Citizen Warns that 12-yr-old Child’s Toy Gun on Playground is FAKE, Cops Shoot and Kill Child Anyway

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Photo via Cleveland.com

UPDATE (12-28-15): OFFICER WILL NOT BE INDICTED

CLEVELAND, OH — We have received breaking news that that the officer who killed 12-yr-old Tamir Rice within seconds of arriving at the scene will face no indictment.

US Uncut reports as follows:

Timothy Loehmann, the Cleveland Police officer who killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice within seconds of exiting his car in November 2014, will not face criminal charges.

The grand jury’s decision is a surprise to some, as Judge Ronald Adrine found probable cause to charge both Loehmann and his partner for multiple crimes in June 2015; Loehmann for involuntary manslaughter, reckless homicide, and dereliction of duty, and his fellow officer, Frank Garmback, with negligent homicide and dereliction of duty.

The non-indictment was expected, as Cuyahoga County prosecutor Timothy McGinty, who is conducting the grand jury proceedings, had been slowly releasing selective information to the media in a slow trickle since October — some of the leaks included Loehmann’s testimony that the rookie officer was in fear for his life when Rice pulled a toy gun out of his pants, along with the release of three law enforcement-affiliated witnesses who backed up Loehmann’s actions as reasonable given the circumstances.

McGinty claims the leaks were for transparency, but Rice’s family expressed outrage at McGinty for allegedly trying to influence the proceedings in favor of Officer Loehmann through manipulating public opinion.

“We have never seen a prosecutor try so hard to lose a case,” Rice family attorney Jonathan S. Abady told the New York Times.

Watch the announcement in the video below:

The person who called 911 on the boy CLEARLY WARNED the dispatcher that the child’s toy gun was “fake.” Despite this warning, police shot and killed the boy.  Listen to the audio and video below.

UPDATE (3/2/15): Government Claims Tamir Rice Caused Himself to Die

Government officials with the City of Cleveland have responded to the outrage of parents and residents in the wake of the fatal police shooting of a 12-yr-old child.

Their response was reported by ABC 5 as follows:

The City of Cleveland has filed a response to a federal lawsuit filed by the estate of Tamir Rice.

According to documents filed in United States District Court Northern District of Ohio Eastern Division , the City of Cleveland answered the plaintiff’s amended complaint Friday.

The City of Cleveland claims that 12-year-old Tamir Rice’s “injuries, losses, and damages complained of, were directly and proximately caused by the failure of [Tamir] to exercise due care to avoid injury” and were caused by his own acts.

The defendant, including the City of Cleveland and Officer Timothy Loehmann, at all times acted reasonable and in good faith, according to the newly filed response.

And there you have it. A 12-yr-old child caused himself to die, and Officer Loehmann “acted reasonable” at all times.

UPDATE (1/8/15): Extended Raw Footage Shows Child Dying, Cops Refuse to Render Aid, Tackle 14-yr-old Sister to Ground

Shocking never-before-seen footage has now been released showing just what happened in the moments after the police murdered Tamir Rice, a 12-yr-old child who had a toy BB gun.

After shooting Tamir, the officers can be seen standing around and refusing to give the child medical aid.

As the child laid dying on the ground, his 14-yr-old sister approached the scene in agony that she might lose her brother.

That’s when cops can be seen forcing the young girl to the ground and arresting her. It is difficult to imagine the hell and torment the sister went through as she was restrained and prevented from doing anything while cops let her brother die.

UPDATE (12/2/14): Cop Who shot 12-yr-old Child to Death “Loved the Action” of Police Work, Says He “Had no Choice”

The father of Officer Timothy Loehmann, who recently killed a 12-yr-old child on a playground, has spoken out about how Officer Loehmann felt about his career as a police officer.

“He loved the action,” said the father, who is also a former cop, in an interview with the Washington Post.

Officer Loehmann had only recently been assigned to the 4th district in Cleveland and was still a rookie when he killed 12-yr-old Tamir Rice.

According to the father, Officer Loehmann stated that he “had no choice” but to fatally shoot Tamir.

“I was right there when he went for the gun,” he added, blaming 12-yr-old Tamir instead of himself.

The raw video footage shows that Officer Loehmann opens fire on the child within about two seconds of pulling up to the scene. Tamir Rice was not confrontational and never threatened Officer Loehmann.

As one commenter points out:

“Are we expected to pretend as if it is normal protocol to drive right up to someone, who you think has a deadly weapon, and shoot them? You know, versus stopping a ways back and demanding they drop the weapon and (so that they can actually showcase that top notch training they received) INVESTIGATE the situation, first? No one was in immediate danger when they arrived.

Are we also expected to act as if we do not live in America and that our gun culture is not ingrained into our society and that millions of kids, from all socioeconomic backgrounds, play with toy guys, BB guns and even real guns, on a regular basis?”

Full article continues:

CLEVELAND — A rookie police officer has just shot a 12-yr-old child to death on a playground.

The child was playing with a toy BB gun.

Police claim that the toy looked real and that they were “forced” to shoot the child.

However, the community and the boy’s family say that the cops were trigger-happy.

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They believe that the cops were trigger-happy for several reasons:

1) The citizen who called 911 on the boy clearly warned the dispatcher that child’s toy gun was fake(raw recording below). This means that a warning was given ahead of time from which any reasonably sane and intelligent person can extract two facts: (a) we are dealing with just a small child playing on a playground, not an adult, nor a criminal, and (b) the child’s toy is fake. To any normal conscious human being, these two facts entail that there is zero chance of an actual deadly threat.

(If you have been trained day-in and day-out to be in a constant state of cowardly, irrational fear toward your fellow citizens — that’s to say, if you are a modern day police officer — then, sure, you might “fear for your life” in front of a harmless child.)

2) The boy did not act aggressively toward the police — there was no verbal or physical confrontation, as admitted by the police commentary itself. He never at any time pointed the toy at officers. That’s worth repeating: the child never, at any time, threatened the officers or pointed the toy at them. He was merely playing on the playground.

3) The police should be trained to distinguish between a live threat and a playful 12-yr-old child. They should not just blindly open fire and shoot non-aggressive people simply for holding an object, gun or otherwise.

4) Even if the boy’s toy HAD been a real gun — which it wasn’t, but let’s assume for the moment that it was, just for the sake of argument — the 2nd amendment of the constitution gives citizens the right to keep and bear arms. The police do not have the right to just blow away anybody for holding a gun.

Due to these reasons and more, the police indeed seem to be trigger-happy at best; eager to use force without discretion so they can pretend to be “heroes” and get career boosts, at worst.

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The incident began when a rookie officer and his partner pulled into the parking lot and noticed some people near the playground, after receiving a 911 call, according to reports.

The 911 caller told the dispatcher that the boy’s toy was fake.

The rookie cop showed up to the scene and claims that he saw a “black gun” resting on a table.

He claims that the child went and picked up the bb gun and put it in his waistband.

Why the cop simply did not rush the child and prevent him from picking up the “gun” when he first saw it on the table remains a mystery.

Caller Clearly Alluded to the Boy’s Toy Being “Fake” — Listen to 911 Call Now

The cop reportedly told the boy to put his hands up, but claims that the boy was “reaching” into his waistband.

The child did not threaten the officer at all — neither verbally nor physically.

But the cop opened fire and shot the boy in the torso anyway, according to reports.

The boy was rushed to the hospital. Initial reports stated that the child was in serious condition.

We have now received confirmation that the child has died.

Neighbors who witnessed the incident or heard about it gathered and shouted expletives at police, saying that the police failed to use discretion and just wanted to feel like heroes by shooting somebody.

Deputy Chief of Field Operations Ed Tomba assured the public that “Police don’t come to work everyday and want to use force on anybody.”

RELATED: Shock Video: Trigger-Happy Cop Repeatedly Shoots Unarmed Man Even though the Man’s Hands Were Raised Up in the Air

It is important to note that the boy never threatened the officer, he never even pointed the gun at the officer, never physically or verbally posed any kind of threat, and, moreover, a citizen warned ahead of time that the child’s toy was fake. Thus the police had ample opportunity to handle the situation intelligently, but they opened fire and shot the child to death anyway.

It seems likely that the boy was simply startled when the cop suddenly appeared in front of him, and was trying to explain to the officer that his toy was not real, but never had the chance because the cop fired so soon.

This article will be updated — including the boy’s name and the names of the officers and witness testimony — as more details are made available.

Watch the video below:

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UPDATE: Raw footage released.

Raw footage shows that the cops were very close to the child at the time of the shooting. It also shows that officers fired immediately after exiting their vehicle. The officers claim that they told the boy “drop the gun” but that cannot be confirmed due to the video lacking audio. The child at no point points the toy at officers, and at the time of the shooting the patrol car obscures his view.

Watch it now:

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  • michael92064

    “We don’t come to work everyday and want to use force on anybody,” Tomba said. “That’s not what our job is. We’re part of this community.” Sadly he can not acknowledged that some officers do hope for a chance to shoot someone.

    • Richard

      I don’t think any officer hopes for a chance to shoot someone, especially not a child.

      • flashwins

        you would be wrong.

        • Richard

          How do you know?

          • couchtripper

            How many people are killed by police in the USA every year? Compare that to civilised countries and the answer can only be that the police in the USA are out of control – willing to kill anyone for anything. And you can be certain that given the amount of people involved that at least some *want* that to happen. It’s basic statistics.

          • Richard

            No you cannot assume that they want to kill people just because they do. That is ridiculous. I had a cop pull his gun on me when my friend got pulled over for speeding on the road to the airport. He had me go stand near a ditch on the side of the road and said “don’t come up behind me because I’ll have to shoot you.” and even though it pissed me off because I am not a criminal I know he only said it because he was afraid not because he hopes he gets to shoot someone. Police shoot people because they are afraid not because they are just looking for an excuse to shoot someone.

          • dabigkahuna

            If you believe that then you also believe the earth is flat!!! American cops are nothing more than brainless trigger happy cowboys…… period!!!

          • Richard

            That makes no sense.

          • Concerned

            agree with Richard

          • Donald Minchew

            He is telling you to wake up to reality. Does that clear it up for you???

          • Richard

            I’ve been awake… People are just buying into sensationalism and acting like every cop out there is just hoping he gets a chance to shoot you which is just not true.

          • Donald Minchew

            There is some good cops but the one comment I heard on here is correct. There is allot of young want a be that are cowboys. You make some good points but I am looking from the inside and out and we are heading down a bad road.

          • AdamSee

            And how do you KNOW it’s not true???? You don’t…

          • Richard

            I didn’t say I did, big difference.

          • Edward The Great

            Then why don’t the “Good” cops ever fucking arrest the bad ones?! You know why?! Because good cops are not cops for long! Cops are FIRED for telling the truth, especially in a court of law! Cops are fired for testifying against other cops! Stop being such a fucking sheep!

          • Richard

            Internal affairs does arrest bad cops… You sound much more like a sheep than me. You buy into all this sensationalism and follow the herd of protestors. You are much more conformed than I will ever be.

          • Edward The Great

            Internal Affairs is a fucking joke. That you think they actually hold their officers accountable is proof that you are either a dumb ass, or completely brainwashed. I can find 100 articles where INNOCENT AND UNARMED PEOPLE WERE GUNNED DOWN and the officer faced no charges and only got a paid vacation while they investigated. How stupid can you possibly be to believe your own bullshit?! WOW!!

            This is internal affairs,

            “We’ve investigated ourselves, and we have found ourselves cleared of any wrong doing and that we acted appropriately.”

            You are suffering from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome.

          • chris

            You found 100 cases and there are how many officers in the US? You made your own case

          • Edward The Great

            You really are a moron, you know that? No, you don’t know you’re a moron, and that’s the problem. Think on this, Gump, Nearly every single police department in every single city has several DOZEN lawsuits for brutality pending against them at all times. That does not happen if police are not the problem. Moron. In fact, there was an entire department that the state of Florida had to shut down because it was so corrupt! Now the country Sheriff is responsible for policing that town. But police can do no wrong, right? Idiot.

          • Edward The Great

            So reporting police brutality is “sensationalism” but officers attacking an innocent and unarmed person and charging them with a crime, quite possibly ruining their lives by claiming they are guilty is okay with you?

          • Richard

            No reporting police brutality is not sensationalism in itself but news media with political agendas do sensationalize it and no I am not ok with police or anything attacking another person for no reason nor false arrest. But police aren’t judges, if they arrest someone their peers get to decide if they are guilty or not based on evidence. I personally think we should be harder on bad cops who break the law than the average criminal. I think they should make an example of bad cops and give them the longest sentences of all.

          • Edward The Great

            Then explain all the cases that have been proven to have been tampered with by police to get a conviction. Explain all the out right lies by police that have destroyed lives. Explain how a man is on death row for the murder of a woman when all the evidence points to her cop ex boyfriend being the actual murder, but this fucker is still not in court for it, while an innocent man sits on death row. The cop is in jail for rape (surprisingly), but the innocent man is still condemned to death. This could only have happened if there was a conscious effort but an entire department to pin the blame on an innocent man. Your arguments hold no water when faced with logic.

          • Richard

            I’m just curious but where are you getting all of this information from?

          • Edward The Great

            I can read. That’s where. I don’t live life looking at cops through rose tinted glasses. I once respected cops. When I was a kid. But age and the ability to think for myself have changed all that. It’s an ugly and very unpleasant moment when childhood delusions are shattered. Mine were shattered the more I heard of cops murdering and getting away with it, even when they are on video committing their blatant crimes and being found to have “Acted appropriately” by their own investigations. That is why internal investigations are a joke. There is a reason they resist outside independent investigations. Because none of them would ever get away with their crimes.

            http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2014-04-30/rape-victim-believes-rodney-reed-is-innocent/

          • Edward The Great

            Trooper Donna “Jane” Watts arrested an off duty officer for speeding over 100mph in his cruiser with no emergency lights and not responding to a call. You know what happened to her? She was harassed, and stalked by officers from EIGHT other departments! She feared for her life! They drove her out! You should see some of the cop forum posts about her! COPS have said that if she ever needed back up against a gunman, they would not respond! Because she arrested another cop! An officer in the Austin PD has been FIRED recently for testifying against other officers in the Antonio Buehler case! THEY FIRED HIM FOR TELLING THE TRUTH!! THAT IS PROOF OF A SERIOUS PROBLEM AND IT IS NOT A SMALL PERCENTAGE!! No matter how much you delude yourself into believing it, doesn’t make your bullshit argument of it being a small number of cops true! It is NOT!

          • Richard

            Sounds like they need to clean house in that department. I believe everything that you are saying and I don’t care to look it up. But every single one of those cops should be fired and sued for everything they own. There should be public outrage, it should be on nation news shaming those police officers.

          • Edward The Great

            Did you not read what I said. I said EIGHT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. And through out the state! She was suing over 50 cops for harassment! That is NOT a small number! There was little outrage because departments do what they always do. Covered it up!

            Like the lady cop who was fired for protecting a kid who was clearly having emotional issues. She had the situation in hand, and two cops from a different department showed up without knowing what was going on and attacked the kid. She pulled them off and protected the kid! They reported it, and she was fired for it! This happens in every city! It is NOT a small issue! It’s is a top down issue! What do you not understand about this?! Fuck!

          • Richard

            I do understand, I didn’t see eight though, although I did read it all. I’m actually really sleepy right now and I have to get some sleep before driving to Tampa in about 7 hours. You are right it is a top down issue, I don’t think that happens in every city although it does sounds like there is widespread corruption there. Sadly something similar happened in the county next to mine, a guy with paranoid schizophrenia was burning a fire in his yard and got charged with a bunch of bullshit environmental charges and the public (pretender) defender didn’t even tell the judge that he had mental issues. He didn’t go to jail but he got probation which I thought was unfair because he didn’t understand that what he was doing was wrong.

          • Unstoppable Nubian

            Clearly this propaganda artist has connections upvthe Gestapo. He’s brainwashed by his relationship with the police. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is really a cop trolling the Internet.

          • AL

            I don’t know….according to the story you told about getting pulled over and being totally ok with the cop threatening your life i would have to say you sound pretty damn conformed.

          • chris

            What is it with all these ignorant people using the words sheeple and cop sucker like they have no imagination or vocabulary. Like you said, they are the sheep following the herd

          • Bill Richardson

            Sorry, bad cops do get arrested, prosecuted and jailed. And cops know that ANY shooting is going to be a nightmare for them… You will be investigated by your department, investigated by the prosecutors, possibly investigated by the Justice Department, lambasted in the media and social media and second-guessed by everyone, including yourself.

          • Edward The Great

            You can’t really be that stupid to actually believe that load of bullshit, can you? Police investigating themselves is a joke. Internal Affairs is a joke. Anyone who isn’t a blind, obedient slave can see this. Cops are RARELY ever held accountable for their crimes. Why don’t you google that and get your head out of your ass and smell reality.

          • Donald Minchew

            Seattle wa. cop killed this man in cold blood and his worst punishment was he lost his job. They could not do anymore because Wa law states they can’t.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UA0v1TF4Q34

          • Your Next

            Who said fuck face inbred retarded police officers make sense? Oh, you did without realizing you were the retard.

          • Damon

            Until you need their help. It’s people like you that are part of the problem.

          • Edward The Great

            Why would I ever need a cop? I have guns. I can protect myself, my home and my family. If I am in a car accident, I need EMS and the Fire Department. If my house in on fire, I need the Fire Department. Tell me again WHY I need a fucking cop? The cop would probably shoot me if I were trapped in my car for “Not obeying his commands.” Fucking cop sucking sheep moron.

          • chris

            Only ignorant people can group a whole workforce into one category

          • Concerned

            It’s tragic but if the officer thought other people were going to get hurt because the child revealed a realistic gun then he/ she were just doing their job. As for the ‘how many people are killed by police in the USA every year?’ comment, well we should also take into account that the USA has ridiculously lax gun control laws which may just be the crux of the problem. It really irks me that people go wildly claiming facts without any research or evidence, just what they’ve been told by a news company who have to make things interesting to get views.

          • matt

            you scream gun control like it will take guns away from criminals! look how well that worked with the drug war!

          • Tone Deaf.

            Too True Matt. I’m in Australia,where our gun laws are very tight, but people are shooting up the western suburbs nearly every day here.

          • http://FreedomFray.com/ FreedomFray

            The crux of the problem is fools that don’t understand the 2nd amendment. Lax gun control laws. THERE ARE TO BE NO GUN CONTROL LAWS. “Shall not be infringed” is a rather simple concept to grasp.

          • AL

            what do gun control laws have to do with cops beating or shooting unarmed people ?

          • chris

            Agreed. We also have to ask how many police were killed last year

          • Donald Minchew

            Actually the cop pulling you out of the car when you had done nothing wrong was illegal and by him stating he will shoot you and restricting your movements was a threat on your life and by law you had every right to defend yourself against that threat. That is the same theory that they use to shoot. If you are scared of your job then you do not belong in that field.

          • Richard

            And I totally agree with that. Police who are scared of everyone don’t need to be police in the first place. I had done nothing illegal but he asked if he could search the car and we said it was fine. That is the only reason we were even out of the car.

          • Donald Minchew

            Doesn’t matter he threatened your life and restricted your movement when you were not suspected of committing any crime.

          • Edward The Great

            And you gave up your rights like an obedient little slave. Good for you.

          • Richard

            I’m sure you would have argued with him and made a complete ass out of yourself but I have nothing to hide and a world with a small percentage of asshole cops is better than a world without cops. If all the police quit their jobs tomorrow you’d be dead in no time, people would come take everything you have and kill you. It’s a crappy job and crappy pay but they are there to stop everyone from harming each other.

          • Edward The Great

            Crappy pay? Austin Police make more than most people. Small percentage? Then these small percentage must be the MOST PROLIFIC criminal cops if they are responsible for ALL the brutality and various other crimes committed by police. The small percentage argument does not hold water. Twit.

            Also, standing up for your rights is NOT making an ass of one’s self. That is the thinking of a slave. If all the cops quit their jobs I’d be dead in no time? I have weapons, I can defend myself, my home and my family. Your argument is pure stupid bullshit. Who have cops ever prevented from being murdered? No one. Who have the cops ever prevented from being robbed, or raped etc etc? Cops show up AFTER the fact, you moron! I KNOW you’re a moron because you believe cops are here to protect us! News flash, Gump, The Supreme Court ruled that police have NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PROTECT AND SERVE, ONLY ENFORCE.

            Think on this, fuckstick. Police tell us if we have nothing to hide, then we have nothing to worry about, but in every state, police are trying to make it illegal to record them on video or audio. Police Unions are fighting tooth and nail against mandatory body cams on all officers and legal consequences if they tamper with said cameras. Now WHY the fuck would they be so against accountability if they have nothing to hide? They should have no problems with being recorded if they have nothing to hide right? Well they DO have A LOT to hide, that is why they are trying to make it illegal to expose their crimes. Wake up, SHEEP!

          • Richard

            Really? Please enlighten me on how much Austin police get paid… Are you counting justified self-defense by police in your brutality statistics? Can you please provide links to your statistics or are you just making it up as you go?

            “Twit” yes that is a great way to show how juvenile you are, call people names on the internet for not agreeing with you.

            You were talking about shooting a cop who would not have shot me unless I came up behind him.

            You do realize that the fact that people go to prison and face the death penalty prevents murder, rape and robbery right? If there were no consequences or fear of the police catching lawbreakers we would have total anarchy. I really hope you aren’t saying otherwise.

            “Moron” Again you calling me names for dissenting says more about how juvenile you are than it says anything about me.

            “Fuckstick” Are you getting more immature by the minute?

            You my friend are the sheep caught up in sensationalism and believing everything the media wants you to believe, you are the majority in this not part of some enlightened group of people. You’re just another cow in the herd.

          • AL

            “You do realize that the fact that people go to prison and face the death penalty prevents murder, rape and robbery right” Really ? Oh that must be why there is no murder, rape and robbery in the world, the police prevent it……………… So i’m supposed to believe that everyone in the world are murdering psychopaths and the only thing keeping me safe is the fact that they are afraid they may get caught and go to jail, so without cops the world would just devolve into a murderous rampage of anarchy ?

          • chris

            Grow up. They have prevented millions of deaths and even brought life into the world. Cops don’t get paid very much at all unless you’re at the top of the food chain. Not enough to put up with people like you on a daily basis

          • AL

            That’s not true. Cops don’t stop crimes from happening. They deal with the crime after it has already happened.

          • chris

            Really so people rob banks, rape old ladies, steal TVs, shoot reporters knowing that the cops are standing there and then the cops deal with it. So if I steal some jewelry and hide it I don’t have to worry even if they’re in the store and see everything?

          • AL

            HAHAHAHA !!! What the fuck are you talking about ? Are you implying that cops are everywhere and they constantly stop crimes as opposed to showing up after the crime was already committed ? You do know that all those things you mentioned happen all the time so i’m not really understanding what you’re trying to say.

          • chris

            I have seen a cop get shot for pulling over a speeder so they have a right to be scared. I know some very good cops who aren’t out to get anyone. They will give people a ride home instead of giving them a DUI. A warning instead of a ticket. They will stop and help you change a tire. Last week a woman pulled a hit and run on my car. The officer came out, did measurements, talked to witnesses and was very helpful. I personally know cops that didn’t file charges on a woman who stabbed a man 9 times to vital organs who raped her. But I have seen many of them here on the west coast get gun downed and most places now require 2 officers per car on the HWY. I know cops who have beaten woman, men for no reason knocked a child down, thrown a smoke bomb in a childs room and killed countless dogs. There are good cops and there are bad cops. Just like there are good doctors and there are bad doctors. This was very unfortunate. I want to know where the parents were and what discipline the child had? Too much or too little? He was old enough to know right from wrong, know consequences, not to be running around a public park with a realistic gun, cap removed, shooting cars, scaring folks and other little kids, should have respect for adults and authority. Would’ve went along way towards preventing this tragedy. The 911 operator never told the police that the gun may have been fake-the 911 caller said it might have been fake but called because it might have been real. Moral of the story……Teach your children respect and consequences for their actions

          • Edward The Great

            They are trained to think of us as the enemy. ALL OF US! Read ’em and weep.

            http://www.theamericanconservative.com/seven-reasons-police-brutality-is-systematic-not-anecdotal/

            The number of lawsuits against any given department at any given time should be a huge wake up call. There isn’t a single big city department that isn’t facing at least 100 lawsuits at any one time. Most departments in this country have some sort of abuse lawsuit against them pending at all times.

          • Lupe

            it is not illegal for the police to have you step out of a vehicle during a traffic stop. People are so silly making up whatever they want and I is 2 not fact lol

          • Donald Minchew

            Yes it is illegal to pull you out of a car or even ask you for your ID if your are not suspected of or have not committed a crime but they gave consent and that is the difference. To threaten to kill him when he has done nothing wrong is a violation not only of local laws but federal laws as well. They can ask you questions but if you are not under arrest they have to inform you that you are free to leave at any time. I am also sick of people like you whom do not know your rights then you try to insult others that do.

          • Edward The Great

            *slow clap*

          • Thee America

            it is not a job for cowards..

          • Ken Marlo

            Why the hell did a cop draw down on you during what should’ve been a routine speeding stop in the first place????

            Doesn’t that alone make you a little concerned about what these people do with their authority?

          • Richard

            Well like I said I think he was afraid. I definitely think they shouldn’t be alone because he was and there were two of us and I think he was really scared. I do think they need better training to be sure.

          • Edward The Great

            MOST OF THEM WILL DRAW ON EVERYONE! DO YOU NOT GET THAT?! BLIND!!!

          • AL

            and that’s the excuse they use when they gun someone down. I feared for my life. If that situation is enough to elicit fear from a supposedly trained police officer then he has no business being a police officer.

          • John Dillinger

            stop being being apologetic for murderers who hide behind badge.. all cops are bad because it takes a bad person to want a job that affords the chance to murder another human being. The role of the
            police is not to serve and protect the people. It is to serve and protect the
            system that rules over the people. To enforce the relations of exploitation and
            oppression, the conditions of poverty, misery and degradation into which the
            system has cast people and is determined to keep people in. The law and order
            the police are about, with all of their brutality and murder, is the law and
            the order that enforces all this oppression and madness.

          • chris

            Are firefighters, doctors, nurses, EMTs bad people too because their jobs would afford them a chance to murder someone? All these jobs also afford the chance to help people

          • AdamSee

            If they didn’t want to, then there wouldn’t. They have means OTHER than lethal force that should be used more often than not….ESPECIALLY when dealing with UNARMED people…which, sadly, is usually the case.

          • Richard

            I do agree with you than non-lethal force should be the first reaction and lethal force should be a last resort. There is absolutely no doubt about that but I think that is more about poor training than a cop hoping he gets to shoot someone.

          • http://FreedomFray.com/ FreedomFray

            You had a gun pulled on you over a speeding ticket stop and don’t understand how your Constitutional rights were utterly destroyed? Are you aware that had your friend had a gun and shot that cop dead when he pulled his gun on you – that he would have been 100% legally, morally and Constitutionally justified? If, as you say, is what really went down. Now, I’m not saying your friend would not go to jail, as there is a good chance his jury will be stuffed with idiots like you that have no idea of the concept of freedom and our own Constitution. Get educated you ignoramus. Ignorance can be fixed, stupidity can not. Are you of the former or the latter?

          • Richard

            I can say I am neither but I’m not so sure about you. Calling people names on the internet for not agreeing with you is about as juvenile as it gets. I actually think you are a fascist, one of those liberals who thinks everyone is stupid and should be demonized or silenced if they don’t agree with you. I just served on a jury for a criminal case actually and I hated doing it because I knew that kid was going to get 10 years or more in prison. I carry a gun on me everyday but not shoot scared police officers which is apparently what you think is appropriate, I carry a gun to protect myself and my family. That police officer would have shot me if I came up behind him while he was searching my car, all he did was warn me not to. He wasn’t going to shoot me for no reason and if you actually think you would have shot him for what he did for me then you are no better than any “bad” police officer yourself.

          • Marsha Woesner

            If thy go to the job filled with fear, it’s time to find a new line of work.
            Try going to work filled with respect, people respond better than they do to one who reeks of their own sweat and piss.

          • Damon

            Then why don’t you move to that country!

          • AdamSee

            You’re an ignorant MF

          • Edward The Great

            Why don’t you shut the fuck up with your stupid statist bullshit, you fucking slave.

          • michael92064

            More Americans are shot and killed by police than American Solders die in the middle east wars

          • chris

            And all of these americans just wanted to give them a big hug?

          • Björn

            Read the news lately? Im Swedish and even i have feel the notion that most of your police force are sociophats.

          • Richard

            I read and watch the news everyday but I’ve never seen a cop say he hopes he gets to shoot someone.

          • Björn

            Actions speak louder then words.

          • Richard

            The fact that they shoot people doesn’t mean that they hope they get the chance to shoot someone.

          • truthisstrangerthanfiction

            Bullshit. Many of are by definition.. The exact definition of sociopaths .

          • chris

            Many of are?

          • Bronxboy47

            Richard, I realize you’re a lonely soul, just trying to get someone to pay attention to you….but really?

          • Richard

            I realize you are a liberal… and a much more lonely soul than I could ever be. I didn’t want any attention, I simply responded to a comment saying “I don’t think any officer goes to work hoping he will shoot someone” then all of you liberals started attacking me. Liberals are the new fascists of the world, you can’t handle dissension in any way without insulting any person who disagrees with you.

          • Bronxboy47

            You “know” that I am a lonelier soul than you in the same way you “know” no cop ever goes to work hoping for a chance to shoot someone.

          • Richard

            If you could learn how to read basic English you would see that I never said I “know” that no cop goes to work hoping to shoot someone.

          • Bronxboy47

            For conservatives like you, “thinking’ is the same as “knowing”. You think it, so it must be true.

          • Bill Richardson

            And for liberals like you, “thinking”… Well… Just doesn’t happen.

          • Bronxboy47

            As far as my competence with basic English goes: To “realize” something is to “know” it.

