only begets violence and threats are the fuel that propels their agenda.

      • Craig Lane

        Yes, responses to bullshit like what this pig wrote will be met with what??? more bad policing???? Bad cops don’t need to “use” anything. They have NO points to make. They are just bad cops. Since I don’t picture myself the boot-licking type. I say what I mean and feel because I still have that right. Their agenda, my friend, is subjugation over you and me and everyone that isn’t a cop. That sounds very little like “protect and serve”. Until the existence of our two-tiered justice system comes to an end, pigs will be pigs and I will be provoking them by pointing out that they work for us. Ideals are nice, history is violent. Once it’s you or one of your own, your mind will change. Like mine did.

  • Ed Bland

    People just don’t get it ! I have not and will not get a damn thing out of this ! What I get does not exist in this realm ! I do this to HEAL EARTH !
    ~ Things in “life” happen. It is the ACTIONS that we do because of those “things” that DEFINES us !
    ~ I “KNOW” exactly what it is that I am doing. WAKING THE “PEOPLE”! You “humans” keep sleeping !
    ~ I have been saying this for over 5 years, it will be 7 years since my wreck; . On 08-30-2008 I wrecked my motorbike, putting ribs into both lungs, killing me 3 times in life flight & putting me into an 87 day coma, waking with a 5.5 brain injury. That required me to go through rehabs relearning life. Once returning home, with next to no memory of my life, I had a friend ask me to get a medical card & try CANNABIS. I was amazed because not only did my memories start returning, but my THOUGHT PROCESS started working again. That made me research why. It is the blood that THC delivers with every HEAD RUSH
    Through “meditation” I have learned why I returned from the dead., It is to do HIS will & I do not try to tell others because they will not understand & want to call me a FAKE !

  • Stuffinpup

    Beating and murdering the infirm, the people of color, the homeless, the mentally unstable and the easy targets of society isn’t “law enforcement”. This is KKK in blue. It is criminal activity hiding behind a badge. No uniform should be allowed change application of the law against someone who commits needless, egregious harm.

    Civilians pay cops salaries and can and should expect much better from these men who do not act in the public interest, but instead aggrandize themselves as the supreme law unto themselves. For shame.

  • Tim McCoy

    Hitler put everyone on notice with Mein Kampf.

  • Stuffinpup

    Dave Mulcher, what would you say about THIS police activity?
    1) Entering without a warrant
    2) Destruction of property
    3) Petty larceny
    4) Obstructing investigation by removal of video cameras
    5) Assault
    6 ) False arrest

    https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/573285709479607/?pnref=story

  • Ken Warren

    Consider yourself on notice, pal. If police were more willing to police themselves & remove their bad eggs, the public would be a LOT more willing to forgive the occasional error or misunderstanding.

  • USEXPAT

    first off Mr officer, you look like a stereo type of a boy who couldn´t get in the military and now you want to play army. The day of reckoning has come upon the police of this country and the message is stop enforcing laws that are unjust, stop using violence when peaceful means can be used, stop policing for profit, stop tramppling on our civil rights and constitution, and finally hold yourselves accountable to your actions and be leaders not the others who think the same laws don´t apply to you. Stop fucking over everyday people as a business. until then cops are our enemy, they are the arms of the corrupt politicians we have in control, we need to work there too. but if police die in the process I will not shed one tear or give one fuck. Pigs, road pirates or the Largest gang in the US, your already on notice. straighten up and read the writing on the walls. Your time is limited.

  • palooka76

    How about you shut your donut hole and get busy arresting cops who murder people.

  • Jim Freire

    A warning like that in this corner of the left coast would see this guy out on his ass or much worse. They are not perfect but local LE is part of this community and does not separate itself from it. Not many officers here would tolerate that kind of arrogance to those served as he would be talking about their own families in some cases.In all this guys threats should be dealt with with a quickness and he should be relagated to unarmed mall cop

  • Siren Echos

    I find this ridiculously entertaining considering law enforcement works for us, the tax payers.. We are thier employers. The are nothing more than civil servants. Its like the boy in the mail room running his mouth to the shareholders..

  • Andy

    Lying shameless POS, spinning the facts and projecting his own violations and crimes against humanity onto the rest of us in this stupidly transparent political statement. It’s an age old police tactic used in the implementation of coverups and swaying public opinion. I promise you there is nothing sincere about this pigs statement other than his wish to criminalize those who wish to see him and others like him brought to justice. The problem with these cops is that they think the general public they despise behind closed doors are dumber than themselves. You lost your integrity a long time ago you murderous cowards. You treacherous POS. Oink! Oink! little piggy.

  • Derek Jude Tallman

    So, David, how many times did you stop a fellow officer from hitting a cuffed person? Or going off on someone for having an attitude? Or, did you walk away from that domestic violence situation because the wife beater was a “brother” and the wife wound up dead?

    Asshole, we want y’all to get rid of violent, alcoholic, thieving, steroid abusing, wife beating cops (the steroids, wife beating, and alcoholism all WELL above the norm for America). Did you ever stop to think that the high suicide rate amongst cops might be, outside of those about to go to jail for being scumbags, due to the “good” cops having a heavy conscience from watching assholes like you treat humans as animals? Nah, you don’t look like you think at all.

    Fuck off, Fascist.

  • Exador

    Those lying cellphone videos!

    • dufas_duck

      Cop to citizens…”Do you believe me or your lying eyes?” as everyone watches a handcuffed ‘suspect’ being held down by four officers and a fifth officer pumps five bullets into the suspect’s back… “We all feared for our lives” they echoed in cadence and were given another pass through police self investigation…….

  • misdirection

    So the “Fraternal Order of the Police” is now considered a Talmudic religion?

  • Dorian Mode

    And what is the Mayor, and city counsel take on this ?

  • Brett Ray

    To the cops, consider yourselves on notice also. I know you don’t believe it and you think you are somehow special or better and more deserving of life and safety than the normal person out there. Well guess what, you’re not! In truth, your life is worth no more than mine or anyone else, nor is your safety more important than mine. We have more reason than you to be in fear of our safety or lives than you when we meet. We don’t go into the meeting armed to the hilt with the attitude of, if they don’t comply take them out at all cost. If we did, we would take you guys out every time, because you NEVER comply and ALWAYS think everyone has to do what ever you say. You need to get this through your head, it’s not true. It works both ways, “If you actively resist or assault us, we will use every option available to take you into custody. If you use deadly force against us or use or attempt to use a dangerous instrument or deadly weapon against us, we will use deadly force against you”. All of you in Law Enforcement remember those words spoken not by a deranged citizen on the street, but by a cop. It is a CLEAR and real threat and should be taken as such. So keep it in mind, you “reap what you sow.”

  • Joel Nelson

    Mr. Mutchler needs to remember who is the employee and who is the employer. When someone is “on notice” in the workplace, that person is the employee, not the employer. Law enforcement officers are the employee, so they need to stop acting like an employer.

    Mr. Mutchler, this open letter you have written is the embodiment of the problem. Police, generally speaking, act like they are in charge. They are not. They work for us, the people. For the record, I do not seek that the police have any different level of integrity and dedication to serving the community than I do, I merely want police to stop committing acts of aggression. I don’t commit acts of aggression, and I expect police to not commit acts of aggression. It really is that simple.

  • BRAD BAKO

    Wear body cams at all times and you may be taken serious you self righteous mutt

  • Rework Oh Ryan

    “Your idiocy and lies are what caused the destruction in Ferguson and other cities around our country and we won’t be tolerating that here”

    Yeah, I’m sure it had nothing to do with Freddy Gray being murdered in police custody, right? Or John Crawford being shot and killed for carrying a BB gun he legally bought at Walmart, while still inside the store. Boy, we are sure unreasonable to want justice for a man who was choked to death for selling untaxed cigarettes. I’m sure to you, Officer Mutchler, everyone who sells untaxed cigarettes should face capital punishment, at the hands of the new judge, jury, and executioners, known as police. Where would we be without you brave cops to shoot 12 years olds with toy guns, and save us all! You are so brave.

    Now that my sarcasm is over, you are a piece of shit, who is too cowardly to server with a badge and gun, like the rest of your thugs in blue (black now, as your LEO community moves toward more militarization). We can protect ourselves, and face less threat of being gunned down by the real violent thugs on the street -the police. We put you on notice years ago, when we started informing the masses of your transgressions against the people. I’m glad you are finally noticing. Don’t expect it to stop until every corrupt, cowardly, thuggish cop is ousted from authority.

  • KGB

    I love how buddy says we all live under the same laws. Lmao . Also the police are suppose to be elected by the people through voting not hired

  • Mark Malone

    Am I supposed to be shaking in fear? Because I’m not. But apparently they are afraid of something.

  • Mark Malone

    As I posted on their Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/RiverCityFOP

    “Your ridiculous demands and anti-law enforcement attitude has reached a level that is unacceptable.”

    Oh, you mean demands like stop killing dogs, stop killing unarmed people, stop treating people like crap, stop breaking the law, take responsibility when you do break the law and man up to it, stop enforcing unjust laws, stop profiling people, not just by their race or gender, but by how they dress or what they drive. Stop doing stuff to make people hate you and you won’t have to worry about our “anti-law enforcement attitude”. It’s not anti-law enforcement. its PRO-FREEDOM. Until you can understand that, there will continue to be resentment toward all law enforcement. Start enforcing the right laws, and fight for freedom. Then you will be allowed the title of “police officer” Until then, you’re all just pigs.