          • Richard

            I was referring to the “I don’t think cops go to work hoping to shoot someone” comment not the one where I said you were a liberal, that was quite apparent by your arrogance.

          • Richard

            Actually I’m not a conservative but people like you are definitely pushing me that way, your extremism needs to be balanced out. Are you sure you aren’t introspecting because it seems you are the one who thinks what you believe is knowing.

          • Bronxboy47

            Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn what you are, but if the shoe fits, I’d suggest wearing it. Why hesitate?

          • TheFlashingScotsman

            Don’t bring conservatives into this by calling Richard one. He wouldn’t make a zit on the ass of a conservative.

          • Unstoppable Nubian

            Hopefully your bitch ass is shot in the head.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Bjorn..being Swedish is nothing to be proud about. You have no idea how a cops life is in the streets of the USA. If a cop waits a second too long they don’t go home. Blacks in this country need to act like human beings. MLK is spinning in his grave about their stupidity and lost chances.

          • Edward The Great

            That is bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit that does nothing but tries to justify cops MURDERING INNOCENT and UNARMED PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT!

          • Paul Sharkey

            If someone has a gun and it looks like a gun to the cops then it’s fair game. Black parents need to be responsible for their kids. I hope you don’t need a cop because your the type of person that would be the first to whine. You are a parasite and obviously you don’t get out much into the world.

          • Edward The Great

            I don’t need cops, you stupid fuckstain. I have my own guns. I can protect myself, my home and my family when cops are miles away. Why would I need a cop? If I’m in a car accident and am injured, I need EMS and the Fire Department. If my house is on fire, I need the Fire Department. If some one is breaking into my house, I can protect my home my damn self. A cop would come in and probably shoot me. You don’t know what type of person I am, and I wouldn’t whine because I don’t need cops to protect me, which they don’t do by the way. How many times have cops stopped a murder? Never. They show up well after the fact. How many times have cops stopped a rape? Never. They show up after the fact. You are a fucking blind sheep. How am I a parasite anyway? Do you have proof of this bullshit? No? It figures. Cop suckers like you just make shit up. POLICE are TAX PARASITES and you happily suck their balls and obey them like an obedient little slave. Enjoy your slavery and continue to suck the cocks of your masters. Idiot.

          • chris

            OK cult follower. I found you mr sheeple /cop sucker. These are the 2 most ignorant words that only low IQ inbreds use cause they have a limited vocabulary and need the guidance of others like yourself-sheeples

          • Edward The Great

            Like I said, I have an extensive vocabulary. I just choose not to use it on fuckwits like you, as you are clearly too stupid to see straight.

            Ironic that you call me a cult follower when you are obviously a statist and would follow anyone in authority like a worshiper. Idiot.

          • chris

            You just can’t spell or comprehend. Another big word “statist”. Makes you feel like a big man. You see me following anyone asswipe? Yeah I didn’t think so. I don’t have to borrow words to make a point. Thanks for your address tho. I have some friends that will be coming to visit you soon. After we enjoy the holidays. Oh by the way-one would be a friend of yours. He wears a badge

          • Edward The Great

            Terrorist threat. Threat of using the State to commit violence against another you disagree with. Statist behavior. You’ve proven my point. Faggot.

          • Edward The Great

            You don’t know my friends, you statist faggot. Go suck government cock now like a good little slave. Bow to your masters. I will continue being a free man.

          • Unstoppable Nubian

            Eat shit trailer trash

          • chris

            As far as they were concerned he was armed and he wasn’t innocent. He took a weapon to a public park, shooting at cars and around other kids. Soft pellet guns injure and in some situations can kill. You wouldn’t be say he was innocent if he killed your kid at this park ignorant the great

          • lioneldionysiansmith

            You did read the part here about them not even talking this kid first. We’re more alike than different. By the way, your comment is a window into police mentality. And that mentality is that blacks are dangerous even a fucking 12 year old. Are you listening to yourself you use more caution with us than anyone else do you realize that makes you a racist motherfucker. you don’t think we’re intelligent enough to pick up on that.? You don’t think that that angers us and we feel insulted by it which feeds into the cycle of us hating you and you hating us. Be a professional if you’re going to be a cop treat people with respect if you want people not to have something to say to you. It’s the bullshit treatment that blacks receive on a low level from the date of were born in this country that contribute to the fact that we’re angry all the time with you motherfuckers stop doing bullshit and we’ll stop fucking being angry in the meantime stop shooting 12 year old without even talking to him first. Black white yellow or pink 12 year old shooting a police office

          • chris

            “Not talking this kid first” “from the date of were born” English your second language? Punctuation? capitals? Black, white, yellow or pink? Police don’t tend to talk to anyone who is pulling out a gun after they say hands in the air. A citizen phoned police because they were scared this 12 yr was shooting cars, running around with what the cops were told was a real gun with other kids in the park. They tried to talk to him. Why did he take the cap identifying it as a toy off the gun? Why didn’t these parents teach this kid about respect, right and wrong, consequences? You know these kids try to act tough and brag about guns and looking real and waving them and trying to scare people, being ghetto. Black is not an excuse until black folks use it for one, when it works in their favor. They can sure make the actions but never accept the consequences. It’s always someone elses fault. Whoa is me. They did it cause I’m black. No other ethnicity whines more or has so many groups, their own colleges, TV stations. It would be unethical and prejudice if any other nationality were to do what black folk do

          • Unstoppable Nubian

            Fuck your racial bitch. hopefully your whole family is burned the fuck alive.

          • dunstar323

            I know a few people who are native to the Red Sea state, around Port Sudan. They are a bit more tolerant than yourself.

          • michael92064
          • Richard

            You found two cases to back up your comment but think about what kind of percentage that actually represents. Those police officers definitely need to go to jail in my opinion. I will admit I’m surprised you even found a single example.

          • michael92064

            I found those in less than one min. I am not anti-police but there is too much covering up and protecting bad seeds. I have family in police work of years past and they are disgusted about what police do today.

          • AL

            surprised he even found a single example ? Really ? I can’t even go on the internet without coming across dozens of stories like that.

          • chris

            Unfortunately this is true but the use of cell phones is a big help. Now they’ve come up with a card that can be put into an officers glock that tells how, when and where it is used. It also has GPS so they can tell exactly where the officer is at all times. This will protect him if he is chasing down a criminal but also whomever he is chasing because he can’t take him off somewhere and do what he wants. It is being tested in 2 different cities right now

          • michael92064
          • Thee America

            he would be fired if he did

          • Bronxboy47

            You actually expect them to advertise and give advance warning of their sickness in public?

          • Richard

            I actually expect people to be smarter than to buy into this kind of sensationalism and think that cops are actually going to work and hoping they will be lucky enough to get a chance to shoot you.

          • Edward The Great

            Reporting police crimes is not sensationalism, you fuckwit! For Fuck’s sake! People like you are the reason police think they can get away with this shit! And they DO get away with it because police POLICE themselves! How stupid is that bullshit?!

          • Bronxboy47

            You didn’t answer my question. Nice punt.

          • Richard

            No I don’t expect them to advertise it themselves but I expert their peers to record it or testify to it.

          • Bronxboy47

            Oh, come on Richard, you know cops don’t rat on each other. How old are you?

          • Richard

            Actually they do, ever heard of internal affairs? There you go with the insults again… You really can’t be an adult can you? You constantly insult me on the internet like a juvenile child and have the nerve to ask how old I am?

          • Bronxboy47

            Internal Affairs is a joke. If it weren’t, the the conviction rate of rogue cops would block out the sun. So, when you think like a naive five year old, I’m not supposed to mention it. Is that it? And, btw, cops on the beat are not known for cooperating with Internal Affairs. That would be ratting, as I said before.

          • Richard

            It’s obvious you can’t help yourself because you have zero argument you just want to insult me because that is all you can do sadly other than say the exact opposite of what I say. You surely must be getting bored with saying basically nothing over and over and talking in circles at this point so just stop. Find something better to do with your night.

          • Bronxboy47

            You can’t be serious. What the hell are you doing wasting your time with me, if not talking in circles with me. Obviously, you can’t see beyond the tip of your own nose. And again, you sidestep the point I’ve made.

          • Richard

            You didn’t make a point you just said the same exact thing again, again and again. I didn’t message you in the first place, I looked at discus and had no less than 3 comments from you calling me names and acting like a juvenile. I replied back and you have kept it going since then. You thought you were so cool replying to me and being a dick. I almost feel sorry for you because you called me a lonely soul that needed attention and I can see now that is the probably the only way you could get attention is by calling me names and attacking me for no reason other than I have a different viewpoint than you.

          • Bronxboy47

            How can you say I didn’t make a point? You brought up the idea of Internal Affairs. In fact you threw it in my face as if I never heard of them. I countered your Internal Affairs b.s., and now you claim I didn’t make a point. Okay, I guess you’ve finally convinced me I’m really wasting my time.

          • Bronxboy47

            Don’t let this go to your head, Richard, but you are a mild form of entertainment.

          • Richard

            If this is even mildly entertaining for you then you really need to get out more.

          • Bronxboy47

            Never occurred to you I might be homebound, I guess.

          • Bronxboy47

            What you “expect” and what actually happens…. Need I say more?

          • Richard

            How many times have you or anyone you know been falsely arrested? How many times have you or anyone you know been brutalized by police officers? I’m just curious because you really act like the police hurt you at some point.

          • Bronxboy47

            Oh, now you want to play the social worker. I’m afraid you’re definitely not qualified for that role.

          • Elizabeth Faraone

            Cops say it all the time in their anonymous postings on the internet.

          • Bill Richardson

            That confirms it then… Anonymous postings proves it lol.

          • General Tso

            Ever hear the phrase, “Actions speak louder than words?”

          • Elizabeth Faraone

            Yes, they are sociopaths.

          • Bill Richardson

            So the media gives you the notion that “most” of our police force (hundreds of thousands) are sociopaths? Remind me later how gullible Swedes are when it comes to absorbing media swill.

          • AL

            Who needs the media for that. Just go out into public and actually deal with one. That’s how i learned they were sociopaths.

          • bjgollatz

            Well that settles it! Bjorn from Sweden has a feeling!

        • Damon

          you would be an idiot

          • Joe Clam

            Are you a murderous asshole cop too, Damon? The reckoning is coming for your gang, you ignorant fuckstump. Soon enough…

        • chris

          You have a very sick mind that requires counseling

      • Bronxboy47

        You should have stopped with “I don’t think”.

        • Richard

          Oh of course, because anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot right Mr. Internet Tough Guy? I’m sure I think much more than you do because in fact I have studied philosophy for many years. I spend more time thinking in a day than you probably do in a month.

    • John Dillinger

      rotten pig

    • Ridd Lore

      Blood Lust is real. Served in the military and clearly saw that blood lust is a issue with uniformed personnel. It is even a greater problem with the police.

  • mntryjoseph

    Cops are the REAL terrorist!

    • Damon

      Then move to the Middle East if you don’t like it.

      • upagainstthewall

        Damon … you can go to the Middle East… there are still US citizens that woud like to see this police state mentality cease. If someone in your family is gunned down, please remember the things you are posting today.

        • Elizabeth Faraone

          Damon is probably a cop.

          • chris

            Oh yeah. Everyone with common sense is a cop

        • chris

          What if this gun had been real and this kid gun downed your child in the playground? The air soft/pellet gun he had can still cause serious injury and he was using it. Think about that

          • upagainstthewall

            I am familiar with soft/pellet guns. Not that I have used them, but I sure have confiscated and broken a few … and those soft/pellet guns were from my kids play mates.

            Of course parents that are ignorant will continue to purchase these toys… I however have never purchased one. If I want a gun it will be real. If my child wanted a gun, he would have to take a gun safety course and it would be locked up when not in use.

            I have made a lot of parents pissed in my lifetime. I remember telling one woman that I had repeatedly told her son to take his gun out of the neighborhood. When he came back and shot my son in the face the airsoft gun ended up under my boot. She was angry and I stood there and explained that someday her child would end up killing someone and spend years in prison. That was back in 2004.

            Two years ago, her son killed his best friend with a firearm. It was “accidental”. So please don’t think that I am an advocate of toys in the shape of firearms or deadly weapons.

            As a mom who refused to buy water guns I still take a wrath of crap for providing the spitting dolphins and turtles for family waterfights.

      • Lolthesetards

        That was the most ignorant shit I’ve read all day.. Wait until your mother is murdered by one of these goons.. She should just left, right?

        • SonnyC

          I agree with you. It’s sad that some people that make comments on here have the mental ability of a rock.

      • Coyote Starrk

        He should move to the Middle East because he’s upset with retard cops shooting anything that moves?

        • SonnyC

          I agree with you 110%

        • Edward The Great

          Statist say some of the stupidest shit. All the time.

        • chris

          If he shoots some stupid little kid who is shooting at my car and possibly one of my kids?

          • Coyote Starrk

            That not even close to what happened in this case though.

      • SonnyC

        Very stupid remark.

      • Dejah Fortune

        most parts of the middle east are pretty calm and beautiful, but your ignorant and believe anything your told

        • marquis desade

          Shout out to the sand nîggėrs.

      • Wftdgy

        Troll..

      • Edward The Great

        That is the same retarded, flag sucking, state ball licking, false patriotic thinking that LET’S THE GOVERNMENT (AND COPS) GET AWAY WITH MURDERING AMERICANS AND VIOLATING OUR RIGHTS! YOU, AND EVERYONE LIKE YOU GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY!! Let the REAL American Patriots fight for our freedom against the tyrants in D.C.

        Fucking moron!

        • chris

          Wow. Only low IQ inbreeds have to cuss that much to get their point across

          • Edward The Great

            And low IQ dipshits like you latch on to language when you have no valid argument. Cussing relieves frustration, especially frustration as morons like you who will defend criminal cops no matter how bad their crimes. Even if said crimes were caught on video. Get fucked.

          • chris

            Not defending anyone. I don’t like cop killers. I also don’t like ignorant people who have to say sheeple and cop suckers or those who don’t teach their children respect, how to behave in public, how to deal with the consequences of their actions. This 12 yr old was old enough to know right from wrong, not be waving around a realistic looking gun with tip removed in front of other kids, shooting at cars, not listening to adults. We can argue all day. Fact is he’s dead because of his consequences cause his parents didn’t teach him correctly and NOTHING you say is going to bring him back. His parents can cry, bitch, moan and groan ad try to sue but they are going to think about what they did wrong for a long time to come. I raised my kids proper, they all have good jobs and they are all alive and well

          • Edward The Great

            So you believe he was shooting at cars because the police said so? The same police who will LIE in court just to get your ass sent to prison even if they know you’re innocent of any wrong doing? But you don’t like being called a sheep? The description fits statists like you.

          • Edward The Great

            The fact that, as you claim, he was shooting at cars and people proves it was not a real gun so did not warrant being shot to death by trigger happy pigs. Idiot! But cops will always shoot first, shoot second, shoot 6 more times and when everyone is dead, don’t bother asking questions, get a paid vacation and vilify their victims to idiots like you will always defend them no matter their crimes.

          • Edward The Great

            I have an extensive vocabulary. I just do not feel the need to use it when dealing with fucking morons like you cop suckers. Why should I? You guys are obviously too stupid to even see straight.

      • dfghdfgh

        Congratulations. You wrote the most ignorant thing I’ve read in 3 weeks. Kudos!

      • Megan

        What does the middle east have to do with cops terrorizing and killing people in the US? Are you stupid?

      • Wayne Corke

        haha Damon the terrorist in the middle east are your good friends Israel, they kill kids and babies too for much the same reason as this kid was killed, being….no good reason.

      • voiceofthepeople

        You pigs and pig lovers will be the first deported or exiled to another country…and that’s if you’re lucky! The people are awake and in case your piggy snouts haven’t smelt it…change is in the air and the people greatly outnumber you. I just hate it for your children…but I won’t shed a single tear for you subhuman swine. Don’t be surprised when you hear the mobs coming for you. What’s right and true will always find it’s way to the surface. The hunters will become the hunted and vengeance and justice will belong to the oppressed, and it will be a beautiful day when this comes to pass!

        • chris

          And little kids like this one will shoot your kids and your grandmother because you shot the cop that would’ve protected you

    • Texas Cop

      This website is absolutely despicable. Firstly, when an officer responds to any call involving a gun (real or not/child or adult) he’s gotta use precaution. For anyone expect an officer to let his guard down because the call says the gun is fake is just plain dumb. If there was not an issue or fear of the gun being real real, why even call in the first place? Secondly, for this website to say they could have rushed the boy shows that the author of this story is an absolute idiot. Its a shame that there are websites and people like this. Walk a day in my shoes responding to your pleas and cries for help.

      • Sunshine

        Even if an officer is acting with caution, the first thing that comes to mind is taking his pistol out of his holster and firing? Without confrontation? Your gun is supposed to be your LAST resort not your first. Pig.

        • bjgollatz

          Let me guess, you encounter someone acting so dangerous oy psychotic on a street that after confronting him and you witness him drawing a pistol you will wait until its aimed at you until you fire because you are faster than 1200 feet per second.

          • just me

            To bjgollatz first off he wasn’t on the street he was in a play area and like chief officer said there was NO CONFRONTATION nothing of the sort! He lifted his shirt, he didn’t aim it at them. So get your head out your ass and look at the real picture! Cop sucker!!

          • Pip Thinkabit

            What would you suggest the police have done in the situation, otherwise?

          • AL

            What they are supposedly trained to do. Many police have handled way gnarlier situations without anyone losing their life.

          • chris

            I love these words that make people feel smart sheeple and cop sucker. Do you have a special web site or meeting place you go to to gain access to these awesome catch words? They are so spectacular that only one comes out every 10 yrs.

        • tired of ignorant people

          You people are ignorant and uneducated as to what an officers duty is. They are LAW ENFORCERS. THEY MUST ENFORCERS THE LAW WHILE REMAINING SAFE. IF THE GUN WAS FAKE THEN WHY WAS IT EVEN CALLED IN??? OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE FELT THREATENED IF IT WAS CALLED INTO THE 911 DISPATCHERS. AND AT ANY TIME AN OFF I ER IS AWARE OR I FOR MD THAT A GUN IS I VOID AND SOME ONE GOES TO PULL THE GUN OUT AND NOT DO AS TOLD WHEN TOLD TO OLIVE HANDS ON HAD WILL BE SHOT. JUST BC THIS BOY WAS BLACK IS THE UP ROAR. YOU PEOPLE ARE DIGEST G AND WILL FIND ANY REASON TO CAUSE RALLIES. AND THIS REPORT KEEP REFERRING TO HIM ANY ANY CHILD WHEN THE PERKS ON WHOCALLED IN THE 911 REPORT, REPORTED HIM AS A MAN..NOT ONCE BUT SEVERAL TIMES…. 12 YEATS OF AGE IS NO LONGER A CHILD BUT A Considered a minor… as a matter of fact if you had to give that person cpr you old have to use the “adult” method not not the “child” method. Disgusting people will use any excuse to hate police. ….. oh and btw not o ly am I NOT A POLICE OFFICERS I also DO NOT love police. I just know the law. So all you morons; take adult hike.

          • cove09

            And you hear all the cop bashing but where the hell ist the parents and how stupid are they to give their kid this gun in the 1st place. Nobody wants to accept responsibility and admit they made a mistake. Its so much easier to blame the police…how about you riot and loot more of your own neighborhoods and show how ridiculous you are, that’s really going to show a great example that it’s ok to do dumb shit because you always have someone else to blame it on.

          • Naomi

            Who are you talking too?? I can’t tell who’s who in these comments so how you know the races of people in this room? I’m just curious!! Riot and loot more of your own neighborhoods’! Lol and then we wonder why the world is the way it is Smh

          • jp everyman

            They gave the kid a toy gun. How horrible?!. We should ban all fake guns. If a kid wants a gun they should just go get a real one.

          • Tiki Steve

            I grew up with cap guns, water guns, fake guns and we chased each other around with them back when I was a kid. Cops are just stupid trigger happy lackeys for the county wallet these days.

          • chris

            Our guns didn’t look like this one either. I don’t know about you but I was raised with respect and common sense. I knew better than to shoot at cars, and pull out a realistic looking gun at a park around people scaring them and then on cops. You’re comparing grapes to watermelon ignorant ass

          • chris

            No, but the little shit removed the tip so it looked real, was out shooting cars, was scaring people in a public playground, never told the officers it was fake, didn’t raise his arms when they told him too, lifted his shirt and pulled out a real looking gun. If you don’t see anything wrong here then I hope to god you aren’t a parent or grandparent

          • jp everyman

            Literally none of what you said is factual

          • chris

            Every bit of it is factual dip stick. It came straight from the news

          • chris

            And saying just go get a real one is something only a ignorant person would say

          • jp everyman

            Why if carrying a fake gun will get you killed and people will blame you for having a fake gun and not a cop who is unable to tell the difference why make fake guns at all?

          • chris

            You leave the tell tale signs that a fake gun is fake, don’t go around acting like the gun is real or pointing it at people. raise your hands if told to do so. Have a little common sense. Or do the world a favor. Buy a real gun and go up to a cop

          • chris

            Ignorant but then I expect nothing less from you

          • chris

            Agreed. This gun had the tip removed and looked extremely real. Teach your kids about respect and consequences

          • r

            12 year olds are minors which are children have you ever looked up the age of consent? I am certain you can tell the difference between a 35 year old man and a 10 minor. 12 years aren’t allowed in adult prison so therefor they children. You sound like you are 12 yourself go read some books and become familiar with the whole world please, you sound like you are stuck centuries ago when 13 year olds were considered adults

          • chris

            Please learn how to spell and word comprehension so we can understand what the heck you are trying to say

          • lejhammer

            I completely agree with why call the cops in the first place. I think the person who,called knew how this could end and wanted the controversy. They could have approached the child themselves but instead called the trigger happy police. I’m sure who ever called feels a job well done.

          • chris

            You’re going to approach some smart ass little kid who you think has a real gun? Go ahead dumb ass and someday we’ll see your obituary in the paper prematurely

          • Tiki Steve

            Because stupid sheeple have been conditioned to call the cops at every turn of the hat. They call the cops when fast food joints stop serving breakfast or run out of chicken nuggets. THAT is why they call. it is bred into them generationally.

          • chris

            There comes that word sheeple again because people are so unimaginative and ignorant they follow the herd and in doing so you become the sheeple you are talking about. Baaaaa Tiki needs to be castrated

      • lioneldionysiansmith

        SO approach from an area of cover this is a child that you’re dealing , why not get on the loudspeaker from a car .. What’s wrong with doing that? For example: you over there with the camouflage hat do you have a weapon? I’d so, please put it on the ground. That’s all you had to do. A little forethought Should be required as part of your training. If he runs that’s a different situation but that wasn’t even done..You punk mother fuckers just want to get your guns off as much as you can as long as you think it’s going to be justified, plus you know you can send a message to people that you really don’t like anyway. That’s not your job. But you don’t do this shit in white communities, only in the black communities.

        • Sunshine

          Fuck yes

        • Jxx

          Shut up with the race game. This stuff happens all over the place at any given time. Blacks kill whites daily. Just because the media covers stuff biasedly, does not give you the right to state your ignorant whiny bull shit claims. You’re the problem with racism.

          • Naomi

            People kill people daily!! Don’t be a hypocrite!! Cops is killing everybody but there’s a bigger issue with it in black neighborhoods!! Now I was enjoying all your comments let’s not turn it into race!! PLEASE!!

        • bjgollatz

          Since you are well versed in superior tactics, and will most likely outclass and outperform any other police officer, when do you plan on joint them?

          • chris

            plan on joint them? As soon as someone passes the lighter

        • chris

          Oh ok Mr officer “I’d so”? Black/white? Who the f— cares

      • Dion Scott

        go suck a dick !!

      • barloot

        You are a Piece of Shit that will be dealt with when the time comes. You cowardly fucking goof! Your D+ schooling had lead you to believe that you’re badge is a licence to kill. It isn’t, but it will lead to your death. Die from ass cancer.

      • Edward The Great

        You are a road pirate piece of shit. You are not needed. I have guns. I can protect MYSELF, my home and my family! Some one breaks in to my home, I am THERE to respond in an instant where you assholes are minutes away sucking each other off in a parking lot some where. If I am in a car accident, I need EMS and the Fire Department. You would probably shoot me for not obeying your commands, and shoot anyone trying to help me. If my house is on fire, I need the Fire Department, not you. You’d probably shoot me if I came running out of my house, then claiming you feared for your life. Pussy. You assholes are not heroes. Fire Fighters and EMTs are REAL heroes. They actually SAVE LIVES, while you dickheads only TAKE LIVES. Nice job in extorting money from hard working people under threat of force and violence. This is what you pigs do. You try to extort money from people, if they refuse, you threaten with violence. If they continue to refuse to be stolen from, you assault them and kidnap them, and hold them for ransom. You call it bail, but it is ransom. If they continue to resist paying, you reserve the “right” to break into their homes while heavily armed. And if they resist and try to defend their homes from an unlawful entry with intent to kidnap, you fuckers will ALWAYS kill them.

        News flash! Ordinances and statutes have NO STANDING IN A COURT OF LAW! You guys are running a HUGE EXTORTION RACKET! Cities have NO LEGAL AUTHORITY TO MAKE LAW!! ONLY THE STATES HAVE AUTHORITY TO MAKE LAW!! YOU GUYS ARE DEFRAUDING PEOPLE AND STEALING MONEY!! SHAME ON YOU ROAD PIRATE FUCKERS!

        • bjgollatz

          Why is it that I believe you would nor pass a background check?

          • Edward The Great

            Because you’re a cop sucking moron. I have NEVER been in trouble with the law. But I can see what they are. I see the truth. Why is it that you cop suckers always believe anyone who hates police is a criminal? We are not criminals. We are tired of criminal cops getting away with their bullshit. Open your eyes and smell the police state, sheep!

          • lberns

            Edward – These worthless copsucking scumbags would tell you that they would have fiercely resisted the fascism of 1930’s Germany had they been there when the reality is that they would have been as blind to the growing fascist police state and fully embraced it then as they are blind to the growing fascicm here they are embracing now. Their unquestioned blindness to obedience is sickening.

          • Chris Graviss

            We have been a fascist state for decades

          • TheLazyTurttle

            God, Edward, you sound like a cult leader…

          • Edward The Great

            And you sound like an Idiot. I am just pissed off at all the bullshit cops pull and get away with just because that shiny badge seems to grand extra rights and magical powers.

          • Tiki Steve

            The police should be personally held accoutable for any action against a civilian. they sould carry insurance for that purpose like a Doctor would have to. See how fast this BS ends then.

          • Edward The Great

            Indeed. No insurance, no badge. They force it on us with car insurance and fine us heavily when we don’t have it. They should be held to the same standard. They should be held to ta higher standard, but they are not.

          • Respects good cops

            You seem like the kind of person who wouldn’t mind gang bangers or the KKK to “police” the country.

          • Edward The Great

            Where the fuck do you get such an idiotic idea. I want cops to be held accountable for their crimes!! And that means I want gang bangers to police the country? You’re a fucking moron.

          • Frank Murphy

            Respect our rights and we’ll respect good cops if we find any

          • AL

            gang bangers already “police” the country. You know them as..well the police, the biggest gang in the united states.

          • chris cooper

            Why do all you losers use the word sheep? Seems to me you are all unoriginal and you follow each other like a flock of sheep. Such an ignorant word for a bunch of loser cult members who don’t fit in anywhere

          • Edward The Great

            How about a brainless cop sucker? That fit you and moron supporters of cops very well too. Shithead.

          • Edward The Great

            And why do all you mindless fuckwits act like sheep? Obedient slaves is all you are. Ironic you claim I ask a master for more, when you idiots are the ones who worship the state as a master and suck the cocks of their attack dogs called police. Moron.

        • Joey

          Ur an idiot! Fortunately ur the minority in this country

          • Edward The Great

            No, I’m not. People are waking up to police bullshit. Why do you think departments all over the country are pushing to make filming cops illegal? Why do you think so many police unions are dead set against mandatory body cams on their officers? Because their crimes are exposed that way you moron! Why are they so against these things? If they are doing nothing wrong, what do they have to hide? That’s the logic they use to get us to give up our rights. You fucking idiot. YOU are part of a shrinking minority. I am part of a growing majority that is sick to death of police getting away with murder, kidnapping, rape and assault! Fuck you, cop sucker!

          • usc1801

            Actually the Supreme Court has ruled that citizens have a Constitutional right to film police as long as they’re not interfering with them. They’ve also rule that the police cannot take anyone’s cell phone or access anyone’s cell phone without a search warrant. Not that most police have any clues as to what the Supreme Court ruled or the law.

          • Edward The Great

            Yes, but they (the police and police unions) are still trying to stop the filming. That they blatantly go against the ruling of the highest court is but more proof that they completely disregard law and rights when it suits them and are only interested in generating revenue.

          • Mike Rodgers

            Actually it didn’t make it to the SCOTUS. It was ruled by a Federal circuit court of appeals.

          • rob

            It is the same guy with multiple accounts. Don’t feed the troll especially when you are right and they haven’t said anything intelligent in response.

          • G South Madethat Beat

            JOEY, thats a dumb ass statement. Unfortunately for you, We are NOT the minority. The Elites that call the shots wants dummies like you to believe that, because they already know you will believe bullshit. Wake the hell up and stop accepting what is going on. You are just as much of the problem as these sick minded law enforcement agents. Ive been in the miliary, and was a highly decorated soldier….. I know FOR A FACT that the law ony extorts and lies and does underhanded crime, to the people that they are supposed to protect… I hope that you run into aa situation with a “bad cop” and he pops your dumb ass for nothing…. I dont want you to die tho…. Just feel the burn from that bullet, and that hate… and live to see what the fuck we are talking about…..