  • leatherneck1775

    How bout you assholes stop confiscating peoples shit for no reason (civil forfeiture) and calling out the little punks with badges among your ranks, stop wasting people because your too lazy or chickenshit to apprehend them first, how bout you remember who you work for instead of paying lip service to it in your stupid letter. Maybe there are a relatively small percentage of bad cops but the fact that they are too pussy shit to discipline their ranks makes them all enemies of the republic. come and take it motherfucker

  • Bill Brink

    disgusting

  • Unpleasant. Aloof. Superiority syndrome. More than a little untrue.

  • Konrad Grünerzeiger
  • mark are

    Hey Mutchler…The whole good cop/bad cop question can be disposed of much more decisively. We need not enumerate what proportion of cops appears to be good or listen to someone’s anecdote about his Uncle Charlie, an allegedly good cop. We need only consider the following: (1) a cop’s job is to enforce the laws, all of them; (2) many of the laws are manifestly unjust, and some are even cruel and wicked; (3) therefore every cop has agreed to act as an enforcer for laws that are manifestly unjust or even cruel and wicked. Therefore there are no good cops. ~Dr. Robert Higgs

  • Jason Smith

    Sounds like this dude needs to get with the program.

  • momamazed

    What laws are you intending to break to come after us? Freedom of speech will now be restricted so that no one may criticize you? You work for me – I pay your salary. You have NO right to threaten me. But I’ll tell you one thing – I will not ever be calling on you because you are the scariest people in this country as far as I’m concerned.

  • Douglas Steward

    I HAVE FACTS TO BACK UP MY COMPALINTS AGAINST THE WHITE CRIMINAL REPUBLICANS THAT ALMOST MURDERED ME SEVERAL TIMES AND MURDERED MY FATHER JUAN EDWARD STEWARD OUT OF THE AIR FORCE!!! THEIR COHRT FBI/CIA CRIMINAL REPUBLICANS DO NOT WANT TO ALLOW THE TRUT HABOUT MY LIFE TO BE TOLD TO THE NEWS MEDIAS SO THEY HAVE BEED KEEPING ME A SECRET FOR ALMOST FORTY YEARS IN AMERICA SO THAT ALL OF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY CRIMES IT TOOK TO KEEP ME FROM BEING A SUCCESSFUL BLACK PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE IN AMERICA!!! LET ME GET SOME OF THE PUBLIC INVESTIGATIONS TO HAVE THE REAL TRUTH TOLD ABOUT MY LIFE AND QUIT HIDING BEHIND THE DEVILS LIES WIT HYOUR BADGES!!! YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE WHERE YOU END UP HATERS!!! TRUTH AND JUSTICE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ALL NOT JUST SOME!!! NO JUSTICE NO PEACE NO PEACE NO JUSTICE!!!

  • txjohn69

    If you are not careful, you may find yourself in agreement with this person; there is race baiting; there is hyperbole; there are criminals who seek to undermine law enforcement.

    HOWEVER, notice what is missing in this piece…notice how he only addresses accountability of criminals, liars, race baiters, sensationalists, etc.

    HE NEVER addresses the PROVEN and KNOWN cases of Police misconduct, excessive force, corruption, truly suspect racial or class considerations and those who destroy the public trust.

    He apparently is taking the position of infallibility…because he seeks and even demands support and approval.

    EVIDENTLY GOVERNMENT, at least law enforcement, no longer govern with the consent of those governed; evidently law enforcement is able to issue threats of violence and coercion to gain compliance.

    He attributes media attention and the disclosure of bad police conduct to sensationalism. He claims that 99% of all cops are good, “…ninety-nine percent of police officers serve with integrity and courage.”

    WAIT A DARN MINUTE. Does he claim that 99% of the General Public are good? Does he assert that 99% of the public have integrity and courage?

    HOW THEN CAN Police be 99% good, honest, courageous and integrity bound if he does not believe that the general population is such?

    How does the Police gain such a statistically disproportionate level of people bound to integrity?

    The fact of the matter is that any base of power attracts a disproportionately high percentage of those WITHOUT integrity; those who are drawn to power, privilege and position.

    The very excuse for having Police and Government and Laws is because of this human phenomenon.

    And when Police are less accountable than people in general; when Police answer to a different set of rules (with a lower standard of conduct); when that which is illegal for people is legal and SOP for Police…I’m sorry but the profession as a whole has destroyed the ability to operate with integrity…it’s very essence makes it impossible.

    Thus, we must acknowledge that when Police can act with near impunity, and they complain of transparency; they complain of dissent or opposition to their UNELECTED, non-democratic policies and bureaucracies…then they again demonstrate the lack of integrity.

    I take this man’s NOTICE to the people to be a threat; to be with intent to make those who question or object to Police policy, tactics, transparency and accountability to fear to continue.

    He has attributed all such people and cases as a some minority and equated or categorized us with “criminal elements…sensationalists…race baiters…” and states we are creating a “ridiculous spectacle” dishonest “rhetoric.”

    To deny, to not acknowledge…that there are problems within the Policing community…that Cops are not super heroes and posses not special immunity to corruption; only legal immunity from prosecution for corruption…then…

    I PUT MR. MULTCHLER ON NOTICE…that until he cleans his own house, he has no business DEMANDING silence or that anyone else cleans their own house.

    Be a doer of the word, Mr. Multchler, not a hearer and speaker only. You claim you seek to attain “freedom, safety and the ability to live our lives happily and without fear” while issues threats meant to impose fear.

    Mr. Multchler, you are not a man of integrity UNTIL you acknowledge that the problems you claim exist in the general population also exist within your Blue population.

    Because you obviously don’t make a case that 99% of people are honest, with integrity and courageous…and since you believe that Police are more noble than people, you also seem to treat us that way…less noble…suspect and as a threat to Police who seek a status above “those they protect” which is not protection, except in the context of a protection racket.

    Mr. Multchler, you do not get to dictate to me nor is that your post and position. But I do get to act in a way to have removed those individuals who seem to be of your beliefs.

    We do not have to accept what you say; we get to seek and demand change. YOU DO NOT GET TO DEMAND ANYTHING from the public; you only get to enforce laws; and the law is not for you to subjectively impose seeking your own ends.

  • Lee Lopez

    Fuck these cry baby mother fuckers. No sense, no logic to the thinking they have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TJ Learnihan

    Police Brutality and Abuse is no Longer the Exception, It is the Rule – It Is NOT A RACE ISSUE, BUT AN ABUSE & BRUTALITY ISSUE!!! COPS ARE JUST CRIMINALS IN A UNIFORM!!! NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER, TRUST A POLICE OFFICER!!!!!!!! NEVER!!!!! POLICE OFFICERS ARE CRIMINALS-BULLIES-LIARS-THIEVES-RAPISTS-MURDERERS-THUGS!!! Police Unions & Judges “On The Take” Are As Much To Blame As LEO’s!!! The Police Will Lie, Cheat, Deceive, Steal, Rape, Abuse, Harass, Entrap and otherwise do everything in their power , Legal Or NOT to make your life a living hell “I don’t remember the last time a cop ever helped me out of anything!” If you don’t have a device with video capabilities, GET ONE TODAY!!!! VIDEO EVERY SINGLE THING THEY DO AND SAY-TO YOU, TO YOUR FRIENDS, TO YOUR FAMILY, IN THE GENERAL POPULATION & PUBLIC!!!! THEY CAN’T HELP BUT DIG THEIR OWN GRAVES !!!! They will incriminate themselves just like they regularly attempt to get you to do!!!! Police Are Trained and Encouraged To Exhibit Severe Control & Dominance At All Times!!!! They have NO TRAINING in Mental Health or Physical or Mental Disabilities Interaction!!! They are trained and taught to Abuse, Dominate, Threaten, and Scare You!!! NEVER GIVE A POLICE OFFICER ANY INFORMATION – DONT ANSWER QUESTIONS-MAKE THEM PROVE EVERYTHING!!!! EVEN IF THREATENED WITH ARREST OR ARRESTED. THEY WILL USE EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE AGAINST YOU!!!!! If They Threaten You or Your Family or Friends, Shoot Them & Shoot To Kill,…..They Would, and They Do!!!!!!!

  • Travis Steinhaus

    its retarded statements like this that encourage my anti-cop antics, my position of being anti-cop is a result of having been the victim of crime and having no justice so instead of accosting people who merely want to reform those crappy policies that cause all these criminals to fall through the cracks to keep hippy stoners and impoverished people behind bars, instead of the real killers and rapists, so understand this pig were on the same side for reforms to policy and as a taxpayer you work for me and I demand these reforms to keep real criminals behind bars and let the petty bullshit of people living their lives in abnormal but nonviolent or non-threatening manners be left well enough alone. is it really to much to ask that people who aren’t picking fights stealing or doing harm to other people or property be left in peace is it too much to ask that when you guys make mistakes that you make the people you inadvertently harmed whole again, what do you cops have against body cameras its merely evidence to support your cases when they go to trial and visa-versa, so the bad cops who belong in jail aren’t fully reflected as being the whole of law enforcement, as a person who pays your salary I demand that you guys cut the bullshit and keep things simple and as non-physical as possible, and start being the shining light of good examples to follow rather than the “respect my authority” jackboot thug bullshit that causes such disrespect I would now like to refer all law enforcement to the bill of rights if what you do doesn’t comply with those ten laws the first laws all americans must abide by than your in fact the criminals for doing such things and unworthy of the public trust respect and deserving nothing other than to be forced to dig your own graves and given two to the head for treason because going rogue against the constitution is exactly that and any real cop would embrace their status of being expendable for the public good because that’s what peace officers are for to risk it all so others wont have too, so if you don’t like having we the people critic you and your fellow cops than maybe you should get a different job because the critic is a part of the job

  • T.j. Learnihan

    Police Brutality and Abuse is no Longer the Exception, It is the Rule – It Is NOT A RACE ISSUE, BUT AN ABUSE & BRUTALITY ISSUE!!! COPS ARE JUST CRIMINALS IN A UNIFORM!!! NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER, TRUST A POLICE OFFICER!!!!!!!! NEVER!!!!! POLICE OFFICERS ARE CRIMINALS-BULLIES-LIARS-THIEVES-RAPISTS-MURDERERS-THUGS!!! Police Unions & Judges “On The Take” Are As Much To Blame As LEO’s!!! The Police Will Lie, Cheat, Deceive, Steal, Rape, Abuse, Harass, Entrap and otherwise do everything in their power , Legal Or NOT to make your life a living hell “I don’t remember the last time a cop ever helped me out of anything!” If you don’t have a device with video capabilities, GET ONE TODAY!!!! VIDEO EVERY SINGLE THING THEY DO AND SAY-TO YOU, TO YOUR FRIENDS, TO YOUR FAMILY, IN THE GENERAL POPULATION & PUBLIC!!!! THEY CAN’T HELP BUT DIG THEIR OWN GRAVES !!!! They will incriminate themselves just like they regularly attempt to get you to do!!!! Police Are Trained and Encouraged To Exhibit Severe Control & Dominance At All Times!!!! They have NO TRAINING in Mental Health or Physical or Mental Disabilities Interaction!!! They are trained and taught to Abuse, Dominate, Threaten, and Scare You!!! NEVER GIVE A POLICE OFFICER ANY INFORMATION – DONT ANSWER QUESTIONS-MAKE THEM PROVE EVERYTHING!!!! EVEN IF THREATENED WITH ARREST OR ARRESTED. THEY WILL USE EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE AGAINST YOU!!!!! If They Threaten You or Your Family or Friends, Shoot Them & Shoot To Kill,…..They Would, and They Do!!!!!!!

    • Chumscrubber

      Truth Bomb!

  • peterdybing

    He is correct we need to be focusing on those who commit crimes, especally police who commit crimes as they should be held to a higher standard.

  • John Boone III

    Ha fuck him, another dumbass cop you are not the law fuck head.

  • Disempowered? You get millions of dollars of surplus MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS with barely any training. You are horrid. Your statements are the hate speech and fear mongering that you so hate. Cops like you have no business being in law enforcement. You’re the biggest gang in the world. More than 1% of you is corrupt and power hungry. WE REFUSE TO LIVE IN A POLICE STATE. THIS IS NOT HUNGAR GAMES. You need to retire. NOW.

    • Neal Feldman

      Not anymore they don’t.

      Now the military needs to go and collect the GI Joe toys from the little boys and girls in blue.

  • To those on this thread: I love you. I am not sure I have ever been on a thread where everyone agreed. This means that we have come together and are united. For it is us that need to put Dave and his officers who support this letter on notice. He should be brought up for terroristic threatening.

    • Neal Feldman

      You had to jinx it, didn’t you? lol

      • I was not going to say something thinking it may jinx it, but then thought I was safe!

  • John Doe

    To everyone bashing these officers, you are a joke. The amount of good police officers do far outweighs the bad but because of all of your soft 2015 viewpoints all that is covered is the idea that police are brutal and corrupt. Figure it out, if someone breaks into your house, assaults you, robs you, etc. you know for a fact you’re calling the police. Dont be a hypocrite, if you’re going to bash them then the next time someone breaks a law and it has a negative effect on you how about you deal with it yourself. Try not calling 911 and see how that’s works out for you. And if you decide to indeed be a hypocrite and call the cops when you need them for whatever reason, I hope they leave you there to fend for yourself, by yourself. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you ladies and gentlemen. Go back to your pencil pushing job or even worse, collecting your welfare check sitting on your ass, and leave patrolling the streets and enforcing laws to those who actually know how to do it.

    • Neal Feldman

      You are the joke… and a pretty bad one at that.

      If the number of good officers so greatly outnumbered the bad ones there would be no more bad ones. But along with the overtly bad ones are all those who witness wrongdoing by the bad actors and do NOTHING. They are just as bad and equally culpable.

      There is a significant difference between good outweighing the bad and it excusing the bad. NOTHING excuses the bad.

      The thugs with badges ARE brutal and corrupt. What are you? Blind? Or are you just a devoted copsucker?

      “if someone breaks into your house, assaults you, robs you, etc. you know for a fact you’re calling the police.”

      Maybe, maybe not, but calling the police will not travel back in time to prevent these events, and the existence of the police clearly did not prevent the events fr4om happening. The only point would be documentation. How would that make me safer?

      I will point out the unpunished crimes of criminal cops until your alleged ‘good cops’ stop them and see them punished by dropping ‘qualified immunity’ from police union contracts.

      No hypocrisy at all. I PAY FOR those services so I am allowed to access those services. This in no way eliminates or curtails my right to speak out about corruption and criminality in those services. Apparently you are some special kind of retarded for you to not comprehend this.

      In what way do thugs with badges ‘feed me’, hmmm?

      I would love to ‘leave patrolling the streets and enforcing laws to those who actually know how to do it.” Problem is that those currently doing the job do not qualify as such.

      Think of it this way… police have worse customer service ratings than even Comcast or Time/Warner.

    • JibsMan

      John Doe, Someone breaks into my house I shoot them. THEN I have to call the cops. No choice. THEN I have to worry about getting shot when they show up. I will NEVER call the cops unless required by Law.

  • Neal Feldman

    You and your ilk have brought this upon yourselves. Your murdering, raping, kidnapping and assaulting citizens indiscriminately and without accountability. Your militarized SWAT raids to simply serve a warrant… to the wrong house… traumatizing the wrong people. Your needless murdering of family pets and service animals because you are such raging chicken-shit dickless little wussbag cowards (unlike USPS, UPS, FedEx, utility workers and the rest) you are terrified and ‘in fear for your life’ when the wind blows or a 3 lb Chihuahua wags its tail. Your violating the constitutional rights of citizens through the institutionalized theft that is ‘civil asset forfeiture’.

    You think your ilk are deserving of respect? You morons lost the respect that had been advanced to you by your actions (list above as well as not listed). You get no respect because you earn no respect. All you get is fear, but you know that owing to the threatening nature of your little note.

    You and your ilk have become nothing but bullies and tyrants, and you are aware, are you not, of what eventually becomes of nearly all tyrants, right?

    I think it is YOU who are ‘on notice’. Get used to it. You have lost the support of the governed which leaves you with no authority other than brute force… and there are far more opposed to you than there are of you.

    Oooohhh the wind just blew… you must be truly terrified ‘in fear for your life’, hmmm?

  • S.R Lee

    David Mutchler, I hope that you or any of your scumbag comrades in agreement with you are reading these comments. It is YOU and your fascist jack-booted thug mentality that is on notice, dirtbag. You might as well stop propagandizing and race baiting, because your lies and rationalizations are no longer believable. YOU and people like YOU are THE PROBLEM.

  • Starla Anne Lowry

    Sir, if you are opposed to the criminal element, police yourself and rid yourselves of your criminals. When the police can tell me that they do not have to abide by the Constitution of the United States and they can do whatever they want because they are the police — they are criminals. The Constitution is law whether you like it or not !! I hereby certify that the exact words when confronted with the Constitution were: “We are the police. We can do what we want to.” I used to have respect for law officers. They were my neighbors. They were polite, but aggressive when necessary. They were not the bullies we had in school. We still have some good cops, but too many criminals seem to have infiltrated the force and the good cops need to stop taking up for the bad cops and agreeing with everything the bad ones say in court when it is a lie and they know it. You know a judge will accept the testimony of a police officer even against the best Christian person in town. They are prejudiced that way. It will be a long road, but the police can regain the respect they should have if they would just clean house. We need honest and reliable police officers. Our neighborhoods need them. Our families need them.

  • 19peter54

    Police your own ranks first before you get on that soapbox. That way, videos will be few and far between. Increase your hiring standards, and demand only the top 15% of candidates be allowed to become officers. Select officers only from the cream of the crop rather than from lesser candidates. And stop this militarizatin of our police forces. What message does it send when our cops emulate out soldiers.

  • Eric Preston

    Dave, the problem isn’t citizens sick of being brutalized, it is police not admitting there is a problem within, taking responsibility for it, and putting together a real plan to get rid of those that are criminals in uniform and making sure no new ones get to wear one. There are many good cops that want to get rid of the bad ones, you don’t seem like one of them.