        • Paul Sharkey

          Edward you are morally sick and need help. Your language makes anything you say pointless and worthless.You have obviously had scrapes with the law. Edward the great jackass

          • Edward The Great

            No, it does not. Idiots like you latch on to language when you have NO VALID COUNTER ARGUMENT. It’s a weak tactic that ends only in failure. How am I morally sick when I stand against cops that commit murder? How am I morally sick because I want criminal cops to be held accountable for their crimes? Please show me where you got evidence that I am morally sick in anything I’ve written? I’ve written nothing but TRUTH, but sheep like you try to call people like me “morally sick” because I spread truth that dimwitted sheep like you don’t want to hear? Get fucked. I am sick and tired of police getting away with violating everyone’s rights, committing felonious assault, and murder with out repercussions, and I am morally sick? God, people like you are such dipshits…

            Where is your proof I have had scrapes with the law? I’ve told shitheads like you before, I have NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW! Why do idiots like you always assume that?! Other than a bullshit speeding ticket in a bullshit speed trap back in 2002, I have never been in trouble with the law. That was almost THIRTEEN YEARS AGO! But to morons like you, that is me being a career criminal. Just because I want police held to the same standard as the rest of us when they commit crimes means I’ve “Obviously had scrapes with the law?” What kind of dumb fuck logic is that? Idiot, cop sucking sheep. The reason I have these views is because I HAVE EYES! I can see the truth, but brainwashed morons like you don’t seem to be able to see the truth or are unwilling to see the ugly truth about “Law” EnFORCEment in this country and around the world. But please, present your proof of me having had scrapes with the law. Please show me where you got your information to make such an assumption. Cunt.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Your language shows that you are an angry individual who really needs help. I am sure your rants have been flagged by the cops and NSA as you clearly represent a threat to society.

          • http://Sott.net/ Joe Quinn

            You’ve just exposed yourself as an authoritarian follower who kisses the ass of authorities no matter what they do. Sad, sad individual.

          • Mike Rodgers

            ROFLMAO!! It’s Klansmen like you that need to be watched by legitimate citizens. Paul Shitty.

          • Joyce Hewitt

            I totally disagree. His language show that he is passion about what he is saying. We as people need to stop mistaken passionate for angry. At the end of the day, Edward makes valid points. Some police officers shoot first and hide behind the “feel of life in danger” and they are just uncover thugs, racist, or abuser with a badge. Everyone who are cop do not need to be a cop. Point blank. You can take this statement anyway you want but please do not twist my meaning- Some cops are bad and play the good old boy system.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Well I agree with that.

          • dsmith

            I like Edward, he nailed it.

          • AL

            regardless of the way he worded things, he is 100% Correct. You on the other hand are a jackass.

          • Paul Sharkey

            You are a fool and worthy of being an American. I don’t give a rats ass what you think but you are for sure lower class white crash. Goodbye fool.

          • Mike Rodgers

            Lower class white trash. So you show your colors as one of the economical elite who pays off this murderers. What are you going to do when it’s your kid being murdered by pigs? Oh yeah, pay them a bonus.

          • AL

            HAHAHA !!! RAD !! I’m lower class white trash !! That’s a pretty good trick considering i’m a middle class Mexican/American :) And you apparently do give a rats ass what i think otherwise you wouldn’t have responded to me… Dingus

          • http://Sott.net/ Joe Quinn

            Looks like you’re in the minority here. So YOU’RE the one on the wrong side of the moral fence.

          • Paul Sharkey

            I am not in the minority of US citizens and all of your friends references to sucking off cops leads me to believe this..you are all violent anti establishment liberals that belong in the 70’s. You all have anger issues so must be wife abusers,child abusers or alcoholics. I am morally sound and you are are dumb ass wanna be liberal. You all have annoyed my enough and I do not wish to spend my time responding to anarchists and fools. Go forth and multiply!!!

          • dsmith

            You watch CNN and Fox don’t you he he. I hate when people use the liberal republican left right bullshit. You sound brainwashed. Move along, you don’t belong here.

          • Mike Rodgers

            Damn right you’re not in the majority of US citizens. Most of us believe in freedom, but not Nazi bastards like you.
            If you think you are morally sound then you need to have a piece of plexiglass imbedded into your belly so you can see where you’re going with your head so far up your ass.
            You are nothing but a damn Fascist Pig who suckes off every cop in his town because he can’t get laid.

          • Mike Rodgers

            Paul the dickhead.
            Almost everyone who doesn’t have the money to pay off a cop or afford a real lawyer has had “scrapes” with the law because the vast majority of them are cowards. Backing a child murderer like this shows that you have the morals of a horny hamster.
            Why don’t you go back to your KKK brothers and whine to them you piece of shit!

          • Jeff Lachance

            Words are meant to be spoken… dipshit

        • aardvarked

          Someone put this fucking lunatic in prison before he kills someone.

          • Edward The Great

            Who exactly are you calling a lunatic?

          • aardvarked

            You, obviously. Get help.

          • Edward The Great

            So pointing out how fucked up police are makes me a lunatic? Pointing out their crimes and hypocrisy makes me a lunatic? That is grounds for me to be imprisoned? Because I speak the truth I should be kidnapped and placed behind bars? It’s cunts like you that have let things get as bad as they are because of your statist bullshit. Your kind of thinking has allowed our rights to be violated. No. You thinking I am a lunatic for speaking nothing but the ugly truth makes you a fucking sheep. Enjoy being a slave to your masters and get fucked.

          • aardvarked

            No, I think you’re a lunatic because you’re incapable of constructing an argument without resorting to idiot comments in all caps that make you sound like a complete psychopath.

            The problem is with the police system, not with police officers. You’re too much of a moron to understand the difference. Happily calling any police officer you come across a coward and a piece of shit from the comfort of your own home. It’s also blatantly clear that you’ve never been in or seen a serious car accident to think that all you need is the EMT and the fire department.

            “ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME MUST BE A SLAVE AND A SHEEP AND A FULL-TIME MEMBER OF THE US POLICE FORCE FANCLUB”. What an idiot. Enjoy your star man arguments directed at anyone who isn’t as much of a gun-toting headcase as you, though.

          • Midyin

            If you look at the ^ more people seem to agree with him than with you…

            Perhaps he isn’t the Lunitic here..

          • Jim Hun

            THERE IS A REASON “HUNGER GAMES” IS A NO 1 BEST SELLER AT THE BOX OFFICE. Here in Independence MO, since friday, it is showing at AMC every thirty minutes. Power and money corrupt. Our police force is corrupt. Period.

          • Jim Hun

            Go to You Tube and look up “The Best Second Amendment Gone Viral.”

          • Jim Hun

            All about crooked cops extorting money out of people…cheating at the voter box….

          • bjgollatz

            Its a best seller because its target demographic is teenage girls, the same demographic that bought the books before the movie. Which explains your propensity to be drawn to it.

          • aardvarked

            Ah yes, meaningless votes on a single website. The best kind of acid-test, right? Go on to Stormfront, make a general rant about how terrible black people are and you’ll be greeted with dozens of messages in agreement. Laughable logic.

          • http://Sott.net/ Joe Quinn

            Keep digging idiot. Go suck up to a cop or politician. It’ll make you feel better no doubt.

          • aardvarked

            Heh, ad hominems from someone who describes himself as an essayist. Cute.

            The US police force is an embarrassment, I’ve never said otherwise. I’m just not so incredibly full of shit to believe that every single police officer, to a man, is subhuman scum. Nor do I believe that people should be taking the law into their own hands. The problem is with the police force refusing to properly prosecute their officers in all but the worst of cases, the average cop is just an average, every day person in an incredibly violent society with more guns than people.

          • Mike Rodgers

            There are several times more people killed by cops than there are people threatening cops, let alone killing cops. Cops are more likely to abuse their family members, or murder someone than any other demographic in the US.

          • Mike Rodgers

            The fact that you hang out on stormfront enough to know what their opinions are just proves that you’re another KKK shill.

            Since I’m not a KKK Nazi like you,I had to look the website up just to know what you were talking about.

          • aardvarked

            I don’t need to hang around on an extremely well known white pride website to know that it’s going to be full of racist pieces of shit you clueless drone. Do I need to be a KKK member to know that their meetings are going to be full of racist pieces of shit as well? Your grasp of logic is absolutely pathetic, especially as you completely missed the actual point of the comment you’re referencing.

          • Ran Wise

            I haven’t really read any comments on here so far where people are really focusing on race as much as the corrupt system they’re frustrated with. smdh. However, it is true that more young black males under age 25 have been unjustifiably killed by the police or some trigger-happy wanna-be cop than any other race within the last 3 years. Even white people are fed up with this, not just blacks.

          • aardvarked

            Yeah this really doesn’t seem like the kind of website where you’re going to encounter many people having an intelligent conversation about the real issue in this story, hence why the most visible comment is a guy raving about all the ways he believes the police force is corrupt and doesn’t mention race or racism once.

            The US police force is as institutionally racist as the vast majority of America, they just have more opportunities to demonstrate that than the average worker. Not only do we see case after case of a black person being unfairly profiled or murdered but the immediate reaction from the media is always to try to tarnish the victim’s image in a way that we never seem to see happen to white people. There’s also the insane double standards in the reporting of the rioting and looting in Ferguson. (See white people rioting over stupid shit: http://imgur.com/gallery/rYd72)

            Look at the amount of white open-carry advocates walking around stores, parks and restaurants with loaded firearms that are celebrated by the same people who demonise the Black Panthers to this day, despite them actually having a reason for arming themselves. When’s the last time one of those was gunned down? Now look at the John Crawford case.

            You may also be interested in this, even though it’s really depressing: http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/03/people-including-cops-view-black-kids-less-innocent-and-less-young-white-kids/359026/

          • Edward The Great

            Yeah that’s why cps arrest fire fighters for doing their job. Fire fighters are the ones who get you out of the car. Idiot. Fire fighters are the ones who set up the “safety box” and keep traffic away. Cops arrest them for not obeying them when they are told to move their trucks. The problem IS the police officer! They are the ones who COMMIT the acts you moron! They are the ones who make the decisions to shoot to kill, violate rights, beat the shit out of innocent people when they don’t respond quick enough. assdvarked, enjoy being a fucking moron on the issue until a cop beats the shit out of you, arrests you for resisting arrest (which doesn’t make sense as you have to have committed a crime to be arrested and informed you’re being arrested) or a family member suffers the same fat. being innocent does not protect you from criminal cops. You are a brainless twit if you actually believe the bullshit that comes out of your head.

          • aardvarked

            Do you cite a handful of cases as being the norm when talking about everything or is it just limited to your rants about the police? There are pieces of shit in every profession, the problem is the police system often protects their own rather than holding people accountable for their actions. That’s it. There are countless hard working and caring police officers.

            Police officers set up the barricades, police officers control the traffic, police officers take witness statements and handle any further legal cases. Have you ever been in a serious traffic accident?

            You’re a raving fucking headcase. Too full of anger and hatred to write a coherent sentence. The fact that you’re a gun nut on top of it is pretty depressing.

          • Edward The Great

            If you think it’s only a handful of cases, then you are part of the problem. It’s systemic, you fuckwit!

          • Edward The Great

            Set up barricades? Control traffic? Take statements? You think this is worth them getting away with murder, assault, rape and kidnapping? You think it is a small number of cops? You’re a fucking moron! If it is a small number of cops, then they must be the most prolific criminals in history! WOW! And why are all the “good” cops not arresting them or beating the shit out of them? Huh? Can you answer that? If good cops out number the bad ones, why have the good ones not done a single damn thing to stop the bad ones? Because there are no good cops. Good cops do not stay cops for long. They are driven out. Trooper Donna “Jane” Watts is just one example. The Austin PD officer who testified AGAINST his fellow cops in the Antonio Buehler case HAS BEEN DISMISSED! Why? Because he crossed the Thin Blue Line!! You cross the blue line, you are out! The lady cop who pulled two other cops off an innocent kid they attacked FOR NO REASON was fired too! DO you not see that the problem is with everyone and not just a few? You are a fucking moron if you can’t see the truth right in front of you. You and those like you keep deluding yourselves into believing that it is only a few! It is NOT! The police becoming militarized is a symptom of that! They do NOT need such armored vehicles and heavy weaponry! Why would they need grenade launchers to deal with a group of protestors?! They have admitted to “needing armored vehicles to deal with anti-government types.” It is about crushing dissent!! not about protecting us! Holy shit, man!

            That you use the term “gun-nut” just because I exercise my RIGHT to be responsible for my own safety proves you are a liberal dip shit know nothing. You’ve allowed yourself to be brainwashed by bullshit propaganda. Congratulations. You’re a dumb ass.

          • aardvarked

            tl;dr You could continue to ramble incoherently for days and still wouldn’t be any closer to a solid argument. Police officers play a vital role in dealing with traffic accidents, it’s blatantly obvious that you’ve never been in one.

            Do you ever venture outside of your own house? Have you ever spoken to a police officer?

            Your “right” to walk around with firearms is part of the reason your police force is so excessively violent. Congratulations on being a part of the very problem you spend your life ranting about. Moron.

          • Edward The Great

            You are the asshole who has done nothing but spew nonsense. You only say my arguments mean nothing because they are stronger than yours and are actually based in fact, and not your delusions of time long gone when police were actually respected. Get fucked, you cop sucker. “Your “right” to walk around with firearms is part of the reason your police force is so excessively violent.”

            No it is not, you dip shit. Criminals do not obey gun laws. That you think that shows your stupidity. Ban guns and they can still get guns. Banning drugs has worked out just SO WELL too, hasn’t it? You clearly do not understand what the right to bear arms actually means. Hence, you’re a fucking retard. Get fucked. Slave.

          • aardvarked

            You’d have to be really fucking dumb to not think there’s any correlation between a country having more firearms than people and that country having an excessively violent police force. Are you an open-carry advocate as well?

            Firearms are illegal in England and the police here have shot and killed one person in over 3 years. 51 people were killed by firearms in one year, compared to 30,000+ in the USA. No connection between having a country full of guns and a country full of gun deaths though, clearly. Follow the constitution at all costs.

          • Edward The Great

            Yet violent crime is 800% higher per capita in the UK than the United States. Your arguments do not hold water. You are still more likely to be murdered, robbed, raped, or mugged in the UK than you are anywhere in the United States. No surprise that the cities with the strictest gun laws have the highest crime. Your logic does not work when faced with unbiased facts.

          • aardvarked

            Skewed ammosexual statistics, what a surprise. How telling that you accuse people of being brainwashed sheep and then swallow up such demonstrably false bullshit.

            The two definitions of violent crime are incredibly different between the US and the UK, which you’d know if you fact checked things before gleefully brandishing them about to try and prove a point.

            “The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports defines a ‘violent crime’ as one of four specific offenses: murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.” By contrast, “the British definition includes all ‘crimes against the person,’ including simple assaults, all robberies, and all ‘sexual offenses,’ as opposed to the FBI, which only counts aggravated assaults and ‘forcible rapes.’ ”

            The robbery rates are similar per capita, the burglary rates are higher in the US and you’re four times more likely to be murdered in the US than in the UK. Keep on spewing bullshit.

          • Edward The Great

            How about this little tidbit, fuckward?

            The United States is 3rd in the world in homicide rates. But if you remove just FOUR cities from that statistic, Washington DC, New Orleans, Chicago and New York, (The four cities where owning a gun is pretty much illegal) the United States falls from 3rd from the top, to fourth from the BOTTOM in murder rates. Explain that one, you dip shit.

          • Mike Rodgers

            It includes all types of assault. The FBI has it’s own classifications, but if you look into the total crime rates per capita you will find that the US has a much lower rate. But then when have you English ever told the truth?
            Maybe when you admitted that you like Earl Grey enemas you told the truth.

          • Ran Wise

            Dam! hahahaha!

          • Mike Rodgers

            Ardverked, I should have known that you wore a murdering Brit. I guess you’re not counting all the Irish your people murder. Go piss over yourself to kiss the butchers apron.

            The countries who have every adult citizen armed have a lower overall crime rate than your fucked up excuse of a nation be cause they kill the assholes like your limey ass..

          • stacynorwood

            He is saying its more to it then just a “Car Accident ” if nothing else thats the only job they probably do well… Cops are Corrupted they are all about self and the whole department will back there own kind up if it makes them look good… sorry its the sad truth…

          • Mike Rodgers

            Yeah, I know fascist like you want to take away our only real means of self defense. Do you ever venture out of your rectum?

            You don’t need firearms for a traffic accident, let alone an A.P.C. and Machine guns. These are only useful for making war on your own citizens and that is what IS HAPPENING..

          • aardvarked

            Ammosexual logic: refuse gun control on any level, flood the country with as many weapons as possible and then wonder why the police force are heavily arming themselves and are excessively violent when responding to situations. “Demilitarize the police force”, said while holding submachine guns and assault rifles. Good job.

          • Mike Rodgers

            Shows how little you know Limey bastard.
            I don’t own a firearm of any kind, so there is no way you can cry the false lefty (as in not a real Leftwing) lie of “Ammosexual”.

            And yes we must demilitarize the police or we will be like your sassenach arse did to Ireland.

            So fuck off wasichu.

          • Ran Wise

            You just demilitarized aardvarked verbally. Dam! lol. Stop before he starts crying.

          • Ran Wise

            ahahahahahahaha!!! You’re killing me, Mike

          • Jeff Lachance

            Fire and ems play a vital role. Pigs, not so much…

          • Frank Murphy

            The reason he has the right to carry a fucking weapon is to protect himself where the police will not. More importantly to protect himself from the police. So let me get this straight. You are from what I’ve read so far, an insensitive, racist Nazi agitator who is also a fucking libtard who hates the second amendment. Did I get that right? It almost seems like you might actually work directly for the government.

          • aardvarked

            Please point to anything I’ve said that even comes close to making me look like an “insensitive, racist, nazi agitator”. Do you just throw around baseless insults in the hope of one sticking or do you truly believe that anyone who isn’t a raging idiot ranting wildly about every single police officer on a personal level is in some way condoning the actions of the cop in this article? Either option is pretty fucking dumb. Congrats.

          • Frank Murphy

            Well, I’ll start with insensitive. It is highly insensitive to the family of the child that was murdered by the state’s hired thug for you to be arguing for them or for the cop. You linked yourself with racist by speaking very knowledgeably on a racist website. The Nazi statement was due to your repeated support for the statist mindset. Mainly by supporting the idea that people should not have the rights to have firearms. There you go, now go back and read your own comments.

          • aardvarked

            Except I haven’t voiced any support for the police officer in the article whatsoever, on this website or any other. You confuse opposing someone’s insane rant with supporting the US police force – I don’t in any way. I just recognise idiotic gun laws, gun nuts refusing any sort of gun control and the NRA have a direct impact on their eagerness to use ridiculously excessive force on a regular basis.

            Stormfront is a very well known and well documented white nationalist website, there’s nothing “very knowledgeable” about my comment other than knowing it exists and what kind of things get posted there. Being opposed to civilians owning firearms makes you a nazi? What an absolute moron. The idea that you could accuse someone of being a libtard, a statist, a nazi and a racist all at the same time is pretty hilarious.

            All in all, three extremely poor ad hominens with literally no basis. Good job.

          • Ran Wise

            Checkmate!!!

          • Guest

            did i miss something , didn’t it say it was a rookie cop that shot the kid , do i detect panic in the rookie , i mean its no excuse for shooting the kid , the cop should have been trained better, Oh and by the way stop lumping lefty’s in to you second amendment arguments , most lefty’s own guns and are hunters , but believe some people should not have guns , due to mental deficiencies, anger management problems , or just to dam irresponsible to own them , like that gun rights activist and INTERNET gun shop owner who’s child is sitting in critical condition from another child in the home getting a hold of his weapon he left laying around and shooting its sibling in the face , that seems to be happening a lot now , because of idiots don’t know how to unload or not leave their weapons laying around , and as far as open carry well you never know the nut case that is walking into a taco bell with an AK47 strapped to them or walking around a target with one , you claim its your right , but in all fairness is it not the right of the mother and her child not to walking around those places with the fear that that open carry nut might just go off and start shooting , and what is the guy with the long gun afraid of , that maybe a green burrito is going to jump off and hit him in the head , or maybe a pillow in target might attack him , and don’t sit there and say if an attacker came in he would be the good guy with a gun , well guess what by the time he gets that weapon un slung he is dead , so long guns are useless in close quarters , especially if you have them strapped across your back , i think its a natural progression , that cops get more violent as we get more violent, cops are getting militarized because we are getting more militarized or something other i mean take a look we got militia’s running around we have Oath keepers and 3% and sovereign citizens and all that shit , you know the more violent we get the more violent they get , natural progression , i never used to carry a weapon before now i carry one all the time , i don’t trust open carry people nor any of these militia’s or terrorist groups so i am carrying but not openly , i like my second amendment rights and i am a lefty and a hunter animals now and before but there was a time i hunted other things , i want to keep my guns , and i view all these second amendment and gun rights nuts and open carry nuts and all these groups they are the reason i will lose my guns to the gov because they just don’t know when to shut up and stop making fools of themselves , What happened to that 12 year old kid was wrong , if it was a rookie , he should have been trained better , but all this gun crap and cops getting crazier and militarized , is our fault , Oh and by the way Japan has the lowest gun deaths in it, just about zero , but getting guns there is very hard , and if you kill some one with a gun chances are you will never make it to trial , in fact chances are you won’t make it in the cop car , Lefties want their guns for hunting , we don’t need to run around with them to make our selves think we are big bad men because we have guns , that left for the right wing to do , its a poor excuse , but it is the rights excuse

          • Mike Rodgers

            A handful of cases? You must have your head up your ass.
            Check out http://filmingcops.com/ and you will find out that you are very wrong.

          • Ran Wise

            Omygod!!! hahahahaha (on the floor!)

          • regressive teaparty trash

            im willing to show that I indeed erred; ( above) as I have read your posts and the posts of some of those who attempy2 castigate you— U seem more logical and correct
            =================================================================
            please accept my apology- I didn’t do enough “homework” prior to my ill-written post

          • aardvarked

            http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/we-aint-taking-no-nggers-here-kentucky-fire-chief-refuses-to-help-black-family-in-traffic-accident/

            By your logic all fire workers are now racist pieces of shit! When can we expect the rant about them on an individual level?

          • Edward The Great

            Because they would do this because police are not the problem, right? Remember, it is about FLEXING YOUR RIGHTS. Not kissing a cop’s ass, like you obviously do!

            http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-bad-high-school-kids-taught-deal-cops/

          • Edward The Great

            Sorry, I’ve never heard of a fire fighter beating a person to death for refusing to be helped from a burning building or refusing to be helped out of a twisted wreck. That is actually something police have done though. Suck it.

          • Mike Rodgers

            One KKK fireman vs. hundreds of civilians killed by KKKops.
            Yes I see the parallel, NOT.
            Go suck your Queens dick asshole.

          • Ran Wise

            I wouldn’t even keep responding to aardvarked. this person obviously doesn’t understand one thing: You’re entitled to your views. Whenever a person keeps challenging your personal views is a clear sign that they are trying to convert you to their thinking. You’ve expressed yourself. It’s your right.

          • Mike Rodgers

            I have a brother who is a retired MP and he agrees that these cowards should be kicked off the force. So no I don’t hat all cops, just the corrupt and murdering ones.
            The problem is with both the system and the types of people they let become cops.

            The only way a citizen might get justice is if cops skipped the grand jury process and get automatically charged every time they kill someone.

          • Black Jesus

            funny post, go feed the cat

          • Frank Murphy

            WTF is a star man argument? Enjoy being an idiot at least you’re not a lunatic

          • Ran Wise

            I took the all CAPS as an indication that he’s frustrated and fed up with the system, not lunacy. Maybe he’s been mistreated by the cops or someone close to him – we’re all entitled to our feelings based on personal experience.

          • aardvarked

            Most people with common sense are fed up of the US police system in some way, there’s a pretty clear line between criticism and frustration and straight up crazy for thinking removing the police force entirely will make the US a safer place.

          • Miles Coleman

            I’ll call you a piece of shit to your face pig, I have done it before…..tell me what department you work for, and I will gladly show up and call you a piece of shit to your face…..every time you comment, just proves more and more that you are a violent sociopath, and that proves more and more that you are just showing all of us that we are right commenting about cops the way we do…..you don’t scare me ass pirate…..

          • aardvarked

            Are all of you idiots related or what? I’m not a police officer. I haven’t posted anything even remotely suggesting that I’m a violent person or advocate violence and I don’t know what the tweets of some random English person can prove to you about cops in the US. I’m also not trying to scare you or anyone else, you creep.

          • CB

            This is murder. You can see the child is sitting on the bench with a legal BB gun and when he sees the police drive right up to him in an aggressive manner, he attempts to quickly hide the gun in his waistband. The cop fired the shot before the car even came to a stop. When did shoot first and ask questions later become acceptable? We have looked the other way so long and made such strong case law to support immunity for bad cops that this behavior is becoming the norm across the country. When they start shooting rich white boys, it will be too late–immunity will be firmly entrenched. People never study history and are therefore doomed to repeate the mistakes of the past.

          • CB

            I would love to know what part of America you live in where you can so boldly say that your children would not be beat up or shot by cops! You are living in the 50s or in denial.

          • CB

            The problem with any governmental entity or corporate entity is that one bad apple at the top does spoil the whole barrel. The majority of people conform to be accepted and to fit in or they are fearful and cower and kowtow to be accepted. They romanticize and glorify it as being loyal and true blue, but it really is a coward’s way to live. It takes courage to stand up and speak out when the truth is not popular. Very few people really want the truth because the lie has become so comfortable. They lie to their family, their boss, and themselves. Lies are just easier and much more familiar. The truth challenges a fabricate reality.

          • CB

            You can watch the footage and see that the cop was already spinning a yarn when he said the gun was laying on the table–it never was. It was in his hand and when the cops pulled up he stuck the gun in his waist band and the cop opened his door and shot the child–there was no time to say “put your hands up” or “show me your hands”! Watch the video–the cop just shot him! And then look how long they wasted playing I-am-so-afraid-of-a-dying-child-lying-on-the-ground-in-pain!!! We wait until the child bleeds out before we call 911!

          • CB

            By the time these young black boys reach puberty they learn to run when they see the Po-po! The next time you are on a jury, don’t assume just because a black man runs that he is guilty! It is called life preservation. And no, I am not black. I am a Southern White woman who has watched this go on for far too long. I thought we put alll this behind us in the 60s, but it seems now that the 60s was just the start of this long protracted war.

          • aardvarked

            It’s murder, racial profiling and terrible policing.

            http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/06/dash_cam_footage_from_open_car.html

            Look at this open-carry jackass walking around with an assault rifle in the middle of the street. The police spent 40+ minutes trying to reason with him because they didn’t want to infringe on his rights. They shot Tamir for having a BB gun in his waistband within two seconds of arriving on the scene.

            I don’t know if you replied to wrong person or not but taking issue with this psychopath’s comments in no way means I condone the action of the police in this article or in any one of the countless cases of unjustified homicide and extreme force. There are still good cops out there though, even if the system is broken and corrupt as shit.

          • lberns

            See how these police state pologist douchebags think? “Not all cops are bad” is there favorite bullshit excuse. Putting aside the they are a service provided at gun point, where’s the story about the cop being arrested for shooting this boy? What do you suppose would happen to ne of us if who aren’t adorned with a magic state issued costume if we shot this boy? It’s pathetic how they fiercely defend evil. It’s like a bizzare form of Stockholm Syndrome.

          • chris cooper

            Ever hear of spell check? I can’t even follow this post

          • lberns

            Spellcheck fascist. How original. What’s really disturbing is how you zeroed in on that and not the point that 13 other people were able to grasp the point, fuckface.

          • Can Not believe this

            So what you are saying is that it is ok to walk around a park scaring the masses with a gun if you are a 12 year old black kid. But it is sad that a police officer does not wait until he personally get shot before he stops that act. People want to blame the cops for poor parenting and a community that does not know how to raise their children to behave and act the way they should.

          • lberns

            Nice strawman

          • dsmith

            Wait til your child gets shot and killed, or someone you know dearly.

          • Sneak2988

            My kids or relatives wouldn’t get shot, or beat up by police because they don’t break the law.

          • Jeff Lachance

            Neither do about 85% of victims of police brutality….

          • Dave

            Crazy how you know these statistics. Lmao. You obviously have no idea how many god damned cops and incidents happen a day. More than all the brutality videos and pics and posts you ever saw combined. Shut the fuck up. How about you go and prove your worth and walk up to armed people and arrest them without drawing or firing a weapon on the daily as a police officer. Show everyone that in every situation everything goes according to plan and none of them pose risks whatsoever. It would only show you gamble with the lives of bystanders and your fellow partners in law enforcement. Ask a soldier what chances they take with those cercumstances. NONE. so I suggest with all the knowledge on why these people get hurt. We should know how not to and not run our mouths and fight back when shits stupidly simple.

          • Miles Coleman

            Did you see the video, he did not run, or fight back…you are pulling make believe facts out of your ass……you have no right to comment, if you can’t even substantiate what you are saying. It was a fucking kid, and you are a heartless PIG……circumstances is how you spell the word…..are you this illiterate when you write up reports for all the people you extort on a daily basis…..i guess you got about a 105-110 IQ, but that may be pushing it…..and your talking about knowledge, I bet you don’t even know what that word means!

          • Reese

            You are not a soldier. I was, and I guarantee I’ve been in much worse situations than you will ever imagine and never had to engage. It’s called training. It’s also knowing that you chose a dangerous profession. That doesn’t give you the right to hide behind your gun and badge.

          • TheTruthWash

            Why I call people like you Brothern

          • Naomi

            Lmao a soldier? We’re not in Iraq and these trigger happy monkeys ain’t soldiers!! Ctfu that was a joke right?

          • Jeff Lachance

            You dumb fuckin twat… cops dont do shit all day but harass and extort people. Just because you suck on cop cocks for a loving dont mean you gotta stick up for them there chief…. ive disarmed plenty of people. Ive been shot, ive been cut, ive been bashed with bats. Guess what?!?!?!?! I never killed anyone (that i know of)…. pigs kill because they pussy bitches with no balls

          • Citizensoldier

            A solider would open fire on a friendly area unless shot upon. Why because he was told its “friendly” which means your helping them or they are helping you. So shut your mouth you ignorant person. Its a huge gamble considering some of the best officers and millitary personnel owned, carried and shot BB guns a early ages of LIFE. Keep digging.

          • James

            I am just going to point out that this Dave character trying to throw his two sense in just compared himself to a soldier. The fact that he is trying to compare himself to a soldier means that other police officers do that same. That is a huge problem and needs to be fixed. You aren’t a soldier and you are foolish for comparing yourself to one.

          • Frank Murphy

            I will pray they do for you stating this…

          • Ran Wise

            Frank, read my comment above to Sneak2988 ^^^

          • Ran Wise

            Well, it’s obviously commendable that you’ve taught them not to break the law. However, that is no guarantee that they won’t. None of us can determine what a person would do in the future, not even our own kids. It’s possible Tamir’s (the victim) parents didn’t know he would be out there with a toy gun either. Maybe the toy belonged to a friend, we don’t know. But let us not judge others, and say what our relatives would do better than someone else’s relative or kids. At the end of the day, this child lost his life; the parents lost a son; relatives lost a cousin or nephew, grandson. Let’s try to have some compassion.

          • Miles Coleman

            how is playing with an air soft gun breaking the law……are you that fucking stupid, PIG!

          • garry

            don’t be so naive

          • shandi

            This kid was NOT breaking the law you stupid bitch!

          • Fred

            Neither did this 12 year old boy…

          • Naomi

            That’s funny I grew up in a predominantly white area in Pennsylvania and all the white kids I knew smoked pot snorted pills hell you could even buy weed off some of these white boy’s!! Do you really think their parents knew? You know you can’t say what where or who your kids are with or doing!! So please don’t feed that crap in here!! Where do you think the phrase wanna be came from? Wow delusional

          • Shane Walter Pond

            Now adays they very well could be shot.. simply being a good productive member of society simply .walking down the road… its a point you clearly are not understanding… No need to try and defend yourself cause you did a great job showing us with your words that you simply dont get what is going on in this country.. i suggest opening up your eyes getting involved and practice your rights every chance you get.. for example hi do you know why i stopped you today. where are you coming from? umm that question has no real reason to be in the line of questions cause it does not pertain to the reason he pulled you over .. get my point?

          • Bob Karma

            neither did the kid you ignorant pos. go ahead keep your head in the sand. police brutality is coming to a world near you.

          • regressive teaparty trash

            Im willing to wager serious $$$$ that U and your family are caucasian

          • Miles Coleman

            What law was broken exactly….are you trying to convince us that there is a law against toy guns…..well then, you find me that Ohio law, and I’ll agree with you…but you won’t because there is none, and no law was broken…….It takes education and fact to make a valid point, your comment contains neither…..so quit wasting comment space, leave room for those who actually think about a point they are making!

          • Sherry Gillespie

            This CHILD did not break any laws and he is very dead. Your statement is invalid and you are a dumbass sheep that watches Fox news.

          • SirTerrance Murphy

            Another idiot ,your mother should of swallowed you .

          • 53 Sinner

            You are SO naive. Have you had your head in the sand the last few years? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. When it happens to you or someone you know, I want you to remember this moment…I told you so.

          • Black Jesus

            lets take this out of usa and put the same plot in UK that kid would be alive today….

          • Frank Murphy

            You certainly are making a lot of baseless judgement calls. The young boy was 12 not 3 so his parents did nothing wrong allowing him to play with a BB gun and go to the fucking park. Not only have they lost their son to this corrupt system, but now have to possibly come across comments from idiots like you.

          • Briguy

            Last time I checked a 12 year old doesn’t have the right to bear arms. Those items are not for children and they aren’t toys. Anyone with a brain such as the person responsible for giving that 12 year old a gun obviously didn’t let him know it isn’t legal to shoot it. I know regardless of what it is, if it shoots you need some acreage to do so here. And people should know by now police do not take chances with guns. Just seeing how people speak of cops on here I’d be fucking cautious of people too. Cop probably went in with his mind all over the place. 1 For someone to say it’s a bb gun doesn’t confirm that. 2 any cop can and will shoot you for fucking around with one. Especially in public. Bb gun or not, it’s a gun. You know how those things play out with police anyway.

          • Briguy

            And be my guest to try and aim a multicolored or clear squirting gun at a cop. You will still be shot. There are a ton of people on this world who have made it so that there are no chances. People turn things into deadly weapons on the daily. I remember an article where a person used a damn supersoaker to spray acid on a woman’s face.

          • Jim Zubkowski

            if i were to aim anything at a cop it would not be a toy

          • PANTAGRUEL

            And nowhere did the cops say he pointed the gun at them, he just was shot on sight, in less than 2 seconds !

          • Miles Coleman

            you are so fucking stupid, i’m surprised you can even read or write……You just justify it because he was a black kid, and you are a fucking Pig…..don’t tell me your kid has never played with toy guns!!!!

          • Bob Karma

            that’s the whole freaking point bub! cops should NOT be so quick to execute civilians. training needs to be changed, minimum IQ requirements should be raised, all cops should be drug tested and all need body cams. all police shootings should be investigated by the doj and cops records should follow them throughout their career.

          • shall

            Children learn how to shoot rifles at the age of 12 in boy scouts and shoot bb guns as early as the age of 8. Secondly they are sold in the stores targeting children. Look around Walmart, target, toys r us. They are everywhere. And multiple times I have been places where a child had a toy gun out in public. The cop should have verified everything first. And if the recording is real then nothing after that even matters because he was warned.

          • Jim Zubkowski

            dispatch knew it was a toy so did he cop unless he is stupid

          • Miles Coleman

            again cocksucker…..and you are one, the last guy was just mistaken…..it was not a BB gun, it was an air soft gun that shoots plastic pellets, any kid can buy them…..get your facts straight, before opening your mouth and putting your foot in it……..

          • demus89

            It was a fucking air soft gun for plastic BB’s widely played with as a toy by children of this age group. I remember tons of kids in my neighborhood who had them.

          • Fred

            I was taking my .22 out, by myself at 12. not much bigger than a BB gun, but we would strap them to our backs hop on our bikes and shoot whatever we liked. Please show me in the second amendment where it gives an age requirement?

          • TheTruthGrgWash

            I felt bad to say that but my childhood was the same. We gather all the bottles off the road and set them up in the woods an shoot them. Glad I am not the only one who grew up American.

          • monkeyman503

            This is no lnger America by anything other than name and ideals in the heart of the people…certainly not on a governmental or business level though

          • cafe

            Gee never grew up in Texas, huh? Or country for that matter. Hell I knew rwelve yr olds w 30 ought six bro never mind a bb gun. This kid and his parents did Nothing wrong.l have dealt with guns to my head, on my temple. Been face down on the ground with a .40 caliber at my skull, I’ve had gangs HUNT me, Never had to kill one person. This scum blows away A CHILD and is free, paid and welcome to do it again.

          • Beaverdam

            I felt bad admiting that my generation of 12 year olds were taking .22 rifles out and shooting at bottles in the woods but you went through it to so I dont feel as bad.

          • Bob Karma

            it was an airsoft gun lol. it is a TOY! it would seem you have limited life experience if you think kids dont own bb guns, pellet guns or real guns by that age. it’s a way of life in much of rural America. i had my first daisy bb gun at age 8 as did my son. also i doubt it’s illegal to shoot an airsoft gun or even a bb gun for that matter and i’m sure that kid knew all to well how today’s coward cops are, but if you watched the video you know he didnt have time to react to anything before they executed him.

          • Shane Walter Pond

            You have never seen christmas story i take it lol.. the fact you consider a bb gun a right to bear arms shows exactly how fit your personal opinion is to be taken seriously lol.. in this case not serious at all

          • Heathen Priest

            When I was a kid I ran around all over our peaceful neighborhood with my m-16 looking pellet rifle along with my friends who also had theirs. Cops never once hassled us much less felt threatened. My dad, his dad, his dad and many generations of boys have been safe to run around outside playing with toy guns, bb guns and sling shots… Only in this mad new America are cops such damn fearful pussies that we now have to fear our children getting shot by one for doing what all boys did without any worries just 25 years ago.

          • TheTruthWash

            Im am sorry but you are allowed to shoot those when you are a kid. Ironic the officers son probally has one and teaches him how to operate and handle it properly. Matter of fact EVERYBODY I know grew up with BB guns at the age of 8. The right to bear arms. So that means any age can shoot a gun. But only a few are allowed to purchase them. Sadly but true that is why there are not many shootings from young people of any color in the country.

          • Adolph Schumer

            how do you know he was 12 and not a small person? slave

          • The Truth

            well maybe if the cop actually did police work and saw it was a fucking child and no a small person He would of known that, wouldnt he??? ur as dumb as ur question

          • mist42nz

            Even if he stole the airsoft gun from his older sibling or parent it isn’t grounds for murder by cop.
            It wasn’t a threat

          • nmgene

            an airsoft gun is not lethal under any circumstances and neither is a bb gun. A bb gun could possibly take your eye out but that is the extent of the possibilities. And I had a 22 rifle and a 410 shotgun at 12 and went hunting by myself after school every fall. Cops are liars and it is legal for them to lie to you but a felony for you to lie to them. I can show a police report with 10 outright lies in it that I can prove are lies !!!!!!!!

          • nmgene

            and there is a 44 special in my right front pocket and a 1911 45 acp under my left arm. at all times !!!!!

          • Miles Coleman

            wasn’t even a BB gun, it was an air soft gun…..even more harmless……but love your comment and passion!

          • mags

            What is a 12 year old doing with a bb gun …air gun whatever kinda gun why is a 12 year old child packing ???? and why is he carrying it in his pants like a thug??

          • MAGS

            So basically what you ppl are saying is … That if the officers are called to an incident, whether it be a robbery , threat, a child with a gun ,,,,, if they are black and because they are black , mind you committing a crime… to just let them …. so they can do what ever they want and be exempt from the rest and now don’t need to obey laws??? Tell me what exactly are saying??? because for every incident an officer has been accused of killing a black person adult/or child… again they were committing a crime!! it wasn’t because the perp was non compliant unruly challenging the officer etc. is was because they were black !!! REALLYYY!!!!!??????? get a F%%%ing grip!!!

          • Edward The Great

            Wow, you are a stupid slave, aren’t you? All I hear from sheep like you is, “Obey! Obey! Obey! Obey!”

            There is no law against airsoft guns. It was all of TWO SECONDS before the pigs shot him! Not eve giving him a chance to drop the suspected weapon, you boot licking fucktard!

          • Joe Marciana

            It only took around 2 seconds for this cop to kill this kid. How does a cop get a child compliant (if he even had time to display non compliance) in 2 seconds? Shoot him dead, it’s the easiest way…

          • Joe Marciana

            I bought my son his for christmas. But… he’s white in an open carry state.

          • Shane Walter Pond

            Umm alot of us would debate allowing our children to take any type of bb gun or airsoft gun to the park unsupervised…. Anyone with a half of brain would say No play with it in the yard NOT THE PARK

          • eric

            IT WAS NOT A BB GUN AND BET YOUR LIFE ON IT A WHITE KID WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SHOT AND KILLED IN THE SAME SITUATION. PARENTS OF ALL RACES LET THEIR KIDS PLAY WITH TOY GUNS OUTDOORS AND I AM SURE U KNOW IT.. THOSE COPS WOULD NOT BE AROUND HAD IT BEEN MY KID AND I WOULD DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES.. BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE AROUND ANY LONGER.

          • Frank Murphy

            Oh and I see you didn’t waste the opportunity to hurl an insult to the black community. Fuck you you racist waste of life.

          • shall091

            So who is to blame for all the toy guns are n the stores meant for children to walk out of the store and play with? Who is to blame for boy scouts teaching children as early as the age of 8 to shoot a bb gun and who is to blame for the teaching them how to shoot a rifle? What does this have to do with a community or the fact that he is black? Statistics prove most children who hunt and are in boy scouts do not fit that description you previously described. Second at 12 I’m pretty sure you snuck things out the house you weren’t to supposed to play with. Did you personally speak with the child’s mother or view her parenting skills or are you just being bias and defensive while lacking proper knowledge? I’m waiting to hear. Based off of your judgment I hope you have no children at all.

          • Jim Zubkowski

            a bb gun who is scared i think you made that up

          • Miles Coleman

            He did not scare masses of people….he scared one asshole who called 911, stating that it was “probably a BB gun”…..if that ass knew it was a BB gun, why the hell did he call 911…….911= free hit men, if you don’t like the way a person looks or what they are doing, call 911, we will send heavily armed uneducated death squads to take care of anyone you “don’t like the looks of”.

            And so you saying, its ok for a cop to shoot a kid for doing nothing but playing with an air soft gun…..you are fucking demented….Lets see how you fell when your kid gets shot for playing, and some ass says its your fault for being a bad parent…..God Damned, I would love to bust your teeth down your throat cock!

          • stephen

            You people are so god damned ignorant it just stretches my brain. The kid reached in to his waistband and grabbed the gun.

            Why would you fucking reach in to your waistband and grab the gun with the police pointing weapons or otherwise appearing at your location. You stupid ignorant people complaining he got shot when he made a stupid fucking decision. You cop hating stupid fucks who won’t be happy with a justified homicide until the cop himself is full of bullet holes also.

            Get fucking lives, quit living in your delusional hollywoodistic style world where cops rush people with guns and go do something with your miserable fucking lives.

          • pandora delphy

            The cop was told that it was likely a toy. Since when do cops have to respond to EVERY call with deadly force? Are you fucking kidding me? I hope someone calls a cop on you when you’re minding your own fucking business and see what happens. See how safe you feel. Asshole.

          • Melinda Craig

            Ohio is open carry.

          • Reese

            When did it become illegal or wrong for kids to play with TOY guns on a Playground?

          • Naomi

            You just made a false statement!! Correction fake gun!! You can try and make it right for the new age thug all you want!! Fact about the matter is this kid WAS NOT confrontational he DID NOT threaten police so please explain why a child is dead!! Make me believe your kids are safe although their not give me something to rely on when it comes to protecting your loved ones from being killed by gun happy cops!! You can’t and if it was to happen to your kid outside playing with his friends and bb gun I wonder what comment section you’ll be looking for warmth and comfort because I want to see how well you take to others who won’t sympathize with you because like you say shouldn’t be playing with toy guns in America!! Lol sounds about like you should be joining ISIS

          • Bob Karma

            where does it say the kid threatened anyone? did you even watch the video? the kid is clearly sitting alone.

          • Randy

            How many times have caucasian children walked into schools and killed their friends and classmates, who raised them is that poor parenting! How many plots have been foiled without the death of the child by police and/or investigators. If an adult can not out wit a non threatening 12 yr old what does that say about them there training and parenting!

          • The Truth

            An we should blame your parents on how stupid u are then???

          • eric

            YOU DAMN RIGHT IT IS OK FOR KIDS TO PLAY WITH TOY GUNS OUTDOORS AND THE KID WAS NOT SCARING ANYBODY. IT WAS A NOISY WHITE PERSON IN HER HOME BEING IGNORANT. ALTHOUGH SHE TOLD THE COPS THE GUN WAS FAKE, THE PIGS STILL MURFERED THE KID. YOU KNOW DAMN WELL IF THAT KID WAS WHITE, HE WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SHOT AND KILLED. TO TOP IT OFF THE COPS LIED LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO. THE KID NEVER REACHED FOR THE GUN AND THE PIGS NEVER SAID DROP IT, DON’T MOVE OR NOTHING LIKE THEY CLAIM THEY DID. ALL PARENTS OF ALL RACES LET THEIR KIDS PLAY WITH TOY GUNS OUTDOORS AND I AM SURE YOUR IGNORANT ASS KNOW THAT.. IT WAS AN AIR TOY GUN.. FOOL

          • engibineer

            If not all cops are bad, then why don’t the good cops turn in the bad ones?

          • Ran Wise

            Good question

          • Bronxboy47

            Answer: Because they know once you lose the trust of your fellow cops you might as well start looking for another profession, and you might even have to start fearing for your life. It is an unwritten law, written in stone: cops don’t rat on cops!

          • engibineer

            That might be the reality, but it’s not an excuse. Good cops are whistleblowers while bad cops enable the worse ones by toeing the line.

          • Bronxboy47

            Not dealing in excuses, just reality. You asked why, I gave you why.

          • engibineer

            It’s a rhetorical question designed to make people realize that the vast majority of cops are bad cops.

          • Bronxboy47

            And my reply was meant to underscore your rhetorical question. We are on the same page.

          • Jim Zubkowski

            so cops have no backbone for what is right

          • Bronxboy47

            So it would appear.

          • urworstfuckinnightmare

            But who gets abducted and jailed for whistleblowing? The whistleblowers. Even people that pointed out evident truths are dead now because they knew something the people of america shouldnt Have. Something atrocious the American gov. Has and will keep doing if we do nothing to stop it

          • eric

            WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSE TO SHOOT BACK. ITS ONLY A CRIME IF U GET CAUGHT.. HEY COPS HAVE ADDRESSES AND FAMILIES TOO..NOBODY IS UNTOUCHABLE

          • Arsenio Riviere-Jean

            That’s actually a gang rule. Its called snitching now.

          • Shane Walter Pond

            saying its just a gang rule is naive.. its a many aspects of life rule. bronx was dead on with his reply. the fact you had to mention its called snitching is funny… its called many things and what people call it is there choice.. last time i checked we didnt have a law in place to govern the use of words pertaining to what people call tattle tailing lol

          • Edward The Great

            Police: the biggest, most violent, protected and heavily armed gang in America.

          • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

            dont forget lowest IQ’s, they wont hire you if youre smart… you ask too many questions

          • Jay

            God dam, they’d HATE ME lol I ask so many fucking questions it’s not even funny… Is that a sign of being smart though?…

          • Chance

            How good can such a person really be then?further how can an organization be good when it’s member operate in the shadows like cowards? Think about how little sense that makes…i could turn my buddy in for raping that handcuffed woman…nahhh i have bills to pay and not enough competence to learn a new skill or trade.

          • mist42nz

            and good penson and benefits…and I know how cops treat ex-cops…..

          • George McJunkins

            Truth. Kinda like the MOB. With badges.

          • Charles Vella

            If the corruption was ended by cities doing the right thing, they could start over again with morals. The problem is that the cities are in the same corruption racket as the police.

          • Guest

            Because they know once you lose the trust of your fellow cops you might as well start looking for another profession, and you might even have to start fearing for your life. It is an unwritten law written in stone: cops don’t rat on cops!

          • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

            “cops don’t rat on cops”
            which means by association there are NO good cops left

          • 78’s

            That is why it is so great that they are getting a bunch of cameras that they have to wear. If a good cop turns in a bad cop he’ll be ostracized and harassed by other cops until he quits. The camera’s that Obama has ordered after his recent meeting with civil rights attorneys will help if they can’t turn them off. Either they will behave or they will be found out. and good cops won’t be forced to tell on their coworkers. This code between cops is nothing but trouble

          • engibineer

            Meh. I heard that it’s only 50,000 cameras, which isn’t that much when you think about it. They’ll probably go to places where authorities think they will have the most effect, where poor, dark skinned people live who are already under multiple layers of surveillance. Who will have access to the recordings? Do they stay sealed unless there is a warrant? Think of this nightmare scenario: the cops all get Google Glass, with special facial recognition apps that link directly to Federal databases. They’ll start thinking they’re RoboCop, except that Alex Murphy was a good one.

          • monkeyman503

            Smart post with some foresight…I research the industry, and wrote my graduation thesis on just such issues surrounding technology vs. civil liberties.

          • Edward The Great

            No gonna make a difference. Eric Garner’s MURDER was caught on video and they pig who murdered him has walked free. No indictment. The Just-Us system working as intended. As in , Not for you or me.

          • bigbird2071

            Only problem from what I understand is that the camera is pointed away from them so you only get one perspective. You don’t get to see what the cops doing.

          • TheTrithWash

            How would you like being locked up for the rest of your life with people in the same circumstances geel like you are the one who put them there. You think police would treat one of “their” own with royalties?

          • engibineer

            That criminals cannot be incarcerated safely (without fear of assault or other harm) is a problem of the penal system. And that needs to be fixed. But criminals cops are still criminals and they don’t deserve special protection.

          • Michael Thomas

            Frank Serpico is a great example of what happens when an officer blows the whistle on crooked cops. Read about him and watch the movie with Pacino about his story if you’re unfamiliar.

          • Edward The Great

            Just read the story behind it. Horrifying but does not surprise me. Idiots think this is a new thing and it’s only as isolated incidents. No. It’s been going on for decades. The brainwashing keeps boot lickers from realizing the truth.

          • http://www.facebook.com/darrell.kitchen Darrell Kitchen

            Because they are afraid. They are afraid of loosing their jobs. They are afraid of the repercussions perpetrated against their family by the “bad cops” … excuse me … by the terrorists in uniform.

          • Shane Walter Pond

            Great question, with a very simply ugly answer… they would be outcasted right away for doing the right thing.. If you had to ask the question it might be time to pay more attention and think outside the box…So we have good cops simply skating along keeping there heads down cause they dont have a choice.. now armed with that knowledge you have only one question to ask yourselfs… Would you rather have him find another job cause of the corruption or are you gonna be atleast alittle happy you have the slightest chance of dealing with one of the very few good cops… i know i know tough choice huh?

          • George McJunkins

            Because that would break the code and most likely make them a mortar even though it’s the right thing to do.

          • guest

            easy…the bad outnumber the good.

          • mist42nz

            because “accidents happen” “failure to be a team player gets a loss of promotions and unpopular beats/jobs” and “backup might be delayed”

            You think the citizens get it bad from the gang in blue? they treat their own much worse.

          • qu0cdang

            They do. And then they get threatened and fired. And then we’re back to square one.

          • engibineer

            They could also just quit and find work that let’s them be decent human beings, then they’d miss that nice cop salary. I guess everyone has their price.

          • Billy Beacham

            are you really that fuc-in stupid ?

          • Rusty Bucket

            I think Edward’s just seen enough and is pissed off as we all should be. If you focus on his anger you’re missing the message. Though he is a little harsh and hard core, I agree with him.

          • Rusty Bucket

            I’m sorry Iberns, my previous comment wasn’t directed at you. You were just at the bottom of the list and a good spot to post my comment. My comment was aimed at the people bashing Edward.

          • Will Maitner

            Yes, you need serious mental help.

          • Edward The Great

            No I do not. I am frustrated at all the bullshit cops get away with just because they think the badge grants them magical immunity powers. And cop suckers like you believe that too like the morons you are. How many more innocent people have to die before something is done? Will it take a family member to be killed by cops for no reason before idiots like you see the truth? I hope that doesn’t happen, to I try my hardest to get people to see the truth without having to lose a loved one. Losing a loved one will always change one’s views. I try to get people to see the truth without having to suffer like that at the hands of murdering cops. Open your eyes.

          • chris cooper

            All people have to do is have common sense and know that there will be consequences for their actions. Teach your children the same

          • Edward The Great

            Police rarely face consequences for their crimes, so shut the fuck up, sheep.

          • Edward The Great

            Suck my ass if you think this bullshit is okay. It’s systemic. It’s part of the system, you fuckwits. All of you defending police. This pig gets his pension, and his victims get an “apology.” It’s exactly how the system works for them and the rest of us.

            http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-brutally-tortured-innocent-people-confessing-retirement/

          • chris cooper

            Suck ass? Gay wad. musta spent plenty of hrs bending over picking up soap, spreading them cheeks wide, and saying oh yes, more master please

          • Edward The Great

            You need a serious deprogramming. Propaganda has made you a dumb ass.

          • Mike Rodgers

            You need cranial rectal surgery to get your head out of your shithole, and I don’t mean your mouth.

          • chris cooper

            Sheep? Be original and come up with something new

          • Paul Sharkey

            From your language and anger it is obvious that you are an abuser of some kind. You abuse either your wife or kids or people that you think as weaker than you. You really need help.You have annoyed me enough and I wish to waste no more time on your angry abusive being. You obviously do not hold any position of importance in the US and life in your little “Timothy McVay,uni-bomber world.” Good luck with the Feds when they come down on you! heheheheh!

          • MITCH

            Paul go fuck yourself you militant cum guzzler.

          • Paul Sharkey

            You assholes are all linked by your like of homosexual acts. It is a shame that you are allowed to vote and that your momma did not have an abortion. I am sick of your low gene pool friends. Good luck with the Feds when they come for you.

          • MITCH

            I just can’t wait till close minded old fucks like you die of so we might be able to make some progress on the terrible things that are happening in this country. How about you get of the computer grandpa because it is obvious that you can’t handle it and while your at it go to the doctor and ask him why your dick doesn’t get hard because your never going to be able to please the 12 year old boy you’ve been having relations with with a flaccid penis.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Waaaaahahahahaha you are such an easy mouth breather to get angry. You must be some delight to live with and you obviously have pedophile gay tendancies!!!! You punk ass is too stupid to realise when to stop and making a fool of yourself…keep it up jackass you are entertaining millions!!!

          • MITCH

            Once again grandpa do us all a favor and take your double chin and depends to your local elks club and rant about all your problems there.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Do you believe everything you read? I am just sitting here waiting for Ferguson Part Deux! People are going to lose their lives in the next hour,that is serious..all the rest is games. Oh and I can kick your little punk ass anyday of the week just by talking to you. So please go curl up in your Mommas lap,just like I did last night! You are such an easy target,

          • Paul Sharkey

            P.S.what have you done for your country or community except fill the sewers with your shit and the shit of your family? You amuse me,please keep it coming!

          • MITCH

            Listen guy what does my family or the amount of community service I do for my community ( which is 300hr this year) have to do with this article at all you don’t know how to argue because you are uneducated. You don’t know how to converse because you are uncivil, YOU my friend are the problem you’ve probably run around your entire life spouting your ignorant and just damn right hill billy view of the world. Fuck you you will not be missed.

          • Paul Sharkey

            300hr this year,,,in what?

          • MITCH

            Me giving my time to the community while going to college and while supporting myself. any extra time I have is given to community outreach or helping my community. You are just an incentive prick who did not receive enough love from daddy so you take your frustrations out on the internet when you are 60+ for WHAT… to fill your own ego with false hopes and lies that you might actually be important. but your not and you will die alone because you are a bitter human.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Oh my poor little boy, I am probably younger than you are and I know I am more educated,loved and liked than you are. You are a bitter fool that fears the police and authority. Like I said before,you are probably a wife or child abuser.

          • MITCH

            Im 20 years old I live in a 2 bedroom house with my girlfriend that I have been dating for 5 years I am a good person I live on my own and have a huge loving family and friends and it just pains me to see people like you romping around the internet spreading ignorant and terrible messages for no reason and I just want to tell you that YOU indeed are the problem.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Oh and that is what you are not doing? I am glad that you have a loving family. My advice to you is to not come across as a douche bag because you sound like you are a good person.

          • MITCH

            I fear police murdering people for no reason and corruption of power like any sane human with any shred of decency.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Well I agree with you on that!

          • MITCH

            And the number of argumental fallacies that you have perpetuated during this argument is absolutely incredible.

          • Paul Sharkey

            So you are smart enough to realize that? I love it!

          • lberns

            You embrace authority, you worthless obedient fuck. If anyone ever needs to understand how governments were able to so easily murder 260 million human beings in the 20th Century alone (not including war) they need look no further than authoritarian collectivist control freak douchebag fucks like you to understand why they could get away with it.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Wow you are so angry and your language speaks volumes about your thought process, You have no idea how I feel about unaccountable authority. Save it for your first rape victim.

          • MITCH

            Honestly if you were to die the world would be a better place.

          • Paul Sharkey

            You obviously have a small view of the world,have you even been out of your state you mouth breather?

          • Paul Sharkey

            I have done more for this country than you could ever dream of your asswipe

          • MITCH

            Like what?? spreading your hate around the internet wow your really doing us a favor! thank you for telling everyone they’re worthless keep it up your doing the community and our society a real service. hahah.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Not everyone..YOU are worthless and amuse me you little man.

          • Jeff Lachance

            Wow using his own joke right back on him…. awesome….

          • Edward The Great

            From my language is it clear that I am sick and tired of police getting away with crimes! Asshats like you keep making bullshit assumptions! I would never hurt another person unless in self defense! God, you are such a statist piece of shit. Good luck when police fucking pull your ass over on bullshit and beat the fuck out of you because you asked, “Why?” People like you change their tunes real quick when it happens to you. That’s the only way you morons change your minds because no other evidence is accepted by those like you suffering from Cognitive Dissonance. Go worship your government masters. Leave the fight for freedom to those of us who can think.

          • Paul Sharkey

            I pull over and beat the shit out of stupid people like you. You obviously have issues with authority and social norms. Let me guess,you are smart but have NO social skills…ah I have met many of your wothless type. Have you thought of suicide. Your responses please me and give me strength,I thank you. Keep it up.

          • Edward The Great

            So you admit to violating Constitutional Rights? You are a piece of shit traitor. Your type will one day answer to the people of the United States and her Constitution and be hung from the tallest tree for your admitted crimes.

          • Paul Sharkey

            P.S.what have you done for your country or community except fill the sewers with your shit and the shit of your family? You amuse me,please keep it coming!

          • Edward The Great

            Keep at it, traitor. Your day will come, and Patriots will laugh at mindless drones like you getting your comeuppance.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Your responses amuse me and you will be held accountable for your your lack of regard for social norms. One day you will slip and make a fatal mistake and the world will be a better place. You REALLY ARE SECOND RATE!

          • Edward The Great

            That’s rich coming from a mindless piece of shit like you. Go suck your government tit, old man. Your way of thinking spits on the memory of everyone who has ever given their lives for freedom. Statist fuckwad.

          • Paul Sharkey

            ..and what have you done that is so great?