  • Brock Lee

    The other day we had one who made a video saying to the extent they was our friends and wanted it to be peaceful and that there was some good cops,and now u come on like a water headed pig and threatning us,and now across the nation ur ratings as pigs have dropped to 52% and going down more so what do u make of that, u r the killers of innocent people and u will pay one day when u stand b-4 GOD,,and how do u justify any cop killing a 17 yo boy shooting him 7 times,tell us we would like to know how u sleep,,

  • W. J. G.

    “will no longer stand on the sidelines while anyone continues to assault and demonize us.”

    We’re not “demonizing” you. You’re doing a perfectly good job of demonizing yourself.

    This sort of McCarthyist witchhunt nonsense is exactly why people increasingly mistrust the police. This ridiculous idea that tries to transmute any criticism into you trying to investigate and charge anybody who dares speak out does a far greater job of demonizing you than anything anybody on the side of police reform could do.

    You’ve exposed yourself to be a totalitarian with this open letter. You’ve exposed your fundamental doublethink and doublespeak.

    So as someone who supports police reform, thank you for your bumbling ignorance which does more to support my cause than anything I could say or do here.

  • Terry Rodeback

    This guy really doesnt get it at all.You are the problem not me and the other americans that just want police to live under the same laws they enforce on us.Why is that so hard to understand?

  • Mr. Hand

    I take that as a threat.

  • M T

    Why aren’t they, the officers involved, accountable then when they too break the law?

    I found this open letter as more of a threat than an accountability statement for citizens and officers alike.

    You sir, you authored this and thus shows how much of a part of the problem you personally contribute too.

  • Gary Williams Jr.

    so in case you missed it, they are threatening civil war/massacre of “the small”….there’s your freedom

  • Jay Vincent

    Hey boy.

  • Robert Balsavage

    This is a message to the Police, to the military, to the TSA, to Homeland Security and to members of every other enforcement arm of the government…………..I know that most of you chose the life in uniform because you love your country; because you believed in what that uniform stood for; because you wanted to serve and protect… but I also know that deep down inside you sense that something has gone terribly wrong.

    You’ve watched with the rest of us as elected officials have incrementally legislated our constitutional rights away, you’ve watched as the state surveillance apparatus has expanded like a cancer through the heart of the nation, and you’ve watched as the corruption has become more and more blatant. I can understand why you haven’t wanted to acknowledge the implications of what you are witnessing. To face the reality of what is happening would mean admitting that you’ve been betrayed, and it would mean coming to terms with the fact that you… are working… for criminals.

    I don’t envy your position. I know your job depends on you following orders. I know you have families to support and bills to pay, and I know that if you stand up you could loose everything… but what you need to understand is that continuing to submit to unconstitutional, and immoral orders will not protect you from what is coming.

    You may tell yourself that you will take a draw your line in the sand later, that there is a certain point where you will say no, but in reality, you crossed the line a long time ago. You are standing on the wrong side of history right now. You are already participating in the destruction of this country, in the trampling of our rights, of your children’s rights, and grandchildren’s rights. You are the enforcement arm of a criminal enterprise, you are a servant of a rapidly expanding police state, and you DO have a choice.

    I’m not telling you this to condemn you. I’m telling you this because we the people desperately need you to take a stand. We desperately need you to have the courage to face your commanding officers, and tell them no, I didn’t sign up for this. No this isn’t right. No, I will not obey these unlawful orders.

    You took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Time to start taking that oath seriously.

  • Julian Blair Lambert

    I can respect to a point why this policeman is frustrated with criminals and certain elements of the public, but…

    With a huge but at that: he needs to appreciate why the public feels it’s necessary to not be tazed until hearts stop and/or be maced until even the most seasoned of Mexicans start farting fire from the overload of pepper spray. Let’s not forget the individuals who rebel by peaceful demonstration–I don’t think those people need to have their heads bounced on concrete like any other basketball. I also refuse to think not showing your license when no wrong doing has happened deserves any or all of the above as the person causing such an overpowered physical persona needs to be checked from time to time. Other than these stipulations, yeah, they should continue serving the public by ridding our society of its criminal element which include the police eliminating the need for tanks and let’s reinforce the need to descalate by the form of asking questions now, shoot only if there’s a credible lethal threat.

    No, you’re on notice, sir.

  • Kelly Caudill
  • bitcop

    All I want, is for law enforcement to be Oath Keepers. The must, first and foremost, honor their oath to the Constitution of the United States of America.

  • pyrodice

    I’ll believe you have a desire to do your fucking job and make us safer when you demonstrate it by bringing justice to all those cowering behind your “thin blue line”, and your unions.

  • Sam Cru

    Just another gang member losing grip on his territory making threats. Nothing new here.

  • John Dickinson

    Dave: Talk is cheap. Do you recall Warren V. District of Columbia? The summary of the case is police have no duty to protect anyone. Can you put your money where your mouth is, and prove your department will truly serve and protect the public? Will you serve fewer bullshit tickets, and increase your work on cases that would bring real criminals to justice? Will we, the normal Joes and Jills, no longer be considered enemy combatants? Will you attempt to de-escalate tense situations, instead of bringing things to a boiling point? Will you stop following orders, and let some humanity come into your enforcement?

    Our list of grievances is long against police in general. It’s not that the general public doesn’t want to trust you… They are unable to. With additional stories of police breaking laws, conducting raids, joking about how they should have beat someone who was restrained, and constantly shooting 4 legged family members, why should we trust someone with the shiny badge? How about the cases where officers are raping underage girls and getting very lenient penalties?

  • rweston

    police have killed almost four people per day so far this year, and only one in a thousand of those cases is the officer charged with murder. as far as putting their lives in danger, so far this year every confirmed* cop killer in this country has been another cop themselves except for one isolated case. intimidation for the purpose of power, disgusting.

  • Robert Ramrattan

    Sounds like he is threatening those who hold police accountable for their actions. He needs to understand one thing: he states that “We are not your punching bag and we will not simply stand by and accept your verbal or physical assaults. .” If you were a good cop, you would realize that this is part of your job. It is NOT your job to swagger into bad situations, demand people obey you without making an effort to see or understand what’s going on and then not comprehend why people resent you for doing so. If you were a good cop, you would not have other cops investigate your frequent allegations of misconduct but would insist on an unbiased panel to do so.
    Perhaps people would be more supportive of the police as a whole if:
    – they weren’t a roving band of thugs and gangsters in their gang uniform
    – if they didn’t kill people’s pets and then claim that they “feared for their lives.” My letter carrier encounters at least half a dozen dogs on my block alone and as far as I know, has not killed or even shot at one of them.
    – If the police didn’t use fear, threats, and intimidation as tactics to elicit an otherwise false confession
    – If the departments did not hire individuals with lower-than-average Intelligence Quotients who possess a psychopathic subservience to the concept of Authority
    – If the Police did not act as though their oaths of allegiance to “king and country” abdicated the abandonment of the character, courage, and conscience they claim to possess, and use it to absolve themselves of all wrongdoing
    – If the police were truly people of Morality, intelligence, compassion, and decency who understand that Legality and Morality are not the same thing
    – if they did not become openly provocative to escalate tense situations into bad situations, and bad situations into fatal situations.
    – if only they were not permitted to openly lie in court to further the State’s case
    – if only they truly earned respect instead of demanding it
    then maybe this wouldn’t even need to be a problem.

  • Jean

    Whatever happened to the friendly beat cop that helped old ladies and kids across busy streets?

  • nerys

    Open statement to Lodge 614. Learn your place as a servant to preserve protect and defend the constitution of these united states or you will be taught your place.

    you will accept any verbal assault we give you as is your duty and your sworn oath. no one should have to accept physical abuse.

    stop acting like mafia thugs out of control and start doing your jobs and you won’t have any problem from the likes of me. Start CLEANING YOUR OWN HOUSE of the rats and rotten apples amongst you. Stop shielding the filth in your own ranks.

    then you will earn our respect.

    I am not anti law enforcement. I simply do not recognize the filth and thugs among you as “law enforcement” but criminals operating under the color of law. even worse than criminals.

    Clean up your own shit or we the citizens will clean it for you. and we won’t ask twice.

    Joe Citizen.
    United States of America.

    • fisharmor .

      He is not laboring under any false impression as to the role of cops. This is what they do, and he is a perfect example of a cop. This is what they have always been. He does not need to learn his place: you need to learn that this is the job.
      You can accept the job for what it is, or you can work to abolish it. Thosd are your only logical choices. Expecting him suddenly to be something they never were for all 170 years of the existence of police is simply not an option.

  • Russell Roseman

    If YOUR department has NOTHING to HIDE, then you should WELCOME CITIZEN JOURNALISTS documenting how well you SERVE the public.

  • Susan Dorado

    Take your letter and put it where the sun don’t shine. You ARE the problem.

  • Rogmen

    FUCK YOU, you are nothing more than merceneries to the upper class, you create crime, and we DO NOT FEAR YOU. I’ll wait for you in the streets, bitch.

  • Russell Roseman

    You also failed to mention Defenind and Protecting the Constitution of the United Staes of America: Therefore, You Sir, are a DOMESTIC TERRORIST!