          • Edward The Great

            I went back in time and fucked your mom. You should really show your father more respect, sonny.

          • Frank Murphy

            “held accountable for your your lack of regard for social norms” – Seriously dude? How will he be held accountable since you’re making threats? I see you are some form of military so do tell me what the state has in store for it’s peasants who don’t fall in line? Trust me fucker. We will be ready when you come.

          • Paul Sharkey

            Don’t threaten me you piece of shit! Go fuck your butt buddies

          • Frank Murphy

            What are you going to do you submissive state boot licking sheep? You think you scare me? You fear me.

          • Paul Sharkey

            You have amused and bored me enough..I am going to move on to the next mouth breather

          • Edward The Great

            You ARE the mouth breather. I’m surprised you can actually remember to breath half the time with how stupid you and your kind are. “MUH GOVERNMENT!!!” Is stupid shit you idiots say. Seems like you’re mad that I am a free man and you’re a slave and don’t even realize it. But you know it to be true somewhere in the back of your mind, and that just pisses you off. Slave. Bow to your masters.

          • lberns

            Fuck off, modern day redcoat bastard cocksucker

          • Paul Sharkey

            ..again your type is fixated on homosexual acts. Please don’t have kids

          • lberns

            Truth hurts doesn’t it, you worthless flag humping modern day redcoat descendant of pig fucking whores.

            Yeah I’m angry. I’m sick of reading shit about mother fuckers like you shooting dogs, people, and burning babies alive. Fuck you for defending evil

          • Paul Sharkey

            dude,where did you come up with all those accusations?

          • lberns

            Good luck with the Feds when they come for you.”

            This threat pretty much says it all, loyalist fuck!

          • Paul Sharkey

            That was not a threat, it was a statement to wish you luck of which you will have none! Thanks for entertaining me tonight it has been fun.

          • lberns

            No. What’s entertaining is watching fuck heads like you defend the actions of the state’s costumed mercenaries on a police accountability site. Trust me, I’m not the one who looks like a fucking fool, fool!

          • Paul Sharkey

            I have read you history of comments and you must be one miserable son of a bitch in this world. I suggest you a least rub one out tonight to make you feel somewhat better for 10 mins or go watch Asian porn. You are one MISERABLE human being and must have one miserable fucking life. I feel sorry for you!

          • Pichigo

            Damn, it’s amazing how people don’t know how to argue. All I’ve seen in the comments are people calling each other names more than anything. Grow up, all of you – both sides.

          • Jeff Lachance

            Actually some people have shown people who cuss a lot are more honest and more trustworthy.

          • Ran Wise

            Nobody has the right to call you a lunatic just because your views differ from theirs, Edward. That’s how people are. You’re sticking to the subject and did set out to insult anyone on here, but they were rude to you. You have a right to your views — likely based on your personal experience with the cops and/or based on the experiences of those close to you. Stand for something or fall for anything is my motto. STAND YOUR GROUND

          • shandi

            whoever told you that your a lunatic is the REAL lunatic and needs to just shoot himself in his head for thinking it’s cool for police to kill kids!

          • Billy Beacham

            lol , no its stupid mother fuc-ers like you Edward , You speak the truth , no your speaking out your fuc-in ass

          • Edward The Great

            You call me stupid, but your dumb ass can’t even spell. Get fucked you boot licking piece of shit. I cannot believe with all the LIES, MURDER, CORRUPTION that has been exposed in almost ALL departments, and them getting away with it time and time again, that there are morons like you that still support police. You guys are a disease. You love your oppressors. You morons suffer from Stockholm Syndrome in a bad way. Get fucked, boot licking sheep.

          • Billy Beacham

            LOL , ALL departments your so full of shit boy….big boy behind a PC talking shit , your a fuc-in pussy…..LOL you need help , dic head

          • Edward The Great

            And you are a brainless sheep incapable of independent thought. Just because you’re too stupid and brainwashed to be able to see the truth, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. There is nothing I have said that is a lie. Your tune will change pretty fucking quick when you or one of your family members are brutalized for no reason other than a cop decided to single you out in order to generate revenue.

            But please, show me where my “story” is full of shit. I can prove police are murderous thugs, but can you prove I am lying? No, because I am not a liar, but you are a mindless drone. Enjoy being a slave.

          • D-reck Gallegos

            Yeep.

          • Patriot22

            You are Indeed great Edward.

          • bigbird2071

            He’s probably a pig.

          • 1776

            they call me a lunatic too… its set up that way…. if anyone steps out of line or says something that goes against the herd we get ridiculed… as if were the dumb ones lol

          • eric

            AMEN EDWARD THE GREAT AND U HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH YOU AND ARE WITH YOU. DO NOT KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT IF IT WAS MY CHILD, THOSE TOW COPS WOULD NO LONGER BE AROUND

          • Mike Rodgers

            Go eat out your Aunt Ardvarked.

          • Jim Zubkowski

            edward the great is great and right

          • regressive teaparty trash

            no he is not,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

          • regressive teaparty trash

            actually,,,,based upon what is written by both of U here———U are the idiot

          • aardvarked

            Amazing comment and a very thought-provoking argument. Very creative use of punctuation and grammar there as well.

          • regressive teaparty trash

            not quite as “amazing” as your rebarbative initial comment,,,,,,,, but I do seek mentoring from thy otiose self in the not2distant future
            ***********************************************************************************************************

          • Durk Simmons

            aardvarked you need the help, because you suffer from cognitive dissonance, look it up. You are SO brainwashed, your mind refuses to accept what it sees. This is NOT the same country it was 20 or even 10 years ago. The system has been derailed and taken over by the corporation known as Gov’t. He’s spot on about the laws vs statutes too. Read your constitution! BTW you do not need a drivers license. Travel in this country is a RIGHT, and they have illegally converted your right to travel into a PRIVILEGE to drive, and then charge you money! Just for fun let’s see how you feel about GMO’s, Chemtrails, and same sex marrage…

          • aardvarked

            So you’re anti-science and anti-logic as well as a conspiracy theorist and a homophobe. Quite the repertoire. Are you a 9/11 truther as well?

            It’s funny that you don’t believe there’s any sort of middle ground between believing every single cop in the US is a murderous scumbag to believing that they’re all infallible heroes.

            You left out “sheeple” from your comment btw, you tin-foil hero.

          • Heathen Priest

            The only lunatics are cops and people like you in this once great nation. Get your head out of your ass please.

          • SirTerrance Murphy

            Idiot

          • Babbs

            you are the problem

          • The Truth

            YOU APPAREANTLY CHOCK ON COP DIK EVERY NIGHT!!!

          • Black Jesus

            wait till a cop kills one of your members

          • Don Talley

            The lunatic cop already murdered the 12yo, you are right we need to lock him up or hang him in public.

          • Adolph Schumer

            too late, the cop already murdered someone.

          • Unstoppable Nubian

            You’re whore mother?

          • Joe Marciana

            I’m considered pretty mentally stable and I agree with Ed’s assessment. It’s delivery may come across bat shit crazy but I find everything he said to be truth.

          • eric

            HE IS NOT A LUNATIC, HE AND MANY OTHERS ACTUALLY NEED TO START PUTTING MANY COPS DOWN A DAY IN ORDER FOR COPS TO STOP THEIR ILLEGAL BULLSHIT. MAYBE YOU NEED A COP TO MURDER YOUR UNARMED KID OR RAPE YOUR CHILD THEN LIE ABOUT IT THEN BE FOUND NOT GUILTY, LETS SEE HOW U TAKE IT

        • thatoneguy

          Thank you for your views, thank you for being educated and thank you for being one of the few who see things clearly. Cops no matter how they see themselves, are criminals. They ruin lives, everyday. Cops may do some things that are good, cops might even be a good guy and let you off on a ticket (extortion) but don’t be fooled because when it comes down to it they will never hesitate to ruin a life over something trivial.

        • Dakota

          you say you have a gun and will defend your home yet criticize the cops for their action. What if someone broke into your home with a gun looking exactly like that one and said hey it might be fake and proceeded to steal things from your house? Depending on where you live it isn’t legal to take someones life unless you feel yours is threatened so in this scenario they told you the gun might be fake yet hold it aimed at you while someone steals everything from your house. Provided before hand they tell you they mean you no harm and just want to take literally everything you own. Since we are going off completely 100% believing peoples words I am to believe you would sit there and let them take every single item from your home?

          • Chris Graviss

            There’s a small difference between a burglar in your home stealing things and a child on a playground. Find a new angle

          • Dakota

            Its very similar he said the gun may be fake so in that situation you are either going to willingly let him take everything from you for no reason or bet your life on wether the gun is fake or not. Just like how the cop is either going to take a random word for wether or not the gun is fake and thats a bet with his life. Also that call went to dispatch and then dispatch had to tell the police officer so we don’t know wether or not it was relayed perfectly to the cop. Ever played the game telephone as a kid? maybe dispatch just put it out as a kid in the park with a gun scaring people.

          • jp everyman

            It’s still a false equivalence. A person who breaks into your home with a fake gone is still in the process of committing a crime. A child on a playground is a child on the playground. If the fear is that all guns should be assumed real then we shouldn’t make fake guns AT ALL. We should only make real guns to remove the extremely difficult task of discerning a real gun from a fake gun.

          • chris

            They make fake guns with orange tips to discern the difference. This child ILLEGALLY removed the tip. He was also shooting at cars and scaring people

          • Dakota

            did you not see that kids gun it looked pretty damn real. It sounds like you’re saying walking around a playground with what people in the playground think is a gun should be fine.

          • chris

            The operator never told the cops the gun might be fake! They were under the assumption it was real the entire time. They were actually told it was a man with a gun. This kid had been running around scaring folks and shooting cars. Obviously people had problems with him in the past. Not the neighborhood boyscout who walks little ladies across the street and carries their groceries

          • Edward The Great

            I live in Texas, so I don’t have to worry. I can shoot the piece of shit. I can also shoot a peice of shit cop if they come into my home without a warrant. Cop sucker.

          • chris

            Eeww. You made a big word

          • Edward The Great

            Ewww, all you your so called arguments have had no substance whatsoever. Typical of cop suckers. No evidence, no valid arguments, just Ad Hominem attacks and whining like a bunch of babies. There is a reason even small children today do not trust police. It’s because of the actions of police, not the people. Get bent.

          • chris

            Using your big words again? Yeah and look what happened to your small child? And yes that was because of his actions . Get bent? I think I heard that in 5 th grade? Can’t come up with anything more intelligent? You don’t even have an argument let along an intelligent comment

          • Edward The Great

            And again you lack the intelligence to actually try to refute anything I’ve said. Typical of shitfucks like you.

          • AL

            the 12 year old kid wasn’t aiming the fake gun at police though. it was on a table and then tucked in his pants. also a little kid playing on a playground is vastly different than a man creeping into your home. nice try though.

          • Edward The Great

            Police always change their story as more facts are revealed that expose their lies. It’s their M.O. Mike Brown was killed nearly 200 feet away from that cop’s SUV, so he was clearly shot while running away form an actual threat.

        • Brandie.A

          You say that now… at least until you are put in that position and do protect your family yourself then all of a sudden your facing lawsuits, criminal prosecution, and oh forget about it if the news gets wind of it then you’ll be crucified in the media, all the same BS. There are stories all the time of what happens when homeowners protect themselves.

        • Ran Wise

          Edward, you have clearly defined about 85% of those in law enforcement, especially city cops who seem to have something to prove. I do believe there are good cops out there, but your comments express the sentiments and disgust of the average citizen out here, who are just fed up with cops, especially those who shoot and kill young unarmed people. The report stated the boy did NOT point the toy at the cops. Why shoot? He lifted his shirt, and showed it to them. Understand that kids respond differently than adults in a situation like this, and may not see the danger they’re in when faced with the police, added to the fact that the kid may not have believed they would kill him. Which shows that his parents probably never taught him anything bad about police. I’m just smdh about this whole thing. THIS HAS TO STOP!!! STOP KILLING THESE KIDS!!!!

        • Wolfshadow Starshine

          Keep speaking Truth to power Ed! Keep up the good fight my fellow citizen, you are not alone. 😉 Cheers! 3:)

        • Fosa Vibora

          Exactly. Stay vigiliant, brother.

        • techmarine83 .

          Right on man

        • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

          dont forget if your in a car accident and have a head injury theyll beat you into a coma because theyll assume your drunk and not complying… its as if these guys had just enough brains to make it through high school but never even close a college

        • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

          oath breakers=life takers

      • Wayne Corke

        You should not be walking in your own shoes mister, you should have expressed sorrow because your partner killed a child with a toy gun, mistaking it for a real gun, the fact it was a toy gun is clear that the slaughter was not necessary, in this case, no one wants to walk in your shoes, only losers would do that. If it were the first such case, maybe, your argument might have had some substance, but after so many thousands of instances of wrongful death at the hands of people in a police uniform, the moral high ground is lost forever.

        • chris

          Would love to see you in this position. Bet you wouldn’t know the difference. It’s not clear. It’s clear because you heard it on the news and someone told you. Something will happen to you and people will say the same

      • Your Next

        Who would want to walk in the shoes of a low life, idiot thug in a Halloween costume? When did protect and serve become above the law, retard mentality? If power tripping people like you didn’t get a job in police enforcement you would end up being a criminal since that’s the way you fucking shit for brains behave anyhow. I hope you fuckers burn in hell for your crimes against humanity. What the hell has happened to this world where wrong has become right to inbred fucks like you, abusing your falsely acquired sense of righteousness and backwards moral authority? You rape the people of this country of their liberty in the name of liberty. When do you fucks become evil and stupid as fuck. Law enforcement today has, in the majority, become a devastating blight to humanity. Thanks for sharing how fucking broken your brain is. Thanks for treating your fellow man like dogs in the name of freedom. You and your kind are not fit to be wielding the power you have been trusted with. Thanks for raping the public of it’s trust in the supposed protectors of our right to peace and justice. Officers who think like you and the mental midgets that shot that child are sick and should be put away where you are unable to harm another citizen or make a unbelievably ridiculous judgement call based on abuse of your fellow man. It’s horrible what you bastards have done to the people of this country. I hope someone teaches you a lesson one day so you can evolve out of the reptilian life forms you blatantly are. Thanks for robbing us human beings of any hope. Low-life Criminals.

        • Janine G

          “Thanks for sharing how fucking broken your brain is.”
          That’s a good one! and I said the same thing in so many words.

        • bjgollatz

          Aren’t you late for your parole officer meeting?

          • Your Next

            Not quite fucktard. However, I have been harassed unconstitutionally more than once. Go eat some doughnuts with the rest of your butt-lock buddies in the precinct. No one wants to hear idiotic crap from the likes of swine like you supporting low life scum who masquerade as officers of the peace who then committed this horrible crime to a young child, for god sakes. You disgust me. Thug. Get a real job low life.

        • Mad

          So what were you picked up for?

          • Your Next

            When I had long hair I was harassed all the time for walking down the street. What led you to taking it in the ass by the state?

      • kate

        Fuck you. You disgusting pig. I hope you take a bullet to the head.

      • Steven Connolly

        Well there has to many calls for help where the person ends up getting killed, you best be ashamed of your comment, if this is how you feel you are not fit to wear a uniform. The way it’s going we will have to have armed citizens patrolling the streets keeping an eye on these trigger happy cops that need to get a severe lesson in humiliation and a reminder they are not above the law and cops are no more special than the garbage man, post man, hydro workers, meter maids, your just a dam city worker.

      • Stephen

        My dad was a cop for 22 years and never shot anyone. He upholded the law and did what he needed to help people, not harm them. You will be one of these murdering cops who kill because someone looks at you the wrong way. Maybe you will get away with it, or maybe you will lose your mind and opt out of life in prison.

        • Peri Grinn

          Well said. My uncle served on the police force for over twenty years and nobody died when he handled situations. He was no coward either, had served in Vietnam before becoming an officer. He died of cancer a few years ago. People talked about how composed he was even when others might have flipped out but he just knew how not to be abusive.

          • Becky Lewis Garcia

            It seems like dignity and morality has flown right out the window.

          • chris

            but he just knew how not to be? wow that is a mouthful

          • Peri Grinn

            Yeah I got distracted at the last second so the wording got clumsy. heh

          • Peri Grinn

            lol okay I see what happened. yeesh I am exhausted. Between fat thumb, distractions, and quirks in this device when I try to type out posts at some sites, yeah it came out weird. should have read “he just knew how to handle it, and not be abusive much less fire a weapon.”

            These are extremely emotional issues and it brings out charged extremism from all sides especially when a kid just being a kid dies like this. All the “kill the pigs” on one side and the “animals asking for it” on the other extreme, and everything else on that spectrum in between. I wonder what the turnover rate is these days, and how much of a problem that can cause. The dispatcher did not relay the message completely (the caller clearly stated it was a mid with a toy gun but police were not told), why would caller call 911 if it was just an annoying mid with a toy, why are toy guns made to resemble real guns to much, how new was this rookie, etc.

          • Edward The Great

            That is a quality that is severely lacking in today’s police force. Yes there are a few, but because they do not “fill their quotas” and do not bully people they get the shit assignments. This is fact. if you do not fill your quota and extort money from a minimum number of people, you get shit assignments. It’s what they do to good cops.

          • Billy Beacham

            LOL what a fuc-in stupid ass you are…LOL but then there are a lot of you stupid mother fuc-ers out their

        • chris

          Upholded? Did you make it to high school?

      • Tcboomert

        Oh yeah, all you cops these days are just real life hero’s right Texas Cop? Blow it out your ass MF!!! The kid was 12!!! Do you comprehend that fact at all? Your comments say otherwise. What were you doing when you were 12 asshole? Probably still shittin your pants whether on purpose or not. You blowhard cops are totally pathetic! That’s the problem with you trigger happy DBAG’s nowadays, and I don’t mean all of you, is everybody except a fellow cop is a perp and you’d just as soon blow any of us away and claim the typical BS story you always claim, that you feared for your life rather than be a real cop. That get out of jail free card is about to expire, as you are seeing in Ferguson among other places, shit ain’t gonna fly anymore. I’m a law abiding citizen that went to school to be a cop, but decided I liked my weekends and holidays with family too much to give it up for a career in law enforcement. I don’t get cops these days. Shoot first and figure it out later is the mentality these days and if that is indeed how you’re being trained, the guy who wrote that book needs to be strung up! I’m more concerned about everyday cops than I am about criminals and thugs cuz I don’t know if it’s a good cop or a bad cop pulling me over or coming up to my door and I don’t trust any of ya as far as I could throw ya. So Texas Cop, do you get what I’m saying? That the general consensus these days is cops can’t be trusted, no more than politicians. Your buddies prove it to me every day that a lot of you are no better than common criminals. Only difference, is you get away with it. Won’t be for much longer I promise you that cuz “the people” have had enough. Being a cop used to be one of the most honorable professions ever. These days, not so much. 12 years old! 12! That’s pathetic and I don’t care who you are or what you do, it’s pathetic!!!

        • chris

          His parents should have thought of that when they were raising him

      • John Oliver

        Hey Pig, how is it that I have to be absolutely fucking certain that a “gun” is real or not, when cops just shoot any anything that is an object in the hand of someone. There are scores of reports of cops shooting people who were holding cell phones, candy bars, remote controls, wallets, hats, spoons, spatulas, and thin air! Unlike the cop who shot that kid.. if I shoot someone with anything other than a gun in their hand, that is pointed directly at me, I go to jail, but the cops get a paid vacation to unravel their nerves. If the weapon was not being pointed at the cop, then there was no need to use Deadly Force, according to the DA in my town, so….Fuck You!

      • Janine G

        phft…right. My kids dad was a police officer for many years before he “had” to change careers and my cousin is a sheriff in my county…They know better, and so should you…if you are really a cop. How many times have the police confronted grown adults holding guns and commanded that they put their guns down?…they don’t just open fire on people unless a gun is pointed at them or if it is known for a fact that the gun is real and they are going for it in a pocket or where ever it is on their person…you should know this. How simple would it have been to ask the child to put his hands up?…even two or three times if necessary. This was a kid…my own kids freeze up just from us getting on them about something, if this child did in fact hear the officer command him to put his hands up, he was probably frozen with fear and confusion…Most adults know that fear and confusion causes people to freeze in place…this child’s behavior is totally expected..and he didn’t have the gun in his hand…also if they wanted to be the big bullies that they are, they should have shot him in a non lethal area. I’m serious, it should be mandatory that ANYONE who is applying to the police academy should get a very extensive psychological evaluation as well as have an I.Q. higher than a 3rd grader!! I happen to know some police officers who have no business being one…It scares me to death knowing they have a license to carry gun and make decisions that affect people’s lives. One woman I know who has a badge and a gun is a complete psychopath…we’ve known her since she was in high school and she goes around letting everyone know who she is and what she does…the same kind of thing many of these cops do…It’s a retarded power trip. What’s funny, is they think they are so cool, or have this big head and everyone around them are all thinking what a complete idiot they are…I imagine that is the case with most of these cops who go around shooting kids and bullying innocent people.

        • chris

          Educated much? ” they have a license to carry gun” A little proof reading wouldn’t hurt at all. They do get psychological evals honey. You say they should’ve asked him to put his hands up but then say maybe he didn’t hear them ask him to put his hands up. Which is it? “she goes around letting everyone know who she is and what she does” wth does this have to do with the price of tea in China? “everyone around them are thinking” do you know anything about word comprehension? And no-none of this is funny freak

          • Janine G

            Yes, Genius. I am “MUCH’ educated. I hold math and science degrees and minored in psychology. My Ex was a cop and I have close family who are cops. How bout you? lol….It’s quite obvious that you are not educated nor can you “comprehend” anything.

            Duh, genius, when did I say they didn’t have a license to carry? What does that have anything to do with protocol?

            Your quote: “A little proof reading wouldn’t hurt at all.” What did you find that I did not in respect to the fact that a license has anything to do with any of this? It doesn’t genius. Stop talking/writing, your IQ is showing. Obviously cops have a license to carry…Why would you assume anyone doesn’t know that? We aren’t all 3 like you.

            Why in the world would a genius such as yourself reply to something without reading it first? You are the genius that didn’t read what was right in front of your blind azz. When did I once say that they didn’t get psych evals “honey”???? Derrr, read again genius, maybe read it a few times so you can com-pre-hennnnnnddd. I explicitly said “it should be mandatory that ANYONE who is applying to the police academy should get a very “”E-X-T-E-N-S-I-V-E”” psychological evaluation as well as have an I.Q. higher than a 3rd grader!! I happen to KNOW “honey” that their psych evals are NOT extensive!! uuhhhhrr!

            Not only do I have family who are police officers and sheriffs whom I know had BASIC psych evals, but I know a “factual” psycho path who holds a badge and carries a gun!

            AND Are you completely STUPID?? You REALLLY CAN’T COMPREHEND CAN YOU? LOL!!! You quoted me: “”she goes around letting everyone know who she is and what she does” wth does this have to do with the price of tea in China? ” Uhhh, read it again genius. I related a person that I and many of my friends and family know who has a badge, and has no business having one because she is a complete psychopath, to the idiot cop who shot the kid. R-E-E-E-A-A-A-Dah. It really helps to understand what someone is saying.

            You made an absolute idiot of yourself with your comment, lol. Everything you said about me was completely wrong, but which you did YOURSELF, AHAHAHAA. Not educated and pays no attention whatsoever to what you’re commenting about making yourself look like a complete moron = can not comprehend.

            Sorry, reply if you want, but I’m not wasting my time reading your uneducated, retarded, no common sense rants. lol. You are a TRUE GENIUS!…Honey. Buahahahaha. ;D

            Oh, and I love how you signed off with your name “freak”…It’s very fitting.

            Where do these fools come from??? Just hanging out on news forums waiting for a chance to contribute something, hoping that it makes them look smart. hahaha. Truth.

      • Mark Kennedy

        god bless the people you are protecting, it’s idiots like you who scare the shit out of me

      • TennMan

        Texas cop go choke on a dick please

      • edwards

        Fuck you, you peice of shit, the police are supposed to be civil servants to protect and serve. Any person cop or not that shoots a 12 year old boy is a fuckin pussy ass coward who has no right to a position of power. Regardless of the fact that this kid had a “gun” there was a preconceived warning that the gun was fake. To just shot a child because your a scared ass peice of shit that would rather hide behind his own gun and take the life of another person instead of doing his job and investigating the situation. Fuck you, im out!

        • chris

          to just shot a child? Can anybody right a decent sentence?

      • R3V01UT10N

        You are a fucking piece of shit. I hope you burn in hell. You and all your other pig friend bastards. Life matters you faggot.

      • Midyin

        Awwww, boo hoo hoo! Let’s stop feeling bad for the slain child or his grieving parents, and cry for this poor unsung hero..

        Get over yourself. If you want us to stop hating on the police, then how about yuns try to stop MURDERING CHILDREN! How about yuns stop beating the shit out of people! How about yuns stop protecting your bent/corrupted “Brothers in blue”! And start acting like POLICE and not a bunch of fucking MOBBSTERS!…

        • chris

          Yuns? English? How about people raise their kids with respect, supervision and with consequences for their actions

      • PUNK cops HAVE GOT TO GO!

        Look here, bottom line a KID was murdered by a PUNK cop. No reason for that. A BB gun can not kill a BP vested PUNK cop. The PUNK cop should have taken his time and figured out what was going on. This shot first and shot more is not okay. Period. If your scared then don’t go to work. Get a job sweeping floors or something where you don’t have a weapon and ammo. Someone lost there son over a toy. PUNK cops do this stuff almost every day and then say sorry but I had no choice. In any other country this PUNK cop would be a terrorist.

        • chris

          There were other people in the park including other peoples kids (kids who weren’t out terrorizing and shooting cars)

      • Chels

        You are absolutely right. You have a very dangerous job and parents need to be teaching their children that taking, playing with, or pointing realistic fake guns at people will get them in to serious trouble or worse. Also from the report the child did not follow the command of raising his hands in the air instead he tried to pull the gun from his waistband. Parents also need to teach their child to follow directions as they are givin and to respect officers and auauthority. Thank you for your service sir and stay safe.

        • chris

          Amen. People are saying the officers should’ve known it was fake. The gun looked very real. Not to mention the tip identifying it as a toy had been removed. These guns have caused serious injury. This child had been shooting cars and terrorizing people in the neighborhood. This was a consequence of his behavior. It was a preventable tragedy but his parents played a big role in their teaching

      • AL

        I’m sure the “pleas and cries for help” are coming from the old people or kids whose necks you’re standing on or needlessly beating.

      • John Anderson

        Try not to shoot any kids or dogs.

      • http://Sott.net/ Joe Quinn

        It’s a shame there are people like you, so ignorant of the REAL issue here, who jump in to the defense of trigger-happy cops. Pick a goddam side! It’s animals or humans. Which are you?

      • Troy Younts

        Fk the police, no justice , no peace!

      • MITCH

        And by precaution he means shoot said person in face

      • Mike Rodgers

        He should have been using a non-lethal weapon, but no this is just another murdering pig, as I would guess you are.
        I’m sick of people like you making excuses for cops that are nothing but murdering cowards.

        As for you, you Lover of child killers, when you return to the kennel tonight tell your mother that she’s the worst fuck I have ever had.

      • http://1111111.com/ Seantown[ᵐᵒᵈ]

        “Walk a day in my shoes responding to your pleas and cries for help by shooting you and despising you and considering you all beneath me.”

        there i fixed that last bit for you.

        Also, anyone who comes on this site with the name “Texas Cop” and writes the above is a troll looking to stir up shit, so based on all the replies and replies to the replies…. congrats ‘Texas Cop’ whos actually some 17 yr old in his moms living room.

      • DISGUSTED!!

        Ya know you are the one showing nothing but complete ignorance by saying what your saying about the way it took place and placing names on whomever just because your a so called cop doesn’t give you the right to justify what happened yes y’all are placed in dangerous situations every day which is what makes this story even more of an example of WHY THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY THE SO CALLED IN DANGER POLICE OFFICER DAM WELL COULD HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO TALK NOT YELL AT THIS CHILD AND DEFUSE THE SITUATION AND YES MAYBE EVEN BEEN ABLE TO GET THE GUN IN HIS POSSESION BEFORE HE JUST DECIDED HEY HERE’S A THUG NO FUTURE HERE AS LONG AS I’M ALIVE RIGHT!!! 12 years old DAM WELL know he was terrified and this or these officers just coming at him like there fuking PYSHCO Well how did that work out for them hmmmm….Ugh there’s so much more I could say believe me but what’s the point because it’ll always be the child’s fault or wrong doing because Lord knows police never jump the gun physically or theoretically do they !!!:/ Just know this I pray the officers involved never have a good nites rest ever AGAIN GODS WAY OF AT LEAST MAKING THEM FEEL THE AGONY AND DESPAIR THAT LIL BOY FELT AND HIS FAMILY WILL FEEL THE REST OF THEIR LIVES UNTIL JOINED WITH THEIR ANGEL AGAIN!!! And to his fam GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND MAY YOU HAVE SOME PEACE IN YOUR LIVES!!

      • Cyndi Houser

        So your saying the only right response the cop had was to kill him. What happened to the way cops would shout hands up your under arrest.

      • Cyndi Houser

        Don’t know why cops are so trigger happy. I hear more about cops killing then I do about cops being killed.

      • Frank Murphy

        Walk a day in this boys mother or fathers shoes you fucking worthless coward

      • Landon Parks

        So, you just like randomly shooting little kids? You’re a terrible person. Don’t like your job? NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO DO IT. People should not have to walk a day in your shoes. If you don’t like your own shoes, FIND A NEW PAIR! Cops like you (the ones doing it just for the paycheck) are the problem. Well, you, and they bullies who never could find a real job…

      • texas cops are pigs

        just shut up, guys like you, got us all gassed last time.