  • Issac Abrams

    In other words, “we, the cops, are pissed off because… although we have used excessive force, slaughtered, paralyzed, suffocation and even shot/killed dogs when they were not a threat….. we still don’t think you should say a d*mn thing about it “

  • Russell Roseman

    Another thing. I worked as a Paramadic for over 20 years. I witnessed abuse, lies, fraud, co-ehersion etc by COPS. Most cops I have ever dealt with are thugs that feel they are above the law. There are a few that I highly respect, but most I wouldn’t piss on if they were on fire. I was rarely able to rely on Cops when in dangerous situations. It was always my EMS and FIRE Brothers that protected me. Twice I was allowed into an active shooter situation with no Police Presence or “Protection”. Cops are one of the main reasons I began to hate being a Paramedic and finally chose to leave the profession. Complaining to abuses seen to my supervisors led to me being constantly “investigated”. The system is a total scam. I refused to do forced blood draws, allowable under State Law. And, in many cases when doing blood draws, the Legal Kits were expired by date. I would inform any person that had a consent blood draw that the kit was expired. It is not too hard to look at the expiration date. And for cops that want to shoot dogs just to be “Rambo”, in 20 + years, I have NEVER had a threat from a dog. I did have one encounter with a Peacock. It would not yield right of way. I had another with a duck. It was very friendly. YOU COPS have CREATED you own IMAGE!

  • Travis

    Whats wrong guys… you can dish it out but cant take it? What did you expect? I will agree there are alot of bad cops out there… but if you were honest and productive members of society you would not ever have to deal with cops. It is that simple.

    • fisharmor .

      I guess you’ve never had to shell out 6 grand in legal fees and spend months talking to cps because your 7yo daughter walked around the block by herself. Until something like that happens to you maybe you should STFU about how normal people dont have ro deal with the cops.

    • Sam

      What’s even more simple to comprehend, is that you are oblivious to what is Society and what is a cop. By the way, what was your intended meaning for being honest ? Where you perhaps associating that word with people who are presumed to be liable for things such as, paying an Income Tax on their compensation they receive for the services they render, when that compensation is not profit derived from any source ? Maybe a coloring book and crayons would better suit your level of comprehension. LOL! Adios Pendejo.

      • Sam

        Oops. I misspelled a word. Can you find it ?

        • Chumscrubber

          Where? ; )

  • Daniel Savio

    Worthless sack of $#!%.

  • fisharmor .

    As long as we’re calling out lies, Dave, why do you repeatedly insist that it’s your job to protect the populace? I’m not even a lawyer and I know of three different Supreme Court decisions that say it’s not your job to protect people. I didn’t even bother reading the balance of your tirade, because it’s all based on a lie. Not just a lie… the big lie, the one that keeps people from seeing the uncomfortable truth. Which is that if it’s in writing that your job isn’t to protect, then it has to be something else. Of course you can’t have anyone really trying to figure out what it really is, because when they do, they quickly figure out they don’t want ANYONE doing that job, let alone tinpot dictators like you.

  • Nobody

    Note that were a mere mundane to issue such a letter to the police, he would be lucky to see the inside of a jail cell in short order. More likely, he would be simply exterminated.

    This Mutchler character seems a big mouthed, ignorant, knot-headed hypocrite who apparently thinks he is some sort of badass. His letter reads like something a bit too close to a declaration of war. Good luck with that, you’re going to need it. He apparently fears and loathes free speech – how typical of the lapdog class, all the while calling what they do “service”. Sure, but to whom? Certainly not the citizens.

    Let him write his letters, all full of bluster, implied threats, and chest-beating nonsense. We may one day decide to hold you police accountable for the things you do. Rue that day when it comes because we will not be kind to you, though we will be just.

  • Russell Roseman

    Apparently Richard Skaggs has got his panties in a bunch by some of my comments. Don’t ya hate it when cops pak in Handicap spaces and fire lanes? Don’t ya hate it when they dress to impress, try to intimidate? Then they pussy down saying that In June,1985 the US Supreme ruled that it is not the job of the police to protec(t) anyone . So what the F&%$ do taxpayers waste money on these parasites for?

  • Dianne Richardson

    Nothing has to be said about this man. The white man is so hateful and vicious. The ones that hate President Obama. They have circle their wagons of contemp and it is open season on black people. I know that this do include all white people. If you see what I see daily on the news. Then what this white man is saying to people of color..see we can do what we want to you and nothing will happen to us. So let’s be clear until President Obama get the hell out the White House, it is open season on anyone…Even with the whole world watching. To bad nobody give a damn.

  • willie wiggins

    Dave Mutchler,not sure but sounds Irish and that “box” head shape n red hair good signs.The Irish, Italians,Russians and many other ethnics have always,always HATED blacks n others to try validate their own importance etc.D.M,who are you speaking too,who is your target audience?
    It is obvious you want to scream nigga ,nigga nigga at top of your lungs!You sir will do nothing in the fight cause you have the biggest “bark” I can also hear the fear in your voice.you are not fooling anyone. (F.O.P) fraternal order will abandon you and leave you
    twisting and blowing in the wind! I doubt you a member.Get rid of some of that HATE in your heart.stop looking at color,look for character.
    Civil disobedience got your attention…right?

  • Mister Oh

    You don’t get to complain about HOW you are perceived as a PUBLIC servant.
    If these bastards don’t like how they’re being perceived.
    QUIT.

  • Von Ace

    This guy lost me in the first sentence lol. “To the public we serve.” I
    didn’t know serving people involves threatening those who disagree with
    you, wow. Way to protect and serve the people. Imagine the server at
    Olive Garden giving you a vague threat if you don’t like his or her
    service. What a typical narcissist. It’s not our fault, it’s your fault.
    Be amazed at the arrogance of Mr. Fat Face. Sorry bro, you don’t serve
    or protect us. You and your fraternal brothers of bullies serve and
    protect the authority of the ruling class. The only authority you band
    of thugs get is derived from the legal criminals in Washington.

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  • Neil

    Fraternal Order of Police? I think the police have officially declared war on the U.S. public.

  • Bob Watson

    Tell this guy to go F00K Himself! He fails to mention that you (the police) ARE NOT THERE to “Protect and Serve” the citizens, rather the State. Someone could be murdered in front of you cops, and possibly go for you next…and even you’re standing just 10 feet away, YOU DO NOT have to “protect and serve” anyone, in any way. You can just turn around and walk away and you won’t be responsible for anything at all.

    YOU also fail to mention that all of the tickets written, those incarcerated, generate revenue which is Big Business in America! So F$$K Louisiana!

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  • Jamie Patrosso-Pletka

    The majority of sane people are not “anti-law enforcement.” It’s called get off your high horse power trips!! Stop letting your authority to PROTECT AND SERVE go to your head & make you think it means you have the authority to control people & throw your weight around just to prove you can! Policing has truely become one BIG FAT power trip for most of you who are out there earning the “PIGS” title! I don’t normally comment on this side of the fence but if you’re going to stoop down & challenge American citizens as if you’re God then I pray you know what you’re getting us all into you ignorant fuck!

    • fisharmor .

      As long as the majority of people are not anti police, this will continue to happen. The things we see are their job. They have always been their job. This is what police do.

  • Teresa Ward

    Perhaps you need to take another look at what is considered a threat or someone just holding the keys to their house in their hand. The ignorance and the bullying, the killing of innocent people and dog piling on someone who has given up and is peacefully willing to put up with you -well it has to stop. So, bring it Dave. See yourself and your ways to the door and leave the job some of you were just no good at in the first place.

  • Viking from Red Bank

    Right on!

  • Ian Richardson

    I’ve seen good cops, and I’ve seen bad cops. Then I’ve seen videos from St. Louis Missouri. I’m not impressed. You want to see a responsible police force? Come to Fort Wayne Indiana. We just had the first police related death in our city in three years. The man they shot answered his door with a handgun, and wouldn’t put it down.

    Our police cheif: “It’s not an incident we will sweep under the cobwebs,” he said. “We want to be transparent.”

    They even went so far as to have State Police investigate the shooting instead of doing the investigation internally.

  • SAM

    Dave Mulcher, you are on notice. If you and your fellow officers continue to excuse, rationalize , justify, and silently condone the actions of bad cops ; we, as Americans, will do everything in our power to come for your jobs, your badges, and your paychecks. You work for us, and we are ready to remind you of that. Stand up to, snitch out, and decry the bad actions of the 1% bad cops. By your estimation 1% of cops in America are bad apples. That’s approximately 9000 officers. It’s time you said something, and did something about it.

  • peterathome

    “We know that the vast majority of you see that ninety-nine percent of police officers serve with integrity and courage.” ok, then get rid of the <1% that do not. The public cannot do this, only the other police can. problem solved

  • ericmccowan

    Here is what it would look like, if the above letter was written to the police, instead of the citizens: http://www.copscaughtontape.com/headline/dave_mutchler_open_letter_written_towards_police/

  • jwhitehawke

    Your message of fear without (your) fear of retribution is common with many cops nowadays.
    I have seen your type in action and, when I read a about a cop getting killed, though it’s not right, I would hope the cop was one with your mental disposition and not a REAL public servant.
    If I was the mayor I would have ‘disposed’ of you right after your letter was put out.

    In short; gfys.