      • lancia di leonidas

        Texas Cop, I have, in both Iraq & Afghanistan, under situations far more dynamic than anything you could possibly fathom. In short, I’m telling you, you don’t know shit, just like the single-minded opportunist who shot the kid. Take a look through my situation which included your comrades over this way in Arizona. These god damned idiots fucked up multiple times. They realized it & realized, they couldn’t reverse themselves, couldn’t take back any of it & couldn’t apologize. Your comrades over here didn’t stop misrepresenting themselves or miscommunicating data. You’re one of these illustrious cops who evidently feels everybody else needs to succumb to your greatness. So, here you go. You can research my “false-as-fuck arrest”. Research, DR 201300738459, Phoenix, Arizona.

      • Patrick Owens

        Oh look, a Pig defending a Pig..How bout you walk in that boys shoes in the last 5 minutes before your Brother Pig shot him?

      • Jim Zubkowski

        no this exposes these idiot police officers gun was a fake its a young boy cop couldnt out smart the kid ,couldnt tazer ,couldnt call back up he shot a child and murdered him fuck you texas cop you morons have built this up to civilians against cops not our fault yours and your days are coming there are more of us pissed off people than you

      • Miles Coleman

        your opinion after seeing that video is despicable…….shut your hole ham sandwich, no one cares about you opinion because you are a pig, and part of the problem…..you are a murder yourself, i can see by your opinion of this incident. Some day you will pull over the wrong person, and get what you deserve, until then please refrain from commenting in support of murder….PIG!!!

        • Miles Coleman

          And how is this article, not website despicable, for showing a video of what actually happened?

      • Bushido Lump

        they never said a word to that kid they fired as soon as they opened the door you can see it in the video.

      • Exavier

        Honestly that’s a pretty lame excuse. The cop didn’t know it was a gun so in less then a second he gets out and shoots the kid? He was clearly close enough to use non lethal means to disarm the kid but instead chose to shoot first. There is a reason why more complaints are being filed against overly aggressive cops and more people are calling for body cameras. Because of more and more cops like this assuming the shoot firs and ask questions later. If you’re really a cop you should know that was not always the prevailing mentality among so many officers today. If your kid or someone in your family was shot and killed because a cop chose better safe then sorry I doubt you would be trying to justify it. Sadly there is to many situations like this to mention now where people were harmless and the cop simply ran in and shot the person or someone’s pet for no reason. Such as the guy in Walmart in Ohio who bought a BB and was simply standing there on the cell phone. Cops ran in and one capped him, no questions asked. “Better safe then sorry,” I guess. To bad video proof shows the man was in no way threatening to the police. Never even saw it coming.

      • Wolfshadow Starshine

        Just for you Texas pig. -_- Indubious – Punk Police – dedicated to the Occupy…: http://youtu.be/EjLE7t_DQfU
        Just say in. 😉 lol

      • JonEdHil

        I suggest you check out the whole site before you pass judgment. After all, you guys have not done a very swell job policing yourselves now, have you? What is truly despicable is that we live in a nation where no one is there to protect us from rogue cops. You might say they’re rare, perhaps, but what is NOT rare are the cowards who are aware of the bad cops and do nothing, except excuse their actions or remain silent. I have heard for so long I am sick of it about cops’ disdain for the “snitch” mentality on the street, yet the exact same mentality exists in every single police department. It’s called the Thin Blue Line.
        This site only serves to present that side of law enforcement many have known about for a LONG time (I have relatives, past and present in law enforcement, so I do know a little about it), but have been powerless, silenced, and/or intimidated into that silence to keep quiet about. Here, they can present actual, untouched footage and real news stories of the filth that roam our streets seemingly in search of their next victim. It does make one wonder if the only difference sometimes between the cops and the Crips is that one gang does their gang-banging under the color of law.
        Perhaps your dislike of this site is evidence of your surprise that your profession’s dirty laundry is being–finally–aired in public, just like everyone else’s. Well, help change the atmosphere: do some laundry yourself, quit bitching about your fellow officers’ being “caught”, and do something productive to ENCOURAGE citizens’ trust in you besides whining about a website.

      • dara

        He was a child! how would you feel if that was one of your babys! I am seriously afraid to let my children do anything. and not just because of other normal people but because of pigs like you. yet you monsters will let dope fiends run wild. great job you fools have done.

      • Lewis Boucher

        You’re a fascist pig. You are part of the problem.

      • Lewis Boucher

        Do you shoot dogs and children too?

      • jack rickson

        Your just plain stupid to say that just because they re cops does not give them the right to shoot and kill whom ever they please i hope they get what they deserve not by human but by Gods hand.

      • Jason Shults

        How about you step out of those shoes if you are going to defend this behavior? Nobody wants you to have your job if it means you would do the same thing in the same situation. I have this idea, and you are proving me right: cops who don’t stand up against this murdering abusiveness are just as guilty as those who are doing the killing. What do you think? What are you going to say to your Creator when you have to stand before Him? “Yeah, they was POS criminals, and I took ’em down.” With all due respect, officer, quit.

      • Arsenio Riviere-Jean

        I understand precaution. That’s a cool excuse . That’s why you drive RIGHT up to someone that would have a live fire arm. Element of surprise maybe

      • Jackie

        Pray tell, why did the cops pull up directly in front of the child if they feared he could harm them?

      • shane

        Shut the fuck up you inbred pig.

      • eat shit buddy

        I pray your child is the next to be shot by another police officer…

      • gina

        Really? Couldn’t even just stop him by shooting him in the leg? The arm? Nothing????? This child did not need to be shot regardless, but REALLY? Since I’ve raised a child in Arapahoe County, where “Sheriff of the Year” before retiring on taxpayer dollars, has been raping children for years, selling meth, and murder. The jail was named after him. Look it up. Look up how many cops are getting caught raping kids, murdering dogs. This profession is a DISGRACE and I used to support cops. The over twice the domestic violence rate? What about the areas where a cop’s i.q. cannot be too high? It is despicable to even go into this “profession” and notice the good cops, what there are, are beginning to resign. Go ahead and stay in it and keep up your nonsense. The world is awakening thanks to camera phones. Caught red handed. You should be embarrassed.

      • Jim Couch

        Cops are trained to be cowards and back shooters, these two were know different. if this was one of their kids playing with a BB gun and a neighborhood watch rolled up on him and ask if he had a gun and the kid lifted his shirt and said it is a toy and was shot like this they would be insane with anger! These fascist Pigs didn’t give the kid a chance to lay down the toy or even put his hands up they just JUMPED at the opportunity to KILL SOMEONE and to them it was a bonus the he was BLACK!

        Texas Cop it is a fact that Americans are TEN TIMES more likely to be killed by a Cop than a terrorist. You people are completely out of control! Law Enforcement is the largest organized crime gang in the country. Abusing forfeiture laws to steal the personal belonging of Americans, killing them at every opportunity, abusing their power and positions and extorting gifts and payoffs daily. You’re a low life POS and you know it.

      • Ronnie Coulson

        I will admit cops do put their lives on the line everyday, but that does not excuse the shoot first ask no question mentality of these murderous bullies hiding behind a badge. There is no reason to fatally shoot a child, unless maybe they are strapped with explosives and being used as a human bomb.
        There are too many instances of police brutality and a civilian is expected to sit there and take a cop beating the shit out of them all because they have a badge. If a cop injures himself beating you, you can expect him to press charges against you, if you have the nerve to defend yourself (which is the right of all living beings) you will find yourself in worse trouble, or dead. In any case after the cop beats and/or kills a civilian, in most cases all he will get is a paid vacation, absolutely no ramifications for killing a civilian

      • Chance

        Wow dude, cops are always the victim huh? So be it, but I hope like fuck there aren’t ignorant brutes running aroumd with guns, little to no accountability who aren’t capable of deescalating ANY situation with a 12 year old without lethal force. If a 12 year old gets into your head, i have to wonder why you would be elected to be an officer In the first place. Police in my city make 180k a year and they don’t feel any obligation to the people who have to work and actually be accountable for their porformance. Then they also want to be portrayed as heros, that’s asinine. Either suck money from us and actually act heroically or drop the entitlement and recieve resomable wages and then if you want to be a soldier pig at least we won’t be extorted in the process.

      • B Saulter El

        You are just another coward covering for the cowards out killing poor people and minorities in this country. Until you cowards get the balls to stand up against the obvious corruption and abuse of authority within these police departments “we the people” will not listen to a word you have to say. Get a grip on reality you coward…we don’t need anyone that won’t respect the rights of citizens! “We the people” will take our country back from these corporate ass hats that think they have been ordained as judge ,jury and executioners!!! Your time is nearly up and “We the people” will be voting for representatives that will hold the pigs accountable and force them all to wear body cameras and charge them when they break the laws they have sworn to uphold!

      • Chance

        Less than 5 % of emergency calls are successful in allowing an officer to prevent the crime..you know this though. Ill humor your assertion that police are remotly capable of preventing random violent crime, but why chance it when a 12 year old frightens you enough to take his life? That’s not really my idea of help, in fact i would hope your likes never potroled or responded to my neighborhood because we want selfless people as public servants or not at all. It does us no good for you to only consider yourself.

      • COPKILLER

        your a GOOF I HOPE YOUR HEAD GETS BLOWN OFF

      • upagainstthewall

        I invite you to walk a day in mine Sir. My children deserved to have their perpetrators held accountable for the sexual abuse they endured. Instead I have met too many officers that are indifferent to the sexual abuse that some children are forced to endure.
        Where are the heroes? In fairy tales of course. That is why so many rape victims never find justice. My only solace is knowing that “healing” can take place even when those in government refuse to hold perpetrators of sexual crimes against children accountable.

        I suppose I will make it clear that I am angry with the justice system. I was once told by a retired parole officer, that officers are well aware that it is how their reports are written as to whether or not perpetrators are going to be held accountable. That explains the numerous dismissals of my concerns for protection order violations that ended with the perpetrator not being held accountable.
        What have I learned Sir? That oppression and favoritism are rampant. I don’t have a criminal history. I do not make regular visits to the county jail. I have been arrested for false allegations that were quickly dismissed by the district attorney … yet those reports, that were written with a blatant bias, will not hold anyone accountable… not for the theft of my car, the robbery of my house, the sexual abuse of my child, the numerous stalking order violations, the threats to end my life made by my stalker (dismissed by officers who stated that my stalker has a right to freedom of speech), and the list goes on.
        So please, Texas cop, please feel free to walk a day in my shoes. I am riddled with ptsd, and the worst is that I have come to the realization that justice does not exist for the poor in our country. Now go make a traffic stop and collect that revenue. You have a quota to fill don’t you?

      • Justin

        Fuck the police Justin

      • Jay

        Thank God for websites like this, You are currently a cop and you think this was correct? You are as untraIned and dangerous as these guys are, Go turn in your weapon . You are a danger and a menace to society. Are you trying to say that this was the right way to handle this?
        Was THIS how you were trained? Either your training has let you and society down or you are just a yahoo looking to be important. I know many cops that say this is NOT how they were trained to handle a situation like this. How about demanding from a safe distance for the gun to be dropped?
        No one said let your guard down. Just let down the cowboy and Indian mentality and grow up. Have you or your children never played with a toy gun as a child? If you are this afraid that you cannot think of any other response than shooting ,then go get a job that your education level will entitle you to….practice asking if you want fries with that. If you want the bigger bucks act like a man and utilize proper training.

      • Missouri Parent

        Why do you fear being filmed if you’re not doing any wrong? How many kids have you murdered? Please don’t kill any more of our children. No one here wants to walk in your murderous shoes/jack boots because we’re not self-righteous, barely trained dolts who believe we’re in charge of the rest of the country These cops are the new gangsters my fellow Americans. The only pleas and cries for help here are out of fear of wing-nut cops like yourself murdering innocents and getting paid by the people you kill.

      • Miles Coleman

        Is there not a cop out there, who can see how wrong this shooting was, or are all of you trained to defend each other with moronic comments and the way to over heard “he was in fear of his life”. You and your buddies prove the point of people like me and groups like cop block just by opening your mouths and commenting…..how could anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence and compassion, not see this child,s death as a tragedy and that the actions taken by this officer were way too extreme. Personally I think you become cops because you hate people, and especially people that look different than you….You think it is your job to eradicate anything that causes you the slightest bit of fear…..how does it feel to be that big of a pussy, because I truly have never been that scared of anything in my life, and I am genuinely curious about it.

      • Ricky Spanish

        http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/22/man-gets-stabbed-on-subway-guess-how-hel
        Why would we call a cop? They have no duty to protect us, according to them and supreme court!
        But then i forgot police never make mistakes do they?
        http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/11/aiyana-stanley-jones/
        Must be why the fight everyform of accountability they can
        http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023717834_spdofficerslawsuitxml.html

      • Against Public Servants

        Another public servant protecting his gang, justifying reasons for the shooting.

      • craigm2379

        I bet YOU just love the action also….

      • SirTerrance Murphy

        You’re a pig

      • Arnt Johnsen

        Fight NRA instead of shooting innocent people either they have plastic toy or not and people might even trust you.

      • Free Man

        Regardless of the merit of the reporter – you are a cocky piece of shit. “pleas and cries for help – walk in your shoes for a day,” No fucking thank you – how many people have you fucked with and sent to jail for nothing – roaming with your gun and phony badge. You’re nothing but a revenue generating, thieving, child molesting, extortionist prick. AND you wonder why you no longer have the respect and trust of the American people. Go where I have been – shoulder a rifle and man-up. Your days of police state master are coming to a close. Before you’re done with your criminal assaults against the American people – 12 year olds will take your lead and be armed for real. Along with the rest of us. Revel in your time – the sun is setting on it – asshole.

      • Fosa Vibora

        You arrogant, pompous, fucking coward. I’ve walked days in boots that would break you as a man. We show more restraint than terrorists who actively try to kill us you Gestapo, undisciplined, cowardly scum. We vets are watching and we aren’t happy. We sign up to defend Americans and this is what you do when we’re overseas? That cats are back and it’s time for the mice to stop playing.

      • texas cop is a bitch

        Texas cop your an imbocile….your job is not nearly as tough or dangerous as you think….how abouy you walk a day in the shoes of an impoverished black man and see how your pig brothers persecute manhandle and murder blacks at will….police always say that they have such a dangerous job….in reality you arent even top ten….hey give this message to your swine brothers….STOP MURDERING PEOPLE ….50 fuckboyzzzz

      • Fitzy23

        If you choose to take this power hungry job, you need to except the fact that you put YOURSELF in danger for what is supposed to be the greater good. Rather than meaninglessly taking the lives of others and making the public FEAR and hate you, maybe take a crash course in “PROTECT AND SERVE”… start thinking about what is right and best for the lives of the community, rather than what is easiest for you in this ONE situation of your life… we need a new system of choosing who gets put in these positions. Stop leaving it to the police academies and the corruption filled government to producing the people we see as a threat, when their opinion of a good guardian of the community is exactly the egotistic and impulsive asshole that we have to fear… we need people that want what is best for others, not what is best for themselves… cops are a joke and 98% of them are BAD cops

      • AverageJoeSF

        I know that most cops are honorable people just trying to do their jobs, and I truly appreciate your service.

        You also know goddamned well how much abusive and illegal behavior goes on in police work.
        How many times have you turned a blind eye to a colleague doing something you knew was wrong?
        The system we have makes it almost impossible for good cops to flush out bad ones, and you know it.

        Cops wear body armor. Civilians don’t. The news is full of stories of cops abusing their discretion.
        Dealing with criminals all day has a way of making cops view everyone as a threat, and that’s a problem.

        How do you define “service?” Does it mean your life is worth more than a citizen’s?
        Real soldiers adhere to strict rules of engagement. Police officers need to do the same.

        I’d love to discuss your experiences, hit me up if you want a conversation.

      • TheTruthWash

        Are you stupid? Ok they pulled up an what do you know its a 12 year old. Two officers. One aims the gun the other officer tries to obtain the weapon. If things get bad the other officer can pull the trigger. A: officers are trained to shoot at the largest mass on a someone(the body) B: they have a bullet proof vest C: before any of that a tazer should be used D: If it is a serious (your life or anothers) matter then you call in some officers in swat gear. I mean if your scared for your life over a 12 you need to get the fuck out the force because your the reason why they criminal would pull a trigger against a officer. You murder a child and try to act like a hero. Your a coward. It isthe sanm as killing your comrade, they thought you were to serve and protect them. And duh the police can get away with anything like take items from the sceene and never show it in court. Who saw who take what? O he is just pissed off because I arrested him and will say anything to get out.

      • Montanamist

        Only time to call a pig nowadays is if you want assisted suicide.

      • justice

        No one wants you to help you are obviously jaded and stupified by your uniform you dont help anyone but yourselves .if they were being so cautious why did they drive right up to the CHILD and why does it look like one of the officers fell and most likely accidentally discharged his weapon lol you make me sick supporting murdering thieves for your own enjoyment what a sick and disguting human you must be to believe that this vile enterprise known as the american police has any consideration for anything but itself you all are just the largest gang mafia cartel terrorist organization in this country and frankly we dont need or want you so stop killing people and instigating violence you fuckin tools of oppression

      • Raji the Green Witch

        You’re an asshole… a trigger happy asshole and if you really ARE a cop, YOU are part of the problem. You have the WRONG f—king attitude to be out on the streets, charged with protecting the public. YOU need to have your badge and gun TAKEN away from you and YOU need to look for another way to earn your living. WE, the Public, do NOT need an asshole like YOU running around on OUR streets.

      • Sgt. Killgood

        YOU SIR ‘ are a stupid dumb ass who needs to read the second amendment . This is an open carry state . It’s people like you who need to have there balls shot off .

      • xxxlibertine

        Go fuck yourself you lying Nazi bastard . . .

      • Richard lionheart

        You are a threat to citizens of the United States.

      • D-reck Gallegos

        I live in Texas. Fuck you pig.

      • karl

        Ok, that’s great. So how do you justify them immediately shooting this child? You know, instead of jumping on him or some shit when the weapon isn’t even in his hand?

        You guys aren’t needed anymore. You can only help when the crime has already happened.

      • Jason Maffettone

        You’ll get yours pig. One day soon your entire system will come
        crashing down and let us see how the people you have brutalized respond
        to your pathetic excuses. I hope they make you beg to die.

      • Shane Walter Pond

        i have a idea.. how about maybe stoping the cruiser alittle sooner and use as a barricade while you bark a order like freeze, drop the weapon… this was a scene straight out of grand theft auto… door flys open shoots the kid right away and moves to the back of the car… this is no justifying this at all

      • The Truth

        SHUT THE EFF UP!!! U GUYS ARE USELESS AND IRRESPONSIBLE MORONS!!!! LET HIS GUARD DOWN THEN DONT PULL RIGHT UP ON SOMEONE U THINK HAS A GUN AND THEN START SHOOTING..YOUR SERVICES ARE NOT NEEDED EVER!!! GO KILL YASELF!!! All u guys do is make excuses for your inability to actually do any police work…. God forbid u do a job with out taking a life..And the cop who killed this child was fired for being and incompetant and emotiionally unstable and unable to be cop from his former job…GTFOH!!!! Go sawllow a bullet and do the public a favor!!!! DAMN PSYCHO!!! JUSTIFY THE MURDER OF A CHILD UR A DISGUSTING HUMAN BEING…BET U BEAT YA WIFE AND KIDS AND UR AN ALCHOHOLIC TOO

      • richardruscoe

        A 12yr. old boy, with a toy gun. Texas. Construction workers have a more dangerous, higher risk job. If 107 people like your comments, I hope their home teaching their sons how to play with dolls. Or do dolls put an officer, in fear of their safety? Have a good one, all you Rambos. Think, 12 years old… toy gun. Defenseless. May God move in your heart, and give you the wisdom, you obviously lack. Or choose to act against.

      • Rand Christman

        Police are supposed to be educated and professional. Did you miss that part?

      • alienproxy

        Go fuck yourself, officer.

      • George McJunkins

        With a toy that looks real as that one, yes precautions should be taken. But leathal force was too much for a non aggressive minor. There are many non lethal options that could have been used.

      • urworstnightmare

        Break my door down without a warrant get shot in the fucking face.

      • Dennis Jared

        well you sir are an idiot real or fake the video clearly shows them pull up and blast the kid no questions its bullshit end of story

      • Benjamin Ours

        Fuck you and your shoes….. You are part of the problem asshole.

      • Sirrus Rider

        Except the cop performed no due diligence. He got out of the car and shot first asked questions later. It’s all on film. No “drop the weapon” He just got out and capped the kid’s x ring. The only thing he didn’t do is shove an apple in his mouth.

      • kylr

        The way they rolled up they had no intention on policing anything. their plan which executed perfectly is very commonly taught. they rolled within feet of him shooting before even exiting the vehicle. If they had an interest in finding out what was going on they would have been 15-20ft back covering in the door jams. which is also very commonly taught. Them scumbags wanted a paid vacation. Of course they got away with it to. We as the people need to start coming together against this corrupt government. Race doesn’t matter anymore it’s the people vs the police state. Next time you see police brutality everyone needs to have the persons back. they’re not going to shoot anyone if everyone stands up for that person.

      • Tony Velez

        sorry texas cop, your corrupt fascist mind is brainwashed by the training you presently receive to serve your masters ( the bankers,corrupt court system ) & now to call a cop to help is a BIG mistake as most are trained to shoot & possibly kill 1st than to remedy a situation or to help fix a problem, the day YOU speak up & castigate your fellow cops for their wrongdoings is the day you will gain some respect, till then, stay blind or till some cop beats the living shit out of your family members will you understand why the hate of this present police force we regular citizens face daily, more & more murderous as the centuries pass by, sad but true, god bless us all

      • gee

        really man?? Did you not look at the video? Im a former cop and I didnt see any commands given….it was a drive by. Plain and simple…..the rookie was scared shi*less and wasnt ready for live action. If all things stated were true, all the officers that responded would have fired. smmfh

      • ZeroHostile

        No, sir… The police are absolutely despicable. And in your particular case, under educated and deficient in basic grammar skills, but I suppose low IQ is in fact a sought after quality in your line of “work” , so surely you fit right in with the other needle-dicked, troglodytes that you are standing up for… You are not needed, you are not wanted, and quite frankly, your salary wages would be better spent on a high school custodian, at least they actually work for their money. You extort, steal, imprison, and kill people for a living, you are in fact the epitome of a domestic terrorist, and should be hanged for your actions, not rewarded. You are a coward, who hides behind a badge and a gun, and you are paid by the taxed dollars of those you extort… May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the hair surrounding your tiny, insignificant dick. The uprising has begun, and the private sector is far more efficiently armed than the bitches in blue, I’d wish you luck when things go south, but honestly, I hope you’re one of the first to meet the business end of a .308, you’ve earned it…

      • 1776

        its just sad that we cant even talk about guns or even pretend to have one without being a threat…. cops just roll up and start shooting, it seems like thats the answer for eveything…. sad sad sad… now theres an innocent 12 year old boy dead…. maybe the cops should think about they people they swear to protect before the they think about themselves

      • Donald Johnson

        The last thing i would ever do is call a cop for help. if i were going to do that i would shoot myself. at least i wouldnt get beaten up too. the police never get anywhere there is a serious problem in time to prevent anyone from being hurt. they are so fearful all the time, there is a better chance that the victims will be shot also. the police are simply money generators. their job is to get people into court or jail so their town can make money off the citizens. if there is no chance some revenue will be generated the police are very unlikely to show up, and if they do keeping the peace is the last thing on their agenda. do yourself a favor,.. never call the police and if you do make such a horrible error,. make sure you dont move quickly, they dont have brains, they think with their guns,…

      • mist42nz

        4) Even if the boy’s toy HAD been a real gun — which it wasn’t, but let’s assume for the moment that it was, just for the sake of argument — the 2nd amendment of the constitution gives citizens the right to keep and bear arms. The police do not have the right to just blow away anybody for holding a gun.

        I’ve been private security, including close quarter protection. You don’t get to blow away people for having guns or toys guns, when they are lawful and within their rights. Learn the law, cop – ignorance is no excuse

      • Charles Vella

        You are defending the senseless shooting death of a 12 year old. Not much more can be said to you when your brain works as poorly as it does. Good luck though, Texas. You are at the bottom of the country for a reason.

      • Jim Zubkowski

        they shot a child they are murderers plain and simple if you are confused get help

      • Nick C

        You’re a pos cop too for even trying to defend this scumbag.

      • fckdapolice

        Hey Pig remember that when YOUR kid gets blasted by some high on power fuck nut that shouldn’t be allowed to handle his own nuts little lone a deadly weapon….other words…fuck you and all your pig buddies

      • Independent Thinker

        You are the idiot–no cop, regardless of the situation, should immediately exit his car guns blazing when going into a call like this. Cops are supposed to use restraint when using deadly force, but this officer seemed to be all too ready and willing to pull the trigger without even trying to assess the situation first. Especially considering the fact that they knew going in that the boy’s gun was a toy

      • Cromwell

        Hey texas cop,
        First of all dummy you use caution not precaution. Second dummy, when did using caution translate to begin firing wildly before the car has stopped and then refuse to render any assitance what so ever? Why don’t you try walking a day in the shoes of the parents of Tamir Rice you guttless pig? Some one needs to turn you into ballast.

      • Macorichi

        Your closed minded narrow view of the world is despicable. Victim blame a 12 year old, what a crock of shit. I hope you never have kids, they’ll be some ignorant ass children if you’re raising them

      • Raki

        Fuck your shoes!! You defending cowardly actions so you must be a coward to!! o be a cattle herder or some shit instead of a fake protector!!

      • techmarine83 .

        Bullshit, an officer is NOT trained to literally drive up to within three feet of the suspect who is believed to have a gun…know why? Because the officer will get his head blown off the second he opens the door so right there these officers broke protocol. So after putting themselves in harms way and thus denying the child and themselves time to defuse the situation they instead drive up to him and the officer MURDERS him within 1 1/2-2seconds of opening his door. The officer is responsible for the child’s death by not following SOP’s.

      • Lee Cadena

        Sir see the logic you just used I believe your anger is misdirected you should be yelling at the rookie who didn’t follow the proper rules for engagement pop quiz … who do you represent state law or constitutional law which one is always first …I feel you may have forgotten that and it’s fine just turn in your badge why do it to yourself your obviously not happy man go do something you want take some of your Co workers I promise no one will worry or argue with you in fact I’m willing to pay more in taxes not to have cops like this ever again I want a constable a true to life peace keeper those who understand that you signed up for this shit and if you aren’t the cure your the problem =)

      • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

        hey your lips are blue, maybe lay off so much of the C0P C0CK next time, or at least wipe your mouth when hes finished using you as his load dumpster

      • Disagree with you.

        When there is no immediate threat to a member of the public and no crime is being committed but police have been warned that an armed suspect is on the scene is it usual to pull up so close to what could be an armed assailant? Based on hearsay? An, as to yet, unconfirmed accusation? There is no one around to be threatened and a handgun, in the hands of an untrained professional, is a fairly inaccurate weapon at what.. 25 metres+?

      • malcolmkyle

        According to Paul Craig Roberts, a former editor of the Wall Street Journal and former assistant secretary to the treasury under Ronald Reagan, “Police in the US now rival criminals, and exceed terrorists as the greatest threat to the American public.”

      • Adam Goose W Lee

        You fucks are always there when we don’t need you…but by the fuck not when we do…or you take the wrong sides…plainly this happens more often than not. The police force today is a joke to that of what it used to be…how many black folks have been shot cus someone says he’s got a gun..when really he’s loding a wallet?..police use deadly unnecessary force all the time…don’t get me wrong I have encountered a few select gentlemen of the law that still give you fucks a good name. You are controlled by the government.. so they tell you who the threat is and you shoot….so next time I see a man get pulled oclver for speeding I should maybe yell he’s got a gun and see where it goes? People are allowed to own guns…pellet or not….if this kid raised his shirt to show that he in fact had a gun on him without a reach for the arms extended, would this not simply be a 12 year old that’s simply admitting to have some sort of weapon on him? Cops don’t think anymore…its only a paycheck…maybe a good one too, but when it boils down to it your just being paid to be more crooked than the guy that you locked away for protecting his dog from your forces? Look at the shooting in moncton nb..burke only targetted cops…he hurt not one civilian…because his brother was shot and killed execution style by an rcmp officer…police do NOT equal god. You are here for US. Stop acting like your the good guys and be the fucking good guys….if something doesn’t change you will turn all support against you. People hate cops for a reason, call you pigs, FOR A REASON. When we stop feeling safe around those designed to protect us, things will happen. It only a matter of time before your brutalities hit critical and the people of the land turn against you…so before you start blasting a courtesy site FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND, for letting us know what you crooked fucks are up to, then maybe you should think about saying something to the crooked badges that do this sort of shit to land themselves a week or 2 paid vacation making us, THE PEOPLE, hate all forms of enforcement, before its too late

      • Clive

        “responding to your pleas and cries for help”

        Your Superman Complex should get your barred from even working unarmed security at a mall. You are not God’s gift to humanity. You’re a fucking public servant and one of the single largest threats to your own community. Walk a day in your shoes? It’s nowhere near as difficult as you try to make it. You’re just a pussy.

      • http://archive.org/details/antifederalist_0707_librivox The Federal Farmer
      • humboldtrick

        Oh booo fucking hooo. Did you know what the job entailed before you accepted the position? Then don’t cry to us. (And don’t ask us to walk in your shoes for a day. We KNOW what the job entails. We weren’t stupid enough to take that kind of job, yet you were.)

        Precaution is one thing, but murder is another, Are you cops just too weak and stupid to deal with a child? Oh wait, he was black so, for racist cops, he was already branded a criminal, child or not.

        The problem with this is that minorities tend to get killed by cops on a regular basis, while white perpetrators tend to go to jail. If you can’t see the problem, then YOU are part of it. This is the problem: cops are just too stupid to understand that they are causing the problem. Cops are supposed to serve the public, NOT politicians and corporations.

      • Mr. Wrestling III

        The problem, you rube, is that e officer did NOT use precaution. He jumped out and shot a child. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Beverly Haynes

      they need to take these fake guns of the market and if any parent that would buy or allow there kids to have one is insane. im not saying its right what these cops did but clearly if those adults that called police k new it was fake why didn’t they go talk to the child about it instead they call the police. clearly are police and law enforcement r in fear of there own lives and it only take one second for things to go wrong i fell for both parties i wouldn’t wont to in the police shoes in today society with all the gangs,drugs and violence going on. i also wouldn’t want to be a child either when all they see in sex,and violence all around them, people have lost all morals and have no respect for them selves

      • chris

        They didn’t know they were fake. That’s why they were concerned and phoned the police- read much? “clearly are police” “fear of there” “I fell for” wouldn’t wont to in the police shoes in today” Skip spelling and comprehension? Write an intelligent paragraph if you expect to be taken seriously

  • Casper

    I hope the pussy that called this in understands what he caused by having the police deal with this issue. He warned them that it was fake but still felt threatened even though he wasn’t even in the park. Do not call the cops if you’re not in danger! And even then…they’re pretty much useless

    • Brian Mumford

      First, it was an older woman who called it in. Second, the last thing she said on the 911 phone call is that she did NOT know if the gun was real or not. Go listen for yourself. I’m not saying the officer acted appropriately, I’m just pointing out some of the misinformation out there already. More questions need to be asked. The deputy chief said the boy didn’t threaten anyone with action. If it was non-threatening, was taking the gun out enough justification to use deadly force on a 12 year old? Doesn’t sound like it to me, but more information is needed.

      • Casper

        First, I did listen to the phone call…..In the first few seconds, the dispatcher asks where he’s at, “sir” so if that’s a woman, she sounds like a man that should’ve laid off the cigarettes. Even the dispatcher was confused. What was the purpose of bringing that up if not only to tout your own imagined higher intelligence? The person on the phone said its fake but the kid is scaring everyone. Cops have no obligation to protect you and they are killing people without discrimination. I’ve called them many times after break-ins, assaults and after being robbed only to wait between 4 and 8 hours for a deputy to show up. Therefore, I stand by what I said.

        • Brian Mumford

          You may be right about it being a woman, I can’t tell for sure, but that’s irrelevant. At NO time did he/she say it WAS fake. He said “it’s PROBABLY fake”, “it’s PROBABLY a juvenile”, and “I DON’T know if it’s real or not.” So you’re mistaken that the person on the phone said “its fake”. You also said, “Cops have no obligation to protect you.” Have you ever heard of the term “protect and serve?” They certainly do have an obligation to protect innocent people, and even suspects once their in custody. Some are simply more committed than others. As far as the rest of what I said, don’t make assumptions about what I think, whether you’re talking about my “imagined higher intelligence” or otherwise. I’m still trying to figure out why you said that other than you may feel inadequate because you’re insecure about your comment being challenged. Regarding police, I personally think every able-bodied adult of sound mind should practice concealed carry. Both police and criminals, which are often one of the same, would treat us with more respect if they knew everyone standing around them was armed. Lastly, you called the man a pussy for calling it in. What if this was a person who ended up shooting a bunch of people and he hadn’t called it in?

          • Richard

            I agree with you. I carry a gun on me everyday and I hope I never have to use it but I will protect myself and my family if I have to.

          • Casper

            It’s irrelevant but you brought that up as one of your two points so……Brian….just stop. Look up Warren vs. District of Columbia. I’m not making this up. The job of police is to enforce laws and protect criminals. Their main obligation is to make sure everyone on the payroll makes it home safely after every shift. And again, please listen to the call again. The person that said they were scaring everyone also said the child in question was on a swing and playing. I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. You’re just nitpicking at the message I’m trying to portray

          • Brian Mumford

            Just stop? First, and I’ll try to make my “first” comment accurate this time, ;), I think you’re taking Warren v District of Columbia out of context. This was a case involving “allegedly inadequate police protection.” The court said, “The extent and quality of police protection afforded to the community necessarily depends upon the availability of public resources and upon legislative or administrative determinations concerning allocation of those resources.” It wasn’t saying that police don’t have a duty to protect people, the court was saying they don’t have a duty to a particular person because they can’t protect everyone at once, or in every circumstance. I don’t think you can make an argument that police don’t protect people each day. Even the way they pull up behind you in a highway is designed so that if a car hit their car it would kill them and hopefully not you. I don’t believe all police are bad, I DO however believe that enough of them are that I’d rather not have the police departments we have today. I think all able bodied people of sound mind should stop outsourcing their protections and start protecting themselves. An armed society is a police society, I truly believe that. At the end of the day, police can’t be there to head off bad things from happening. Getting back to the initial comment I made, I still stand by what I said. In this particular incident, there was no way for the police to know whether the gun was real or not despite what Twitter and this article say at first blush. The conduct is suspicious nonetheless, and I hope they get to the bottom of it, but people making false statements about it doesn’t make anything better, it only weakens our complaints because people can point to where we are in error. That’s my opinion anyway. Sorry, but I have to get back to work now. Good talking with you.

          • Casper

            You prove your ignorance with each rebuttal. This is taken directly from court documents…that it is a “fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen.” I’m not even going to read anymore of what you said because you clearly don’t understand how this has been used by police. Educate yourself…you’re obviously trying to prove something by discrediting what I said as I stated before. Little pecker syndrome maybe? Riss v NY, hartzler vs city of San jose, disheney v Winnebago county. Like I said just stop.

          • chris

            You sound ignorant little pecker. I appreciate Brians contribution

          • Casper

            I’m glad you are able to hear text. you seem like a dickrider. Save this thread in case either of you need

            Signed,
            None of your business J.D. MBA

          • Casper

            Also please note that what-ifs do not work in the court of law. I can point you to multiple cases to support that argument but I have work to do :). Nice talking to you mate

          • Trevor Peterson

            They have NO LEGAL obligation to protect and serve Brian..And in your first comment you challenged Casper that it is a woman but after the obvious is pointed out to you, you respond back in a second comment that it’s irrelevant..Hmmm…Go educate yourself..You’re wasting yours and everyone elses time..SMH

          • Brian Mumford

            Hey Trevor, have you ever made a mistake like that (woman vs man’s voice)? My reason for bringing it up was because if I thought he had the gender wrong that was reason to believe he hadn’t listened to the recording. My mistake, but that’s what we call a misunderstanding. In other words, if the voice was that of a woman, and he hadn’t listened to the recording, there would have been merit to my argument. After listening to it a couple of times, I believe I was mistaken, but with good reason. I do not believe, however, that has anything to do with education. If you’d like to compare education, however, I’d be happy to do that. I think people like you should learn how to not react to everything emotionally so that you can better understand the context of the situation. I find it particularly telling that you didn’t weigh in on the whole point of the conversation. The point wasn’t about the legal nature of police protection, which can be debated and overturned like court cases are every day; the point of my response was that the caller NEVER said anything definitive about it being a toy gun or that it was in fact a juvenile. Police have to hope for the best but prepare for the worst. They can’t act on the assumption that a gun is fake and that the person is a juvenile, especially at night. So stick to the point of this whole conversation, otherwise I think it’s fair to say you’re wasting everyone’s time. At least I’m big enough to admit when I’ve made a mistake. That’s more than I can say for 95% of the people who respond like you by hurling personal insults.

          • Trevor Peterson

            Didn’t feel I was that insultive Brian. Trust me, I can get a whole lot more aggressive than that..But I do tend to get a little um emotional about story after story of people getting killed by others..And I will also agree that when I listened to the 911 call, I also found nothing overly decisive to listen to in regards to weather the gun was for sure a toy or not..So if you ALSO stick to the point you’re trying to make in your post and leave out the all shit about the gender of a 911 dispatcher only to point it out as irrelevant in a second post and if your point ALSO was not about the legalities of “serve and protect”, then leave that out too! That would help offer clarity to your point.. Reading back through your script, can you see what I saw now??

          • Brian Mumford

            I explained my valid reason for bringing up the man/woman thing, and I was responding to what casper said regarding police (which was a red herring). So I think I’ve done a pretty good job sticking to the topic, listening to what others have said, and giving them feedback. In other words, I try to hold civil conversations. It’s not always easy, because you’re right, when people get killed, it should jerk an emotion. I just admonish people to mitigate that as much as possible because we do need to work through our problems, and we can’t do that by taking cheap shots at each other; something we’ve all been guilty of from time to time, so I won’t claim to be above that, but I can say with confidence that I try very hard to be reasonable.

          • Trevor Peterson

            Fair enough..I understand and agree with the cheap shot thing..Character defect of mine that I work on…

          • chris

            Well said Brian. What if kids had been shot at this park. The kid was brandishing a realistic looking gun with tip removed, had been shooting cars, was terrorizing people. Did his parents not teach him respect, consequences for his actions. He’s old enough to know right from wrong. He should’ve listened, put his hands up, not reached for the gun. Regardless, no matter how much debate he’s gone. Hopefully parents will teach their children better now. The state now is going to color a or have fluorescent strips on all toy guns

          • Brian Mumford

            Thank you, and you too Chris. This was a tragic accident that could have been avoided by the people in that boy’s life, or the people who weren’t that should have been.

  • SonnyC

    ALL COPS are low-life POS

    • POS Fan

      Spoken like a true criminal

      • SonnyC

        Nope. Wrong. I’ve never been convicted of anything in my life. I know how to behave myself.

      • Jon-Maxx Potts

        haha. don’t be mad because he stole your thunder….

  • SonnyC

    Life in prison without the possibility of parole.

    • chris

      Parents need to take some responsibility

  • Michael Fuson

    the cop should be charged with murder. since when having a toy gun gives a cop the right to kill

    • Donald Minchew

      Since when does having a real gun give the police the right to shoot you? If you are no threat to anybody the law says it is alright for you to have a gun.

      • http://FreedomFray.com/ FreedomFray

        Well, kind of. A “law” doesn’t say it’s alright for you to have a gun. That is an inalienable right granted to you by your creator and/or mere existence. The Constitution guarantees you that there can be no laws that take that right from you. Thus ALL laws which infringe upon this right are effectively – null & void.

        • Donald Minchew

          I am a little confused on the first sentence but the second is 100% correct and if you are not threatening someone then they have no right to kill you for having a gun. Toy or real gun

      • chris

        You do know it’s illegal for someone under the age of 18 to have a gun right? A kid shooting cars, waving a gun around and scaring kids in a park could be considered a threat. Wow. Want me to spell it out for you?

        • Donald Minchew

          You do know it was a bb gun and they are not illegal for kids to have. Where did it say he was waving it around and shooting cars???? I read that a concerned man called 911 and reported that he was scared and it was a toy. No you do not have to have a license in most states to have a gun. You do have to have a concealed carry license in all but two states to carry concealed but that is not the case here now is it. Now I have spelled it out for you so keep your smart ass comments to your self before you do research.

  • SonnyC

    Terrorist thugs

  • behemoth

    Cops are the worst people in our country, I live in Italy! I’m so sad for that guy and his family.

  • Sabrina

    Why were the cops called in the first place on a 12 yr old child?

    • chris

      Did you miss the entire conversation? He had a damn gun they thought was real and they were afraid kids were going to get shot in the playground. Miss much?

  • pd383

    If you listen to the entire call the guy says “I don’t know if it’s real or not but he’s scaring the shit out of everybody”. Earlier in the call he said “it’s probably a fake” but went on to talk about how everyone was afraid of it. Obviously it was a scary situation for everyone. Airsoft guns are identical to real weapons. Does everyone expect our police officers are to just stand there and start taking rounds before defending themselves and the public?

  • Mike Boodoo

    Can someone explain why this motherfucker called 911 IF THEY KNEW THE GUN WAS FAKE??

    • ChristCrusader

      Don’t call the enforcers authorized with lethal force to just exert a little parenting admonition.
      It ain’t Adam-12 you’re calling anymore.

    • chris

      Read before posting or read the posts. They didn’t know it was fake!!!!!!!!!! He thought it MIGHT be fake but wasn’t sure. He was calling because it MIGHT be real

      • Mike Boodoo

        How about you relax and don’t piss yourself on the internet?

  • bjgollatz

    Why has the fact that the officer ordered the suspect to put his hands up – was left out of this article?

    • 911isajokeinyourtown

      it’s in numerous other articles. no secret info there. that cant be your excuse

    • http://FreedomFray.com/ FreedomFray

      We don’t, at this point, even know if the kid was aware of their presence, let alone, obligated to obey commands yelled from someone not yet identified. By the way, are you submissive to all commands barked at you?

      • chris

        Really? Don’t listen and get shot? It’s that simple. He was aware goofy- he responded to them by lifting his shirt and reaching for his gun. Identified? A 3 yr old knows police by site. Read much?

  • thoughtpolice

    proof that these terrorists aren’t tactically trained to handle each situation. Simply Robots wound up to protect the establishment’s assets.

  • Mr. George

    shooting a 12 year old, they were 2 cops with guns, yet the cowards were afraid of a 12 year old or so they say, or is it that they didn’t have their kill quota for the week?

  • Sandra

    The manufacturer of the TOY GUN is culpable, too, in my opinion. In this day and age it should be readily distinguishable what is a TOY and what is not. The cop and the boy’s family should sue the hell out of them! And before the haters respond about our free capitalist society, then just remember that includes their having to reap the consequences, as well.

    • Richard

      I think the child or someone actually removed the orange part of the gun that shows it is fake to make it look real.

      • sandra

        Thanks for that. Apparently it’s too easy to make it look real so they need to go back to the drawing board on that one. :)

        • Trevor Peterson

          yup! Richard the loser troll..

        • chris

          These kids will spray paint , modify, cut, do what ever they have to do to make these toys look real because they want to look thug like, gangsta like. It’s all fun and games till the tables are turned around and they need mommy

      • Ronnie

        Your a piece of shit trolling every comment to make a case for officer to kill a 12 year old child there’s no excuse for it even if the child found a real gun you have to be able to settle the situation accordingly talk the kid down give him more than 2 fucking seconds to comprehend he’s doing something he shouldn’t be use the taser shoot him in his arm but to shoot twice once in the stomach is ridiculous do we now live in a society where we judge and condemn kids the same way as adults come on now you are either very stupid or just evil

        • chris

          If they have a gun yes. that’s why young murderers get tried as adults

    • chris

      The boy removed the cap that identified it as a toy so no one is sueing anyone. Why is it everyone wants to blame someone else for their mistakes. These parents did a piss poor job raising this child

      • Happy Tinfoil Cat

        It’s irrelevant since the toy was in his waistband and he never got the chance to show the end was or was not orange. Additionally, he never got the chance to “drop the gun” as supposedly instructed. He would have been shot since that would have made him go for his waistband anyway. No. He was shot multiple times before the cop car slid to a stop.

  • ChristCrusader

    The child was pointing the real-looking gun at people.
    911 call made.
    Police say put your hands up.
    Kid draws the real-looking gun from his waist band.
    It was an unwise decision to be brandishing a realistic looking gun at people, or for the parent to let the child do so out in public.
    It was a REALLY bad decision to draw a realistic gun from his waist band when confronted by police.
    “This is what happens when you call the cops.”
    Like the rule, “Don’t point a gun at anything your not ready to shoot and destroy”, “Don’t call the cops that you aren’t ready to have shot and killed, beaten, and/or arrested.”
    Maybe the 911 caller should have minded his own business.
    The 911 caller introduced an irresponsible innocent to lethal force.
    I don’t blame the cops for shooting in the circumstances, but I blame them for placing themselves in a dangerous comply-or-die circumstance where they had to shoot to defend themselves. They should have arranged the investigation in such a way as to maintain cover, and de-escalate the circumstances to a safe point for everyone.

    • Richard

      I’m actually wondering why the child didn’t respond and if he is mentally handicapped. Because honestly even when I was a stupid 12 year old I knew better than to pull a fake gun that looks real on police officers.

      • chris

        No, they would’ve made a big deal out of that if it were so. Just a little thug trying to put on a show

    • Trevor Peterson

      Oh what fucking ever!!!! They’ll shoot you if your in a garden wjth a fucking carrot in your hand!
      Claim they saw you pointing a high powered rifle!

      • ChristCrusader

        Wouldn’t be relevant to this event.

    • chris

      On the other hand what if the gun had been real and other innocent children had gotten shot by this little thug?

      • ChristCrusader

        The 911 caller said it might have been fake but it was really scary.
        Hoplophobia to begin with to start the ball rolling.
        If the kid wasn’t SHOOTING the gun, there’s the first evidence to build one’s evaluation of what’s going on, and what tool is needed to address the situation.
        Maybe the person who called 911 should have gone over and checked it out themselves, rather then call the enforcers.

        • chris

          It’s not up to the citizens to address the situation retard. The kid not shooting at the moment is not a tool needed for anything. You really aren’t very bright are you. A gun not being fired one second can be fired the next

  • Akash

    Can’t help but put some of the blame on the person who called 911. If the boy was not being confrontational and you knew the gun was fake, why would you call the cops? Doesn’t make any sense.

  • upagainstthewall

    Justice is needed here. Tell you what,let’s all suggest that the shooter who shot this child go kill himself … at least he wouldn’t have to opportunity to murder again .

  • John Dillinger

    People are getting really tired of their youth getting murdered by damn pigs… when there’s mass civil unrest the cops are the first to get handled by the angry public. If you’re a cop you should quit your job.

  • http://affinityimage.com Chas

    First of all address the fear, how come the child at play would
    be scary, an adult would think that playing is scary?

    Why was the officer there? Why was he armed with only lethal
    force? Does Cleveland
    believe every officer should carry only a canon? Does Cleveland train their officers in crisis interventions?

    The only reason another child has died has been fear of a
    WAR called the Drug War.

    • chris

      Wow- maybe he was there because he was called- called because the little thug was terrorizing people-pointing the gun in peoples faces. That’s play to you? Then by all means, invite him to your house to play with your kids

  • PigStateNews

    At least 991 people have been killed by U.S. police since January 1, 2014.
    At least 1745 have been killed since May 1, 2013.
    https://www.facebook.com/KilledByPolice

  • Raelyn Mayfield

    Vets coming home and getting jobs as cops. Welcome to America!

  • SonnyC

    All the COP lovers commenting on here should try facing reality and exercising some common sense.

    • chris

      Preach to the parents of this child

  • J C

    Note that no one (including Filming Cops) is claiming that the information was passed along to the officer. I’m not saying that the officer is innocent, but I’m saying that 911/dispatch is guilty as hell.

    • chris

      Not as guilty as the parents or the child

  • Guest

    I wonder if the Cleveland police have been using these targets? Disgusting.

  • Guest

    I wonder if the Cleveland police have been using these targets lately….Disgusting.

  • ZOLAR VISION

    It may be a sad thing that the boy was shot, think about the cop
    though. He kissed his family , then went to work. While at work he has
    to confront a person who may be armed. the cop says raise you hands in
    the air, the person then exposes a firearm. The cop the reacts in the
    best way he knows how in order to see his family again. The cop draws
    first and disables the person with the gun. {job well done} The cop
    could have unloaded his firearm but did not, the child with the BB gun
    is alive and has taught many others a very real lesson. If the young man
    with the BB gun had followed direction, he would not have the same
    result. IMHO

    • SonnyC

      A 12 year old boy? Cops are afraid of a 12 year old? The boy reached for the BB gun, but did not aim it at the officer. The officer could have taken cover until the situation was correctly identified and evaluated. Cops act first and ask questions later. Impulse reactions and the lack of professionalism, is reported way too often. These kinds of things are reported almost daily. Way too often to be accidents or “cops just doing their job”. A badge, a gun, and a mentally disturbed individual with permission to use deadly force, makes for a bad situation on our streets.

      • chris

        And the other people in the park? He was to take them under cover with him? If someone has a gun pointed at me I don’t care if they’re 5 or 90. That comment was mute

  • SonnyC

    What happened to the “land of the free”, “the country of justice”, and the “to protect and to serve”? Cops killing children and the elderly, the number of innocent people we place in our prisons and jails, the corruption in the legal ( judicial ) system, unpunished while collar crime, racial profiling, judicial favoritism extended to the wealthy and the famous celebs, and corrupt members of law enforcement avoiding punishment? What about cops giving out quota tickets, police brutality, and no-knock warrants? Those of you who are cop lovers need to wake up and smell the coffee.

    • chris

      You don’t need to be a cop lover to want to protect our children. You do that by educating them and teaching them not to run around in public with realistic looking guns pointing them at people, terrorizing, shooting cars, being disrespectful, consequences for their actions. And teach them to stay away from other kids hat do

  • GRWIII

    In 2012 Cleveland Police were involved in a chase where 2 unarmed people were killed it was reported that 150 shots were fired but, no gun was found the excuse that these cops used was that they thought they were being shot at (directly in front of the justice center) yea right! In actuality the mans car backfired and the chase was on! These people were running for their lives because they knew the police were going to kill them! Reportedly each person was shot 40 times a piece! The police cars in my city no longer carry the motto to protect and, serve and the cars are completely black so they can’t be seen at night!! GESTAPO IS COMING TO A CITY NEAR YOU!!!

    • chris

      Damn. Would not want to live in Cleveland

  • AdamSee

    And people wonder why cops are being killed more and more…..

  • Hihou Lihvs

    un fucking real. i could not be more fed up with this fucking shit. what the fuck is wrong with you people to let this happen. wake the fuck up my god. I am tired of innocent people dying every day because you lazy idiotic pieces of shit refuse to care about your own lives and how youre being made a worthless bitch by your criminal government. you think its okay that evil runs this world? well than fuck you. don’t act suprised when they send soldiers to blow your ignorant head off, you fucking asked for it by taking part in all this evil. fuck you all im done. You have no respect for the constitution good men have gave their lives for YOU to be able to live free, and you just fucking throw it away. You’re all selfish, should be ashamed of yourselves, you don’t deserve to call yourself part of the USA

    • http://FreedomFray.com/ FreedomFray

      Since it’s pretty much the libtards that have destroyed good cussing anyways… by making it the norm, as opposed to the rare… Hell, I’m all-in too…

      Yea, What He Said… Fucking Pussies

  • AdamSee

    STOP CALLING THE FUCKING POLICE ASS HOLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    • disqus_ttsVa86t7v

      HOW ABOUT FILTHY PIG ASS HOLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS??

      • chris

        You aren’t too bright are you? He wasn’t saying not to call them bad names. He was saying don’t call the cops. wow

        • disqus_ttsVa86t7v

          I know what he meant, sunshine. I just made a euphemism, get it. Obviously not.

  • Lupe

    BULLSHIT! Its stories like this that piss me off! Media is misleading and full of half truths. The 911 caller did NOT say that the gum was fake. His exact words were “It’s probably fake but I don’t know” & then later said “I don’t know if it’s real or not but he keeps taking it in and out of his waist and pointing it at people”

    How about the parents take some responsibility here. If they had taught their son to NOT point guns at people (real or fake) He wouldn’t have been in that situation! Grrr I’m soooo angry about this. This boys own parents and their lack of guidance contributed to this young man’s life ending too soon & all the media can do is blame the police. BULLSHIT!!!!

  • Rob

    Its the parents fault to begin with! Should someone else have to pay with their life so this kid can be a worthless thug while his mom doesnt give a shit! Raise your fucking kids right, put them ahead of wut u’s durn or hows you gone git yo hur did and sum trees! And a ryde 2 da club! Take rsponsibility for your kid and his actions! I cant stand the idea of police but this is diffrent……

    • http://FreedomFray.com/ FreedomFray

      Do you know these people?

  • Jenni Lovsey

    Fire pig, charge his ass with murder, and when his found guilty, carry out a death sentence.

    • chris

      His parents need to be fired- ever stop to think where the kid learned to think it was ok to act like a thug , carry around an unidentifiable toy, terrorize people by pointing a gun in their face, shoot cars, ignore authority, reach for guns intending to pull them on cops?

  • mikCND

    What the caller actually said was the gun was “probably” fake. That is not like the click-bait headline “clearly warned the gun was a fake”. This writer, reposting a story, is dishonest and misleading.

    • http://FreedomFray.com/ FreedomFray

      Doesn’t matter. Even if it was a known fact that the gun was real, fully loaded and cocked, ready for fire. That does not give authority nor justification to gun down an individual, child or not, that is not an imminent threat to life, limb or property.

      • chris

        I agree, when you tell someone to put their hands up and they reach for their gun instead I don’t see any threat. Really, your comment is ignorant. A real, fully loaded cocked gun being reached for is not a threat. You’d be creaming your jeans

  • Tempest Rockdoll

    Time to take the guns away from the cops – let them learn to do their jobs with their minds rather than bullets and the world would truly be a safer place

    • chris

      Yes- let the criminals run wild oh bright one

      • Tempest Rockdoll

        cops in the UK only fired their weapons 3 times last year – in the US we have over 300 dead due to police shootings – from my point of view the COPS are the Criminals

  • James Tucker

    The second amendment gives the right for citizens to carry….did I just read that they were saying that If THE Gun WAS real IT Would Be ok?! Cop did his job.

  • Turd Ferguson

    So, the person who called 911 already knew the gun was fake? Why make a call to 911 in the 1st place then? Should I give a dispatcher a heads up the next time I’m watching a Rambo movie or something?

    • chris

      the didnt know already. anybody read around here

  • http://rumjukies.blogspot.com/ Birdman

    wow………. 12 year old!……………Black kids are been gun down like it’s a sport. Condolences to his family RIP.

    • chris

      His family is the reason he is dead. Teach your kids respect. Spend time with them. nothing to do with his color

  • woodwoman

    If you’re such a freakin’ coward that you think anyone near a gun, real or fake, is going to kill you then you should quit being a cop!

    • chris

      He was in a playground full of other kids they were protecting also and they had those parents to answer to. Someone reaches for a gun when you tell them to put their hands up wth do you think they have in mind?

  • General Tso

    Leave with full pay.
    If I shot someone – doesn’t matter who it was – I’d be in jail for 25 to life pending hard proof that my life was in danger

    • Edward The Great

      Fuck the police…

      …Right in the pussy!

  • JPZodeaux

    The 2nd Amendment does not “give” rights. The express language of that amendment make it clear it is a prohibition on the federal government from infringing upon the right of the people to keep and bear arms. This is an important distinction. Because the language of the Bill of Rights acts as prohibitions on the federal government, we should consider that this incident happened in Cleveland, Ohio, and the child was shot by municipal police, not the federal government. The State of Ohio, however, is traditionally an open carry state, and the constitution for the State of Ohio comes with its own Bill of Rights, and Section 4 of Article I acknowledges the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It is a stronger argument to point out that the Ohio constitution makes clear the right to keep and bear arms and their open carry laws.

  • Kysondra

    My question is, why did the person call 911 in the first place if they knew it was a fake gun?

    • chris

      They didn’t read! read! read!

  • enkisea enkidu

    “he went fer his gun”

  • Bill Richardson

    The caller clearly told the dispatcher at the end of the call… “I don’t know if it’s real or not”. That’s a bit different that what you said to make your point. Here’s what you reported “Caller Clearly Warned That the Boy’s Toy Gun Was “Fake”” If you had a son whose job it was to keep people safe, I’m sure you would tell him to decide that what looks like a gun is most likely fake… Yeah, probably wouldn’t be a good idea to mention that to his wife and kids while they’re still grieving. And btw, we have 12 year old “kids” out there killing people.

  • Yall is dumb

    at 12 you should know when a cop says show me your hands, you dont go looking for your bbgun

  • Mario Kenny

    wow

  • Wayne Corke

    Avoid calling 911. Do not let your children go to a public park. Do not
    associate in any manner with a police person, they are armed and very
    dangerous. Do not buy toy guns. If a police person hurts you or your
    family, get the best team of lawyers money can hire, make sure the
    settlement, if any, hurts the taxpaying public. Make certain that the
    lawyers litigate the police person personally, if possible, place legal
    court liens on every asset the police person has, including his wages
    for the rest of his life, if possible.

  • Dar Brooks Helwig

    Children under the age of consent DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Aside from that, why were the cops called if the guy knew it was a toy gun. And even if it was a toy gun, why does the warrent death. How about walking up to the kids and taking the gun? Hmmmm?

    • chris

      That’s a headache and makes no sense at all

  • Dar Brooks Helwig

    Treason and tyranny are afoot, The terror threat is in the White House. BE THE RESISTENCE! PROCLAIM LIBERTY!

  • Henry Munchies

    Whatever happened to warning shots, tasers, beanbag shotgun shell, or verbal instructions to get down on the ground. Their actions make the public think that lethal force is the only thing they are teaching at the police academy.

    • Edward The Great

      In Soviet States of Amerika, there are no warning shots.

    • You’re Reaching…

      The officer told the kid to raise his hands. Instead of doing that, the kid reached for his waistband where the officer had seen him put the gun. The officer did nothing wrong.

      • Henry Munchies

        So the officer is an automaton, and uses the same techniques wether it’s an adult, or a 12 year old child.

    • chris

      You don’t fire a warning shot, or beanbag when someone is reaching for their weapon. That’s how you end up dead. Kid wanted to play thug. This is what happens to thugs. They gave verbal instructions. He reached inside his shirt instead

  • Edward The Great

    You cop supporters sound like the dumbest, brainwashed motherfuckers in the world. My, God. So much stupid. Or maybe it’s just denial. And no, I have NEVER been in trouble with the law! NEVER! But I have eyes, and I can think for my damn self, and I don’t like what I’ve seen.

  • Allen

    I saw this on a FB page, shared it in disgust, taking the title for truth, THEN listened to the 911 call and felt stupid for sharing it… The guy is saying it MAY be fake, he MAY be a juvenile, and at the end says clearly “I don’t know if it’s real or not!” but throughout keeps telling the dispatcher he’s pointing it at random people and “scaring the shit outa people”. In today’s society, parents need to supervise kids and TEACH them, DON’T DO THAT SHIT!! Obviously the kids goal was to look like a thug and scare people, and when you scare people, someone is going to react defensively!!