  • Teresa Roberts

    America, you’re on notice. This is what happens when you screen out intelligence and compassion in the hiring process… there’s no one to promote from within who’s capable of running things and the school of blind obedience rules the day. We’re crazy if we listen to the guys who no longer take an oath to protect and serve us and who have forgotten they are public servants, not large and in charge. America stand up and clean up. Sign the petition to bring back the oath and to stop screening out intelligence and compassion. Our hiring, training and retention standards have GOT to be revised so we don’t end up with people like Dave Mutchler this running things.
    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Police_can_be_improved_Stop_screening_out_the_best_and_brightest_to_serve/?pv=7

    • fisharmor .

      Andy Taylor is a fictional character. He was a fictional character back then, too. Cops have never been any different, all the way back to the first cops in the 1840s. The evidence for this is all there if you just recognize it. And until everyone recognizes that this means reform is impossible, there will never be change.

  • Tim Carlson

    “Your flawed logic and lack of reason regarding events that occur in our society makes you appear stunningly inept. Let me help you. All citizens in Louisville, regardless of race, creed, color, gender or national origin have the SAME rights and responsibilities. No one gets a separate set of rules.”

    Except the police. They can shoot, choke, punch, kick and kill us and never have to go to tail for murder. So how can you say that all citizens are the same. You so called “law enforcement” are citizens too. If a police officer kills ANYONE there should be a murder trail where a jury can decide if an officer acted wrong or if he was justified in killing another American.

    So don’t say everyone is treated the same and has the same set of rules. You know that is wrong. You are the one who is inept if you truly believe this statement.

    I’m not afraid of saying that police have way too much power. I want that to change. I want police to be held accountable for THEIR actions.

    You are putting me on notice because I see a huge problem in this country I love and you don’t want to see change because then you will no longer be able to kill unarmed citizens and get off scott free. Your tactics sicken me and your statement is narrow minded.

  • phuc_yaul

    Police unions are the epitome of Organized Crime ! Fuck The Cops, you would be better off calling a Crack Head !

  • carl56

    This guy should be fired for threatening the public he pretends to serve.

  • Ike G. Erwin Myers

    That fat piece of shit couldn’t catch a cold. These guys keep talking like they have people behind them, when in reality, no one supports them, but themselves. Fuck, even his fellow fat fuck Chris Christie, wont even pay their pension. So go ahead fat boy, try to fuck with people with a krispy kreme donut stuffed in your mouth and one in your holster.

  • Jason Michael Baumgartner

    And people wonder why there is more and more growing anger towards the “police.” Go to any police oriented bulletin board and you’ll see a huge “us vs. them” attitude. I guess they have forgotten who they’re supposed to serve and now believe themselves to be judge, jury and executioner rolled up into one.

    Put me on notice, you fat son of a bitch. Why don’t you go eat another doughnut and work off some of that baby fat on your face. Your threats mean nothing to me.

  • me

    Piece of Sh*t pig, you’ll get yours soon enough,
    let the people stand up, push us more please,
    I cant wait to watch you crumble into a pool of pee and tears as you cower
    trying to hide who you are when the time comes,
    I cant wait for revolution, and your on the other side you piece of sh*t pig
    I bet you hide your uniform and try and pretend your not LEO
    I’m sure you’ll be the first,
    spout all you want, but it is you who is on notice, the time is coming pig!

  • I do not know anyone demonizing police. People are criticizing criminal behavior by some people wearing police uniforms.

  • wolfenii

    This is the club Mutchler belongs to. No balls to do anything unless there are 10 or more for them to show off for. I have NO use for for these armed parasites. They have NO usefulness to the public at large, only revenue generators for the elite.

    By themselves their portrait is below

  • Dave Mutchler, lets start with the look. You are an overweight fucktard. Lose some weight and stop playing into your membership with these stupid words. Your rhetoric is tiresome and I’m yawning. I’ll bet you reread your garbage over and over again because it sounded so tough. LOL If you believe that a small group thinks you all are an out of control uniformed gang then wow, you need to come out of that protective bubble you’re in. Your authority comes from law, and if a citizen isn’t breaking a law, then you have NO AUTHORITY. If a citizen doesnt want to talk to you then shoo. If a citizen says NO to your “I’m asking for your ID” then shoo. We the citizens are sick and tired of your bullshit, and we are sick and tired of the double standards. You want to fight crime then please do, go fight crime and respect the peoples rights. Even the “bad” peoples rights.

    We are also sick and tired of you all with your sexual perversion on our women and children. You fucks are so drunk on power that you all feel you can do whatever you want. No more dumbass, we are sick of the bullshit. You want to control the populace, fat boy, then move to north Korea. But in MY COUNTRY America, you will not ever control us. Never! If it’s a war you want, it’s a war you will have. The only difference at least with me is I’ll have a camera against your pussy ass guns. I’ll shoot the truth, you on the other hand will shoot to silence. FUCK YOU, WE WONT BE SILENCED! https://www.facebook.com/PoliceOfficersRapingKids?fref=ts

  • Woodstuck

    When you have to follow the same laws we do – Well, then maybe you can speak up about the attitude of the public brought on by 99.9% good cops (I threw up a little in my mouth) we never see vacating the crappy and criminal ones we all know exist.

    • pgeller

      Nope. The actual good cops, the whistleblowers, are the only ones actually fired and losing their pension. Not to mention many have had criminal acts instituted upon them by their departments after coming forward.

  • 062014

    What is “criminal element”? I was threatened with arrest because I was told to take two steps back on the grass. Does selling loose cigarettes to coworkers mean I’m criminal? I’ve “inhaled”, does that make me a part of the “criminal element”? If I see a cop and run does that make me a criminal? Speeding is criminal in Georgia, does that mean every Georgian with a speeding ticket is part of the “criminal element”?

  • Glen Etzkorn

    maybe the amount of steroid use by the author and (other officers) should be tested for writing such total criminal bulllore.

  • Shawn Radcliffe

    Oh, jeez Im so fucking scared. What will I ever do? This is all coming from a cop whom probably has just as itchy of a trigger finger as the ones who you are defending: the ones who have mental and racial issues going on in the fucked up psyches because, more than likely, it is YOUR institution that condones it. You cops don’t even give a shit if the someone is Black, White, Asian, or Hispanic. You lobby on the LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDRAL levels to have laws written to conveinently meet your sadistic standards and get those shiney mlitary-grade weapons and ordanace that YOU HAVE NOT TRAINING, NOR THE RIGHT TO HAVE. You walk around as if you are the Law. YOU AREN’T THE LAW. You are held to a standard to Uphold the Law and when the Law is endangering the citizens you CLAIM to protect (which no, no you don’t) you have on OBLIGATION TO HELP CHANGE IT. More and more your Bullshit is being exposed, and your friends in the main stream media aren’t enough to help protect your ass. A storm is coming and you will have to pick a side, because your rich overlords sure as hell ain’t gonna do you any favors once they got what they want. They will use you and dispose of you quicker than a Lifestyle condom used in a 5 minute quickie.

    #FTP

  • Rusty

    Police have become an occupying force, a foreign army, often not even living in the communities they police any more but commuting from outlying areas. How many of the cops who work for Ferguson live with in the city limits?

  • RC

    Is this why some groups are so against eating pork?

  • wergov

    Well he’s entitled to his opinion but he’s not God and he’s not the 99%.

  • Michael Blackwell

    The ONLY GOOD COP is one WHO OUSTS CRIMINAL COPS! Period! Now! NO MORE STALLING. The TIME HAS COME TO CLEAN HOUSE! YOU ARE SO FOOLISH YOU BELIEVE that you can ENGAGE THE PATRIOTIC CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY IN BATTLE, AND FOR WHAT? OVER SO FEW PIECES OF SHIT CRIMINAL COPS!? YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN JACK BOOT THUGS, UNTIL YOU OUST THOSE CRIMINAL COPS, THEY STAND TRIAL, & THEY GET APPROPRIATE SENTENCES: LIFE OR DEATH! ITS THE ONLY WAY! THAT IS the ONLY way YOU, sir, will EVER BE TRUSTED! There is a HUMAN REVOLUTION happening in the HEARTS OF HARD-WORKING men & women ALL ACROSS our beautiful country & we’re meeting MORE & MORE everyday… These HEARTS ARE OPENING TO THE SUFFERING & SACRIFICES OF OTHERS AND THEY ARE STANDING TO PROTECT INNOCENTS AS WELL AS OFFENDERS, FROM YOU AND YOUR TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS. AND THEY’RE DOING IT CONSTITUTIONALLY! YOU REMEMBER THE DOCUMENT YOU TRASH DEFACATE ON?! THIS SMALL GROUP OF CITIZENS OUTNUMBER YOU AND WILL RETURN JUSTICE TO THESE STREETS YOU TERRORIZE! WE WILL ALL EITHER BE JUST OR DEAD! I SAY PROVE IT. I WILL ENJOY WATCHING IT ALL FROM MY CHAIR. CONSIDER YOURSELF, SIR. THE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING YOU. IF YOU ARE A TERRORIST, WE WON’T BE ABLE TO SAVE YOU FROM THEM.

  • NEIL C. REINHARDT

    SCREW ALL YOU ANTI-COP ASSHOLES! YOU ARE LOW IQ RETARDS!

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  • Joe Green

    David Mutchler, After reading your long pathetic rant, that was obviously written out of negative emotion and cleverly filled with indirect threats, I wonder if others who read this are thinking the same thing as I am….. this guy should be stripped of his badge and firearm, and immediately be terminated from his position as a law enforcement officer. Your enormous ego and false senses of self entitlement and greatness are apparently preventing you from seeing and understanding the reality of the world we live in. People have every right to dislike and even hate you, and every other cop in this country. Is their right to do so and your job to defend that right of theirs. You’re not paid for your opinion and until someone asks you for it directly, I’d suggest shutting your mouth because you’re not helping anything when you get angry and write a letter like that to the general public. Let’s not forget they’re the ones that you work for, the ones that you’re supposed to serve and the ones that pay your salary bub. You obviously think that you’re above others or better than everyone else. You can see it in the way you addressed everyone in your letter, titling everyone in groups separate from cops rather than speaking of everyone together as a whole community….. not just you the big bad cop and everyone else. Oh and one more thing there big shot, just because a LOT of people don’t like cops it doesn’t mean they’re a bad person or a criminal as you claimed. Maybe they’re just sick and tired of cops abusing their authority, and stealing from the general public on a daily basis. You chose that profession knowing what your job would entail and knowing you’d be hated by many people. Remember that the next time you drive your patrol car 110mph on a 65mph highway to catch up to someone who was only driving about 7mph over that speed limit at 72mph just so you could pull them over and write a citation, stealing a hundred or two of their hard earned money. Face it, you’re nothing more than an egotistical bully who spends 10 hours a day, 4 days a week, stealing money from the general public and all while trying to convince everyone that you’re there to protect and serve. What a sad joke……

  • Joe Green

    Dave Mutchler, Your job is to generate as much money as possible for the department and by whatever means you deem necessary . The people are tired of getting beaten up and having their lunch money stolen by bullies like you. Times are changing and so is everything else. Instead of writing a complaint letter, you should be making right all of your wrongs before your judgement day is here.

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    Iphoneconservative
    June 19 · Edited ·

    If there is going to be a debate then there has to be a little honesty.
    There are three things that opponents to the 2nd Amendment have to address.
    Firstly………. does a human being, just like any other creature have the right to defend itself from attack?
    Secondly……Why is it that those states with higher legal gun ownership have a lower incidence of gun homicide?

    Thirdly……..why do those cities that have restrictive gun laws like
    Detroit or Chicago have the highest rates of gun homicide?
    The situation is obviously more complex than the easy answers the gun grabbers would have you accept.
    Gun bans will not make you safe but they very well might make you a victim.

  • Bill Longley

    “We know that the vast majority of you see that ninety-nine percent of police officers serve with integrity and courage.” I got this far before i had to laugh, then laugh some more.

  • Dana Wana Pskana

    There needs to be the recognition that cops must be respected more just as much as citizens feel they need to be more respected. If you can identify what the source of this officer’s frustrations are, it seems to be a common element. The enabling of crime is coming from government. We must possess ourselves to move against
    them in a civic order so as to protect all interests spirited to laws. There is no active effort to make communications
    between cops and civilians more reliable, easier, more peaceful. The debate could start here. Meetings, public assemblies, coordination between community outreach groups and the public servants. This to me is a plea to help police if nothing else. I don’t see it as a threatening response as much as a force of defense against the steady encroachment of the Federal government and the UN, those protracted hostilities by organized crime, secret groups- traitors to this country which do exist. There is a law called Treason and its in every State as well as a Federal law. To protect our communities we must band together with that element in the police which outweighs the rest hopefully but is portrayed as a lever for countering Americanism. The drastic number of rapes, murders, beatings, false imprisonments and other brutish violations of basic State, Federal and International Human Rights Laws has created a fervor against police in general which is being carefully sculpted into a confrontation of massive proportions between city populations and their law enforcement. This will cede the right to defend our own turf to the United Nations (2006 NDA). Beware this world power in its contract to suffer us into separation from our goals and original ideas.
    We can work together if we have the hearts and minds to communicate about it while we still can!

  • Baba Rahameem Kedar Ben Israel

    Ho hum!!!!

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  • Kevin M Branson

    Having been a victim of unwarranted police brutality, I can say with no reservations that the real crime wasn’t being beaten on my head by 6-7 bully clubs, it was the cover-up that followed when I sought justice. To the man, each and everyone of them lied in a concerted effort to hide the truth. This was by all definitions, organized crime. The only way that we are going to eliminate this type of police conduct is to go after those who substantiate the frauds committed by other officers. By enacting and enforcing laws that hold those other officers accountable, just as they would to someone who is an accessory to a crime, can we break the Blue Wall of Silence. By identifying these crimes as racketeering, we can use the RICO laws for organized crime to investigate and expose bad cops.

  • Barbara Guariglio

    Dave Mutchier is a racist, bigoted bully, but I must thank him. He just empowered me. I will post and tweet and spread the word regarding everything I see and hear about police officer injustices. I will never leave home without my camera.

  • fractalsphere

    “We know that the vast majority of you see that ninety-nine percent of police officers serve with integrity and courage.”

    Take care of that murderous 1% and all the other police covering up their crimes and we can talk. Notice he doesn’t mention that one percent anywhere else in his note to the public.

  • Katherine Wintersnight

    Lyer. Coward and lyer. You might have pulled this off if so many officers had not been caught flat out lying on film.

  • RogerandShelley Sandmann

    Seems Davie is a little butt-hurt over all his fellow officers getting filmed killing unarmed adults and 12 year old boys.

  • Sam

    When are you all going to stop calling the cops, “officers” or “Law enforcement”, and begin to comprehend that these cops are not Law enforcement officials ? Especially that ignorant punk kid who wrote the letter of notice. Lawfully elected Sheriffs who have sworn an oath to abide by the Constitution are Law enforcement officials. Not cops. They are merely corporate employees operating under color of Law. Color of Law is not Law, but is the appearance of Law. Cops enforce STATUTES, CODES, RULES and ORDINANCES for the CORPORATION which employs them. The corporations, their CODE enforcers, “cops”, and their Admiralty courts of legal contracts and commerce, PRESUME, and only LEGALLY recognize men and women as LEGAL FICTIONS or PERSONS that are PRESUMED to be LEGALLY obligated to abide by a PRESUMED LEGAL contract or agreement in which states that those LEGAL FICTION or PERSONS have agreed to abide by all STATUTES, CODES, RULES and ORDINANCES of the CORPORATION ASSUMING JURISDICTION and operating in Maritime Admiralty Law.
    Anyone can enforce Law, and Law is not to be construed to mean LEGAL, and the reverse is the same. LEGAL pertains to contracts or agreements. In order for any contract or agreement to be LEGAL, it must first be made Lawfully by all parties voluntarily, knowingly and without coercion or deceit. Did any of you, as men or women, ever enter into a Lawfully made LEGAL agreement, on paper, in which you, according to the LEGAL agreement or contract, were operating in the capacity of a LEGAL ENTITY such as a PERSON engaging in commerce at all times, and thus agreed to consent to letting a corporate employee operating under color of Law beat your brains in with whatever they want to or whenever they want ? How about consenting to letting them shoot you for exercising your God given and unalienable Rights that are self evident as written in the original Constitution for the united States ? How about something as simple as LEGALLY agreeing to let them offer a SUMMONS for a TRAFFIC CITATION, which when signed, would make the SUMMONS a LEGAL contract to APPEAR to PLEA in the corporately owned and operated Admiralty court of LEGAL contracts and commerce, when in fact, you were at the time not operating in the capacity of PERSON engaging in commerce, but were merely exercising your Right to travel freely without such LICENSES or permission and not Lawfully or LEGALLY subject to a corporation’s TRANSPORTATION CODE, which is a corporate CODE dictating the RULES of engaging in DRIVING, which is the LEGAL term for commerce on the roads for profit or gain ? I didn’t think so, and I would venture to say that ninety eight percent of you have absolutely no idea of what is written so far.
    If you all do not know who you are, and in what capacity you may operate in at any given time, and do not educate yourselves on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Law and LEGAL contracts, you will never know why and how the Lawless and ILLEGAL crap that continues is status quo.
    One more thing. The foreign Banks and LEGAL system of usurpers that incorporated the original Government for the People by the People, operate in LEGAL contracts and commerce. These LEGAL contracts exist only on paper, and without this paperwork, the LEGAL system with it’s LEGAL ENTITIES simply can not function and can not exist. They exist on the paperwork. Without the paperwork, there are no LEGAL contracts or agreements in which they may PRESUME exist, and there are no LEGAL FICTIONS or PERSONS presumed to be LEGALLY accountable to abide by any PRESUMED LEGAL contracts.
    We as the men and women have the Lawful Right to put that little ignorant clown on Notice. That PERSON and corporate clan have no Lawful authority to impose any such Notice to the men and women not included in that corporation. The men and women are not such PERSONS and therefore are not to be PRESUMED to be subject to the corporate Notices. Now if you are ignorantly agreeing to be a PERSON PRESUMED as such, then by all means allow them to PRESUME the LEGAL authority to issue such a PRESUMED LEGAL Notice to your LEGAL FICTION or PERSON.
    Has anyone made it this far, or did they all drop out about a mile or so back ? I suggest you all get educated on this, but of course you are Free to do anything you want, as long as it does not harm another. I won’t leave it up for too long before I delete it, so get with it. Adios muchachos and muchachas.

  • Gailc120

    I would suggest that YOU be on notice-we are watching and we will not be silenced!

  • Katherine Wintersnight

    LEOs need to be held personally responsible for their actions. Officers who cover up for other officers should also be held liable. LEOs should be required to carry liability insurance that they pay for out of their paychecks. This personal liability insurance would pay the civil settlements of police brutality. My husband is an RN, he pays for a malpractice policy. The LEOs should be covered, too, because looting tax dollars to pay off settlements is just plain wrong. Let Dave Mutchler put his money where his mouth is.

  • Carolevrvin

    the succcessfull filming < Make It Easy

  • Robert Walling

    “No one gets a separate set of rules”
    Dave Mutchler

  • IllaConsiderit

    I hate unions and unions reps. as in my experience all they promote laziness, cause friction, and are mostly self-serving. I think he should work on an acceptable minimum dope-crumb to life ending bullet wound to entire city burned to the ground acceptable ratio limits.

  • Chumscrubber

    Fuck you Dave Mutchler – you are nothing but lying sociopath with a bad haircut and a low IQ.

  • Liberty4all

    Jesus Effin Christ. Way to NOT take responsibility for your actions. Here’s a thought. Take a look at why people are anti cop. Thank God for cell phones so that we can see how cops are getting away with murder of unarmed citizens. The idiot who wrote this ‘letter’ should be fire and never again allowed to carry a gun or be a cop EVER. This idiot is clearly a sociopathic IDIOT.

  • David S

    Dave Mutchler – YOU are the reason that public distrusts and disrespects Law Enforcement. With YOUR attitude, it will only get worse. Mr. Mutchler, you DO NOT belong in any capacity as a Policeman or anyone who represents Law Enforcement.

  • Christopher C

    … a ‘good cop’… lasts abut a week, trust me, worked with 1000’s of them and they’re all morons who just want to run around killing what they can, most them are serious head case little bitches of roid anger and penis envy… most are on the take also seeing as drugs AE The U.S Economy, but you;re not supposed to know that. most patrol faeries are cool, but can still crack your head… it’s the thugs ya gotta track… and do what you do with. LET EVERYBODY KNOW AND RUN THEM OUT AND USE SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEIR UDDER BS GUILT SYSTEMS AGAINST THEM AND FUCK THEIR “FEELINGS”… they’re muscle for lies, that’s all. Avoid them at all costs.

  • Christopher C

    here’s the end of it all – they think they can do whatever and that you can’t. thing is… most people don’t want to in the first place… but “they” do…

  • Tom Lowe

    Dave Mutchler appears to suffer from acromegaly and needs to go see a doctor about it very soon because not only has it caused him to be physically deformed, it is affecting his thinking to a deleterious degree as well, which is plain to see from this irrational, antisocial outburst of his.

  • Daryle AtlanticCity Webb

    Officer dim Whit,
    You have no idea how many negative responses that you will incur… its obvious that you operate at a mental capacity of fear and an overestimated emotion of selfworth… Any cop who would kill a seven year old baby, blame the baby’s grandmother and not expect to be punished, is a terrorist. All terrorists are only worthy of death… and anyone who would back you, are no better than you are.
    As a black man who is finished with wanting peace with law enforcement, you have no idea the hate that you and your cowards in blue have generated across the land and around the world. It is the cops of America that make a mockery of the phrase, “land of the free, home of the brave”…
    Im going to find out if you have a facebook page and where you are from, so that I can express to you what I really feel about worthless, cowardly scum..!!

  • Jim Hoover

    maybe instead of writing an open letter to the citizens you might just want to check on your policy of keeping bad cops on the police force just because they are members of your union? This is funny there have been what 32 officers killed in the line of duty this year, Whereas there have been more than 900 civilians killed by the police and still growing. You see that number of police killed has been diminishing ever year, but, the number of civilians is growing every year. I’ll explain this so even you can understand, since police have a policy of hiring candidates with the low side of average intelligence. The number of officers killed last year is more than the ones killed this year. the numbers of civilians killed this year is more than those killed last year, i.e. cop killing is down. Civilian killing is Up.

  • NEIL C. REINHARDT
  • NEIL C. REINHARDT

    IT IS VERY OBVIOUS MANY OF THOSE RESPONDING IN A NEGATIVE FASHION TO THIS OFFICERS COMMENTS WOULD FAIL A READING COMPRENSION TEST. AND THEY NOT ONLY LACK THE ABILITY TO THINK EITHER LOGICALLY OR CRITICALLY, THEY ARE UNINFORMED,

    • grim3per

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9c97272f445aaa5562387ad30db870fcf295ecc2e0e5522bccae97c363cc657d.jpg

      you sir, are an idiot copsucker….or are you a cop? how do you figure that nobody can read? is it because i don’t use proper capitalization of my letters? you are the idiot because your undies are bundled so tight it’s preventing blood flow to your brain.

      • NEIL C. REINHARDT

        YOU ARE A LOW LIFE, LIAR AND A PUNK ASSHOLE! AND YOU ARE STUPID AS WHEN PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS SHOWING THEY EITHER DID NOT READ OR ARE INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT WAS WRITTEN, PROVES MY POINT. SO KISS MY PARATROOPER ASS

        • grim3per

          sorry dude ….. we squids live in the water, the air is not our bailiwick….come down for a swim though!!! Your pretty good at ad hominnen attacks, ever try actually using facts and attacking the issue in question?

  • Eric Johnson

    The Masonic Fraternal Order of Police with no obligation to protect the rights of citizens, no oath to the US Constitution, no public oversight, no accountability to citizens or liability to law or civil suits, must be disbanded in favor of elected Law Enforcement. Stop murdering us.

  • michael92064

    Reading between the lines “we don’t always break the law and abuse our power”.

  • uKatamitt

    “You and those you enable must abide by the law and comply with law enforcement like everyone else. If you refuse to comply or even worse, attack a law enforcement officer, expect to be met with force.”

  • Mike Askew

    What are you going to do when the “criminal element” you speak of is YOU!!

  • We Hobson

    Upping the anti/e in the police war on citizens and giving new meaning to protecting and serving!

  • Joe Ayers

    Just another elitist piece of shit with a badge. Motherfucker couldn’t fight his way out of a paper bag, without his fellow Barney Fife shit stains to back him up. He isn’t just a pig, he is pig shit.

  • Santastops09

    Eat shit you P O S crooked pig ..

  • Jesus

    I don’t think he understands what freedom is.

  • JohnH

    I see no lesson has been learned by these megalomaniacal assholes.

  • Bill

    Dave Mutchler…Fuck You! You and all of those PIG Cops are Dirty as a whole. Once the so called good cops if you claim to be a good cop, identify and report the bad and corrupt cops and jailing them, then you will see a change in the community in the whole country. I don’t care how many open letters you write; that “Thin Blue Line” is so important to you and it protects you from the real laws that you cops break. Until you report the crooked and rogue cops you all are nothing but a bunch of Murdering, Lying, Thieving, Brutal Thugs Law Breakers and Animals.

  • ACDC

    Your letter is quite hostile and threatening. Just why you feel the need to write that letter. You mention verbal abuse, isn’t there a freedom of speech? You need to speak to and look up the videos that get posted of murder, lie, abuse of powers.
    You also need to ‘re train your officers in the law. If an adult wants to know why they get arrested they have that right to know. Why it’s necessary to assault people with punches to the victim’s head They also could use is a taser

  • dalosiman

    Notice to Dave Mutchler, the president of the “Fraternal Order of Abusive, Corrupt, Murdering, Raping, Extortionist Pigs”, until you start holding your brotherhood accountable for corruption, murder, assault, battery, rape, racism, profiling, extortion and every other crime you commit while enforcing unjust/unconstitutional laws in the service of corrupt politicians, WE WILL HAVE ZERO, YES, 0 RESPECT FOR YOU so you can shove your open letter up your fat ass!!!

  • a_b704

    Cops: follow laws the rest of us have to follow, and do your jobs. What I think of you, and what you think of me, is not relevant.

  • G. Stone

    This reads like a damned manifesto. Keep an eye on this jackass.

  • gyurika

    As I understand you are one of those who need to score below 27 to get into the force, as more intelligent people are rejected. Well the result shows in your letter. You see, for example it is not the police’s job to safeguard truth telling. Where do you think you live< In demented land?

  • badster

    Interesting. I guess we are all supposed to shake in our boots.

  • Russ Mohr

    What an IDIOT!!!….He’s a protector of the freedom for the citizens of Louisville…except the ones who dare use this freedom in ways he doesn’t agree with….so you want the officers to fight hate and intolerance with hate and intolerance!?…TELL ME HOE THAT WOKS OUT FOR YOU…sooooo fucking typical of law enforcement to escalate instead of deescalate a situation …you mr. IDIOT ARE A PSYCHOPATHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

  • Richard Snell

    OK RETARDED NAZI PIG.
    SHOW ME TEN PEACFUL INTERACTIONS. AS I CAN LAY MY HANDS ON 1000 BAD AND DEATH BY COP INTERACTIONS AT THE CLICK OF MY HAND. AND ONLY ABOUT 2 good ones come up. And even they have BAD COPS IN THEM !

  • Ren Thompson

    Dave Mutchler can kiss my ass.

  • Glen Moseley

    That asshole is so fucking tone deaf it is shocking!!!