  • Arcanum-Existence

    No confrontation, no verbal assault, no physical assault, dispatchers even said the piece was a toy, smh but a little boy still had to lose his life? Why don’t we just line up all the kids in the neighborhood from whites to blacks to hispanics to orientals, etc. and shoot them down since the cops are trigger happy like they’re on crack?

    • chris

      Line up all the kids-That’s an ignorant remark. The dispatch said it was possibly a toy but that was not conveyed to the officers. Matter of fact the officers were told it was a “man with a gun”

  • mackattackmack

    If your a cop and want a paid vacation just shoot a black person ….

  • Sonia

    He was doing what kids his age do. Anyone knows a 12 yr old does silly foolish things for attention. The kid was at a rec center surely folks knew who he was and knew it was a toy. The real question is why toy markers are allowed to make these type of toys to look soo real.

    • chris

      The kid or someone removed the orange tip these toy guns come with. It is illegal to remove them. The manufacturers don’t make them like this- they have safe guards but if someone choose to remove them? He was old enough to know better, know right from wrong, to listen, consequences for his action. What was he doing shooting cars and scaring people? Being foolish is no excuse

  • Dion Scott

    cop should be sodimized then decapitated!! FUCK the PIGS!!

  • cordopolitin

    Thank the Supreme court for ruling that it is ok to discriminate against intelligence when hiring.

    Police will not hire you with an IQ of 104+ and the Supreme Court was pushed by the Obama administration to rule that such discrimination against the intelligence of a person is legal.

    When are we going to say we have had enough of these illegitimate rulings and say we have had enough?

  • destinybee

    what is wrong with you people. 12 year old kid just lost his life over some bullshit gun.and some of you guys are trying to justify what the cops did,this is the problem with our society.what is up with this mentality that cops have these days,shoot first ask questions later.how many more people need to lose their lives over some stupidity.we should all be outraged,because this goes beyond race,because this could have easily been your son your brother your cousin your friend and your neighbour damn.do you guys know how many times my brother has taken a fake gun to the park it saddens me to think this could have been him.and fuck this suspended with pay shit

    • chris

      Does your brothers gun look realistic and have a missing cap which is legally supposed to be on it? Does he terrorize and scare the other kids with it and shoot cars? These soft air /pellet guns can injure and if shot just right can kill someone. I work in an ER and have seen it. It’s very rare but does happen. I have also seen a person lose an eye and treated infections from these guns.No, this couldn’t have been my son. My son was raised with rules, respect and consequences for his actions. You ask how many more have to lose their lives over stupidity? TY for saying it goes beyond race. It could’ve been anyone, any color.

  • Jason McCloud

    Bet they wouldn’t have shot if he was white.

    • chris

      Ignorant! Totally ignorant

  • http://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com jMichaelEdwards

    Who the hell calls the cops on that kid?!?!?! I mean the guy knew it was a toy gun and he called the cops? Why are so many people still this damn stupid?

    Stop calling the cops!

    • jMichaelEdwards is wrong.

      The caller said he didn’t know if it was real or not. He said that the kid was waving it around in such a way that it was scaring people.

  • ilidzinjo

    usa is in the end of the world for human rights.

  • Enrique Roman

    Poorly trained officer, makes the other good cops look bad, the idiot opted for the most simple: shoot and kill.

  • Kenny

    Why the hell was a 12 year old kid carrying a BB gun in a park…and were was his parents…looks like we found the real reason for this, kid had shitty, dumbass parents!! Feel bad for the cop, now it’s his fault some kids parents didn’t want to raise him!!!

  • Trey Wilson

    America is finished. What a shit hole of a place. Glad I don’t live there.

  • bob

    the boy was of color. :/ that’s why they shot.

    • chris

      Yep. Nothing to do with the gun

  • john

    You point a gun at a cop you get shot. End of story. Stop being retards.

  • Bre

    The caller said that he didn’t know if it was fake or not! So he didn’t clearly say it was a toy gun. Second.. If it was you or your loved one in the sistuation of having to come home safe at night I would have taken the same caution. People focus so much on “victim” but never recognize the officers that risk their lives everyday to keep us safe. I’m not saying the kid should have died but we sadly live in a world where it happens. Officers need to be safe take caution and come home at night and sometimes it has to be at a great expense.

    • chris

      Not to mention they had to think about the other people/kids in that park. That gun looked legitimately real

  • Maxwell Rodriquez

    dang…i dont think the public opinion is blindly following the cops anymore. Finally we can hold these people in uniform accountable. Oh mister texas cop….i did walk in your shoes. Several years active duty infantry. Responding to a foreign peoples cries for help. It wasn’t till my ets date that i started to see how i was so angry, and prejudiced against a people who had every right to be pissed off at us. We had very little regulation those early years in Iraq and becuz of this we forever left a great divide between us and the middle east. Since soldiers went on a killing spree in iraq and afghanistan the r.o.e. began to change, get stricter and ultimately preserve countless human lives. My question is this….if we could impose such a strict ROE in a foreign country where 80-90% of the population want to kill you….why cant we do something similar here in america ? For our own people!!!! Or are our hearts so callused that we become indifferent to the senseless slayings of our youth?

  • Didja even read the article?

    The article is misleading. The 911 caller said it was “probably fake”. he never said that he was 100% sure it was a fake gun. Think about it people. If the 911 caller KNEW it was a fake gun, why would he even call 911?

  • Ikon

    The cops killed my friend in Pomona,CA. His murder led to a Federal Investigation of the whole department. Check out the story here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpJkDFJE3fM

  • shane

    wait…is the child dead? the site says dead but interview says in critical condition?

  • tennman

    Texas cop your a bitch ass pig with no remorse who probably got bullied in school fuck you and that officer

  • StephB

    I love how the caller also labels the 12 year old boy as “the guy” several times…he was a child but easily labeled in a way that made him a threat.

  • dicklarge

    Lmaoooooo bb guns are not toys but they are not fire arms…. they can and have killed so before we make and judgment let’s wait and see what really happened here

  • Joey

    You all are morons!

  • Tom Zychowski

    He pulled a gun on cops.

  • Tiffany

    Why the fuck did someone call the cops on kids playing at a playground???

    • chris

      Kid was playing with a gun, had shot cars earlier, was waving it scaring kids. If someone is “playing” with your kids like that do you want people to ignore it? If you thought it was a real gun and your daughter is there screaming? Yeah I thought so clueless Tiffany

      • Tiffany

        I played with a cap gun when I was a child, guess I’m lucky I didn’t get murdered by the police!

  • Untitled Lion

    The police in the U.S. have become militarized and are blatantly out of control, just like our government. This rookie officer, by his own choice, took the life of a 12 year old with the use of deadly force instead of initiating a more non lethal approach. I personally don’t trust the police anymore, as they seem to only want to kill first and ask questions later. With laws like the so called “Patriot Act” the police have become judge, jury and executioner, all rolled up in one neat little governmental package. The police are not your friend and don’t be fooled into thinking they are. I wouldn’t want to walk in the “Texas Cop” shoes, they seem to be full of s**t. My heart goes out to the family of this boy and with sincere hope that justice prevails. Unfortunately, deadly force used by law enforcement by “The State” + investigation of law enforcement by “The State” + a State run court system = no justice for “The People” .

  • usc1801

    If the woman knew the gun was fake, why didn’t she go down there and just take it away? If everyone knew it was a fake gun, is there no one around that could’ve gone down there, taken the gun away, and told the boy he shouldn’t be pointing even a fake gun at someone and they’ll give the gun to his parents? If everyone knew the gun was fake, why is it even necessary to call the police in the first place?

    • chris

      Read!!!!Read!!! They didn’t know it was fake! That’s why they called! You want to go take a gun away from some kid if you don’t know it’s real and they’re pointing it at people? Give it to his parents since they obviously seem so involved in his life?

  • SinDelle Morte

    Wake up. The boy was not being threatening, was not pointing it at the cops, they didn’t even attempt to find out anything. They just shot this kid. Since when is it OK to shoot someone for simply HAVING a gun, whether it’s real or not?

    • chris

      Simply having a gun? Guess you missed the part about him terrorizing people and pointing it at their faces, shooting at cars, ignoring the cops, reaching into his pants for his gun. Not threatening at all poor little thug. They probably saved from a life in prison

  • Jared Mark

    Notice how the police PR guy keeps referring to the BOY as a “young man”?

  • Isaiah Sellassie

    can you publish with dates, please? thank you

  • lberns

    I fucking hate cops

  • Kpennett

    All This Bullshit About, Taking Guns From Citizens; What We Really Need to Be doing, Is Taking them From the Fucking Police!

  • I’m_Just_Saying

    ^Agree.
    And to repeatedly say he is “just a child” doesn’t mean the police were presented to a kid as small as a seven yr old. Not saying this person was, but my little brother at 12 years old, and TONS of other 12 year old boys, are just as big as grown adults now days! And what is a 12 yr old boy doing at the park with a toy that looks like a real gun?!? I say his parents should be in more trouble than that officer! I don’t care if some random caller claimed to the dispatcher that the gun he was pointing “at everyone” was just a toy, the fact that they called the police instead of handling it themselves means they found the situation to be a serious problem. Everything happens for a reason ~ the reason this kid got shot by an officer called to the scene is because he was behaving like a badass thug and pointing a gun at everyone. It’s a shame he died, but this should pose as an example of how people should not be acting rather than trying to be showcased as yet another trigger-happy officer. They are authority and our country would be quite chaotic without them or with people feeling like there is no reason to respect them.

  • Dakota

    children are not harmless y’all are fucking retarded. Its the same here as anywhere else if I was a cop I would not just offhandedly believe, “O someone said it’s fake (someone I have no idea about and don’t know if they even know guns) so obviously the only explanation is it’s fake” I’d go in there assuming that the gun is real but hoping it is not. Similar to kids in Afghanistan they can appear like harmless little children but then can turn around and try to kill you. This isn’t just because it’s another country this is because people are crazy sometimes no matter how old and you never really know who is a threat.

    • chris

      Exactly. This is why gangs recruit so young

  • Marc T Tha God

    this is fake, the kid at 1:37 goes from crying on the ground, immediately jumps up and in the next frame he is smiling…

  • Mike

    How can you say something clearly false in the headline?? The caller said he didn’t know the guy and suggested that it was PROBABLY fake. That is not a warning that the gun IS FAKE. No wonder it was discounted, that warning meant nothing. Yet you make it the basis of your article. If this is the type of credibility you present to people, you don’t deserve any trust at all as a source of information. I can’t believe that real news sources are being replaced by drek like this.

  • Mikey01h

    Ask yourself…. if Joe citizen had shot the kid under the same circumstances, and claimed self defense would he be given the same considerations? Or is there a double standard for government and citizen…

  • Brian Baywatch Hatzelhoffer

    Uh. Did you listen to the recording before posting this article. The caller said clear, “I don’t know if it’s real or fake.” The gun was not colored with an orange tip like airsoft guns should be. He was pointed it at people. If I was a cop I would have done the same thing. His parents are the ones to blame for buying him it and not educating him properly. I have a ten year old little brother who has both a REAL and fake gun. And he knows how to properly use them safely. He also knows never to point ANY gun at anyone. Real, fake, loaded, or unloaded. The universal lesson for gun safety is that you consider ALL guns, even paint ball guns, as deadly and loaded. Even if you KNOW they aren’t. You treat them as if they are.

    • Jason Pope

      I’m sorry is common sense a lost cause in this country? The kid was a CHILD playing with a toy BB gun. If a cop cannot tell whats a threat and whats not a threat they don’t belong on the job period.
      A 12 year old is a child, we played with BB guns in public in the 70s and 80s and not one of my childhood friends ended up in a coffin over it. The call flat said it was a child.. so therefore the Police should have responded with their less than lethal options. The child never reached for the weapon, never pointed it at the officers and never even used any vocalizations of the sort.. he was playing the park and was shot in cold blood by a rookie cop.

      • chris

        This is not the same situation as ours. Did you see a pic of the gun. It’s real as hell looking. The kid was playing in a park full of kids, had been shooting cars, pointing it at people. The call told the officers it was a man with a gun. The kid did reach for the gun

    • chris

      Finally someone with common sense. Well said Brian

  • N

    1. Warns that the gun is “probably” fake.
    2. Officers cannot take any chances whatsoever because young kids in America could easily access real guns if they really wanted to.
    3. The officer told him to put his hands in the air. He reached for his waist. That is one action sure to get you killed by an officer.

  • John Barry

    I’ve read through the comments below, thoroughly.

    This is merely my perspective as a soldier that served 8 years in the Army. It doesn’t necessarily denote what’s taking place… but moreso my perspective on things.

    Cops believe they are invincible. This fear thing they keep talking about is a load of bullshit in my opinion. While there’s a need to be cautious as a police officer… FEAR, like that of which soldiers, marines and others are put up against is the real deal. It’s not some guy speeding or reaching into a bag. It’s being shot at by an enemy. It’s an IED explosion, killing your friends and wounding you. And still, despite the fear… soldiers, marines and the like… still complete their jobs and overcome their fears.

    Typical Americans have no comprehension of this. They can’t comprehend what WAR is like, because there’s very little that is shown about war. So some American’s truly believe that cops, fear for their lives. But I know it’s bullshit. It’s a pathetic excuse for a cop to pull out his weapon and shoot at someone who a majority of the time, wasn’t ready for things to escalate that quickly. Often, it’s shoot to kill. And when horrible “accidents” occur… they use “fear” as their pathetic excuse.

    My anger isn’t from the “fear” that cops have. I mean, personally… if you have this fear all the time, why not quit your job? Do you think you’re actually doing any good to a community being afraid all the time? Firefighters still run through a burning building, with their mind still set on the objective. They don’t panic. They know what they are supposed to do and they do it.

    Cops also have no accountability. No conscious. They shoot and murder someone un-necessarily and they go on paid leave. They answer no questions. In most cases, it never goes to court. Where did personal responsibility go? Where did guilt of committing an atrocity go? No morality of any kind… just to preserve ones innocence. Sadly, courts and police departments make accountability almost impossible; as they will do whatever is necessary to take care of this fear-ridden officer of the law; whom has broken laws himself.

    Think I’m bashing cops? Great. That’s your opinion… and this is mine. From the perspective of a soldier, cops are thugs. They push and poke and prod their way through someones Constitutional Rights to make their job easier. They will lie and bend truth to keep them out of trouble. They will shoot someone, just to keep the masses from doing exactly what they need to be doing. Denying this oppressive behavior. An aggressive, intimidating tactic to scare citizens into compliance and following “law and order” their way. They will spy on you, lie to you and do whatever is necessary to make their job easier. They will shoot and kill you.

    You can listen to these other morons, claiming defense for cops that are OBVIOUSLY out of control. You can form your own unresearched opinions if you think that’s what’s best for you… but the facts are out there. Easily, with some research… you can find hundreds of cases this year alone, where cops are literally getting away with murder. Where cops are held at a higher regard than citizens, with little care of the truth or citizen lives.

    We have the ability to change this. To make it more difficult to take citizen lives, that wouldn’t need to be taken any other time. There are ways to fight back without resulting in violence; though be prepared to use retaliation if it doesn’t improve. Personally… from my military perspective… It won’t get better. We will remain divided.

    As I have always said… This is not about black, white or any other color… This is about police, needlessly killing Americans. We are ALL Americans, despite our differences. And it needs to stop NOW.

  • Will Maitner

    I love how simplistic people are.. Put yourself in the shoes of the officer. You were not informed that the gun was fake. The dispatcher was told, but that information was not forwarded to you. You tell a kid with a gun to put his hands up, but the kid reaches towards the gun. Sorry, but the kid was an idiot for not following directions and putting his hands up. All the kid had to do was follow direction. Was he told to toss the gun? No. He was told to put his hands UP. He didn’t and got shot. If I were the cop I’d do the same thing with the information at hand.

  • I’m_Just_Saying

    To repeatedly say he is “just a child” doesn’t mean the police were presented to a kid as small as a seven yr old. Not saying this person was, but my little brother at 12 years old, and TONS of other 12 year old boys, are just as big as grown adults now days! And what is a 12 yr old boy doing at the park with a toy that looks like a real gun?!? I say his parents should be in more trouble than that officer! Even if some random caller claimed to the dispatcher that the gun he was pointing “at everyone” was just a toy, the fact that they called the police instead of handling it themselves means they found the situation to be a serious problem. Everything happens for a reason ~ the reason this kid got shot by an officer that was called to the scene is because he was trying to behave like some badass thug and was pointing a gun at everyone. It’s a shame he died, but this should pose as an example of how people should not be acting rather than trying to be showcased as yet another trigger-happy officer. They are authority and our country would be quite chaotic without them or with people feeling like there is no reason to respect them.

  • Pip Thinkabit

    Maybe the question to be asked should be “why, when told by a law enforcement officer to put his hands up, did the 12 year old try to whip out the fake gun?” Maybe you should ask your local African American leadership what’s being done to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

    And also, removing the orange tip from any airsoft gun makes it a real weapon, not a toy. They’re not even sold as “toys”.

  • Chris Karsten

    If this person knew it was a toy, why in gods name did they call 911? the person who irresponsibly called 911 for what they knew was a non-threatening situation should be arrested by the police and sued by the parents of this child!

    • chris

      You’re ignorant. They said they didn’t know if it was real. Plus they were looking out for the children in the playground. Heaven forbid someone ever try to help if your child is in the same situation. The parents should be sued if anyone. They bought the gun allowing the orange tip to be removed. Their son under their guidance thought it ok to take a realistic looking gun to a public park, point it at people, shoot cars, terrorize folks and behave like a little thug, not listen to authorities, reach for a gun to pull on authorities

      • Chris Karsten

        Dude — if you can read, you should look up the definition of ‘ignorant,’ and look in the mirror while you’re doing it, just to reinforce what an ignorant fool and idiot looks and sounds like. From the article:

        “The citizen who called 911 on the boy clearly warned the dispatcher that child’s toy gun was fake(raw recording below). “

  • Chels

    Ummm…. Did yall listen to the recording? The caller never said it was fake. He said he didn’t know if it was real or not. The caller said he keeps pointing it at people and it was scaring the shit out of him. Have yall also looked at the BB gun? It looks extremely real. I have guns in my home and I teach my children gun safety. What I don’t have in my home is toy guns. Guns are toys so I believe they should never be viewed as a toy. Parents need to educate their children not to be taking BB guns or realistic looking guns in public and pointing them at people. That is what is ridiculous. Also teach your children to follow directions as givin. Lets think a minute you have a middle school aged kid on a played with a very realistic bb gun pointing it at people. Cops pull ask him to put his hands in the air and he goes to pull the gun out of his waistband. Trigger happy cop or a child that has not been taught gun safety and to follow directions? It’s unfortunate he died but very bad decision making on him and his parents. Sad. Cops have a dangerous job and with all the shootings in schools and other places with shooters that are children It is definitely something to be taken serious.

  • Your Next

    Freeeeeedooooommmmmm!

    • Happy Tinfoil Cat

      That number comes from the FBI which doesn’t do a very good job of collecting data. The actual number of people killed by police in the USA averages around 1,200 per year.

  • j

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  • acverdier

    Why the Hell was 911 called in the first place?? Whoever did that… is the one responsible for this. Why would you call 911 then warn them that the “child” has a “toy gun”. Seriously?!?! Who does that..

    • chris

      Someone who was looking out for the other kids in the playground. If your ignorant ass actually read or listened he never said it was a toy. He said he didn’t know. The only ones to blame are the parents and the child. They bought the gun, removed the identifying cap, taught him to have no respect, consequences. He decided to terrorize point the gun at them, shoot cars and be a little thug, not to listen to officers, reach inside his shirt. He and his parents made a series of bad choices that led to this tragedy

  • http://Sott.net/ Joe Quinn

    F**king sleaze bag cop. “the young man”. CALL HIM WHAT HE IS or was, A CHILD! The CHILD was shot by the police officer! The CHILD!

    • chris

      Thug child who would’ve ended up in prison or dead in a gang related shooting later. Maybe this tragedy saved someone elses child

  • Steve Hollandsworth

    get your shit together…..The caller has even stated that they did not know if the gun was real or not… Kids need to realize that taking the orange tip off of a gun does not make you cool, because it looks like a real gun. Instead, it simply gets you killed. Case in point……

  • Brandie A

    Are you for real? The 911 caller says there’s a guy with a pistol, it’s probably fake but he’s pulling it out and pointing it at people scaring the !#&$ out of people in the park. The caller says it’s probably a fake but I don’t know twice. The caller also calls him a guy, not a child. When the police approached him they told him to show his hands but instead he lifted his shirt showing the gun that did not have the indicator cap and then he reached into his waist band and grabbed it. Of course there’s the family in the video talking about its nothing other then he was another black kid shot by the police. No, it’s another case of a kids being taught nothing more then stupid behavior and no respect for people. Why the hell is your 12 year old kid with an toy air soft gun replicated to look like a real one out on the streets. Why would he then play with it by pulling it out and pointing it at people to scare them? Why wasn’t he taught how to act when an officer confronts him? This is negligent parenting and this child should of been taught better!

  • Sharolaid

    The Police in the SNES game called Earthbound, are just like the police in real life.

  • Wingsfan81

    “It’s probably fake” is what he clearly said. Not that it WAS fake. It was not a “toy” gun. It was a pellet gun made to look lik a real gun. Pellet guns are not toys

  • Bill Stevens

    This article is yellow journalistic trash. If that were a real handgun the kid wouldn’t have the “right” to bear arms because he’s not an adult. His parents would’ve gone to prison for him even carrying it.

    There are so many actual abuses by cops, why do you guys make a big deal out of what is essentially bad luck for a moron?

  • Joan Hervey

    Why was 911 called in the first place, if the caller knew it was a toy gun?

  • PJScilla

    It’s funny how a police officer will open fire on a child playing with a toy gun and NOT on a man walking out of a theater carrying a gun covered in the blood of his victims…….no, he gets a trial.

  • Godchild

    Edward you make good points. This is a difficult situation. Because there have been so many teen shootings in the USA it’s difficult to determine the boys true intentions. I think the cop should have asked the kid to drop the gun and if the kid refused and pointed the gun mabye shoot a leg or tazer the kid would have been a better desicion to make then killing him.
    I am not taking sides here. I’m simply trying to bring up a few points in this specific type of situation. I live in a small town with a high crime rate. Most crimes are committed by the teenager groups through shootings. Statistics prove this and are making police take higher precautions. There’s kids bringing guns to school here. And recently a cop was killed by a teen here in OHIO. So I can definitely understand how serious the cops would take a situation like this. Parents need to try their best to communicate with their kids about the dangers of having anything that may look like a gun on them. Toy guns should be banned period. Guns should be banned period!!!. However that will not happen. And toy guns cannot be painted because then a real gun can be painted aswell and disguised as a toy. Point is that this really is a difficult situation. However the verdict should have been different. God made us all equal reguardless of our IQ or status. So I say it is not fair for a colored kid to kill a police dog out of self defense with a pocket knife and serve life and see a cop set free after killing a kid. Point is that the system is flawed. And it is difficult to unflaw a system created for suck a diverse population. Because not everyone has a good spirit or soul or moral value. And not everyone will abide by the law. This world has become like the story of sodom and gamora in the bible. The world is getting to the point were laws no longer work and GOD is realizing that.
    It’s all going to boil down to war if this keeps up. I read the back and fourth fighting and arguing. The name calling. The bashing for poor spelling and grammar. But the point of all this is
    We are upset. We feel unsafe. We want security!!!…and we aren’t getting that. Things are looking bad. We’ll for 1 we can blame a few sources for a lot of this. 1) the media. Everyone wants to be a superstar and sadly most superstars, actors, singers are fashionising crimes, drugs, death, cheating, adultery, murder… Etc…..these are our kids role models. This is when parenting becomes important. What schools your kids attend is important. Media is like a disease that should be avoided at all cost because it is training our kids that wrongs are “cool”….
    And a lot of us don’t deserve to be categorized in the same bracket as the ones who truly are evil because we share a similar seance of fashion and culture and probably might look the same and a so called ” real killer”…..schools have kids wearing uniforms now. Some schools won’t allow certain designs in kids hair because it brings about status and inequality amongst classmates. Eventually to truly protect this world there will need to be a one world order and rule. Similar to the movie divergent. Were everyone will accept a certain class and job and that’s it!. The very freedom we fight for will be stripped from us. All due to the power of deception and influence. Propaganda, media, television ( tell- lie- vision)
    In these times we see a vast if videos saying everything we know is a lie as they introduce a new so called TRUTH. However we fail to look at the fact that the ones introducing this new truth is the same entity that introduced the lie to begin with. So we are stuck not knowing what to trust anymore. We need trust GOD!!!..
    How do we know what’s god?…you feel it since birth way before you ever learn a single thing.
    It’s called instinct. The ability to know right from wrong. To know pain from pleasure. Because kids aren’t born with murderous intentions. Sadly as adults we grow bitter due to the cards delt in our lives. But that’s what makes us stronger. To give in to evil is easy. Taking life is easy but giving life is hard. Look I could write a lot here about how we as a speceis could be better people but the point is it won’t happen over night from the way things are looking. The source (media, propaganda.etc must be changed. Influence is the problem here because we all learned from someone. And that someone taught us what they learned. This goes back centuries were this evil system was created and we just fall for it over and over. And yes we are fed up!. It seems irreversible! So in my opinion what needs to be done is a huge change in media and propoganda. Because we only know what we are taught!. And if were only learning how to kill ourselves off and poison ourselves and actually enjoy it because of how highly it is fashionized then we have list the #1 gift GOD gave us…..CHOICE
    May god have mercy on our dictators souls.
    Stay blessed everyone.

  • http://1111111.com/ Seantown[ᵐᵒᵈ]

    i dont understand why the call was made to 911 if the caller knew it was a toy?

  • Godchild

    Edward you make good points. This is a difficult situation. Because there have been so many teen shootings in the USA it’s difficult to determine the boys true intentions. I think the cop should have asked the kid to drop the gun and if the kid refused and pointed the gun mabye shoot a leg or tazer the kid would have been a better desicion to make then killing him.
    I am not taking sides here. I’m simply trying to bring up a few points in this specific type of situation. I live in a small town with a high crime rate. Most crimes are committed by the teenager groups through shootings. Statistics prove this and are making police take higher precautions. There’s kids bringing guns to school here. And recently a cop was killed by a teen here in OHIO. So I can definitely understand how serious the cops would take a situation like this. Parents need to try their best to communicate with their kids about the dangers of having anything that may look like a gun on them. Toy guns should be banned period. Guns should be banned period!!!. However that will not happen. And toy guns cannot be painted because then a real gun can be painted aswell and disguised as a toy. Point is that this really is a difficult situation. However the verdict should have been different. God made us all equal reguardless of our IQ or status. So I say it is not fair for a colored kid to kill a police dog out of self defense with a pocket knife and serve life and see a cop set free after killing a kid. Point is that the system is flawed. And it is difficult to unflaw a system created for suck a diverse population. Because not everyone has a good spirit or soul or moral value. And not everyone will abide by the law. This world has become like the story of sodom and gamora in the bible. The world is getting to the point were laws no longer work and GOD is realizing that.
    It’s all going to boil down to war if this keeps up. I read the back and fourth fighting and arguing. The name calling. The bashing for poor spelling and grammar. But the point of all this is
    We are upset. We feel unsafe. We want security!!!…and we aren’t getting that. Things are looking bad. We’ll for 1 we can blame a few sources for a lot of this. 1) the media. Everyone wants to be a superstar and sadly most superstars, actors, singers are fashionising crimes, drugs, death, cheating, adultery, murder… Etc…..these are our kids role models. This is when parenting becomes important. What schools your kids attend is important. Media is like a disease that should be avoided at all cost because it is training our kids that wrongs are “cool”….
    And a lot of us don’t deserve to be categorized in the same bracket as the ones who truly are evil because we share a similar seance of fashion and culture and probably might look the same and a so called ” real killer”…..schools have kids wearing uniforms now. Some schools won’t allow certain designs in kids hair because it brings about status and inequality amongst classmates. Eventually to truly protect this world there will need to be a one world order and rule. Similar to the movie divergent. Were everyone will accept a certain class and job and that’s it!. The very freedom we fight for will be stripped from us. All due to the power of deception and influence. Propaganda, media, television ( tell- lie- vision)
    In these times we see a vast if videos saying everything we know is a lie as they introduce a new so called TRUTH. However we fail to look at the fact that the ones introducing this new truth is the same entity that introduced the lie to begin with. So we are stuck not knowing what to trust anymore. We need trust GOD!!!..
    How do we know what’s god?…you feel it since birth way before you ever learn a single thing.
    It’s called instinct. The ability to know right from wrong. To know pain from pleasure. Because kids aren’t born with murderous intentions. Sadly as adults we grow bitter due to the cards delt in our lives. But that’s what makes us stronger. To give in to evil is easy. Taking life is easy but giving life is hard. Look I could write a lot here about how we as a speceis could be better people but the point is it won’t happen over night from the way things are looking. The source (media, propaganda.etc must be changed. Influence is the problem here because we all learned from someone. And that someone taught us what they learned. This goes back centuries were this evil system was created and we just fall for it over and over. And yes we are fed up!. It seems irreversible! So in my opinion what needs to be done is a huge change in media and propoganda. Because we only know what we are taught!. And if were only learning how to kill ourselves off and poison ourselves and actually enjoy it because of how highly it is fashionized then we have list the #1 gift GOD gave us…..CHOICE
    May god have mercy on our dictators souls.
    Stay blessed everyone.

  • mimi_x5

    Completely heartbreaking…a kid killed for acting like a kid. The days of playing “cops and robbers” are definitely over. It’s so sad how the world has changed since I was a kid playing with my toy guns.

  • Jeff Lachance

    If a “toy gun” is “fake” does that make it real?

  • Guest

    This police officer needs to be kidnapped & beheaded on video!

  • Anne

    NOT EVERY FUCKING COP IS A TRIGGER HAPPY RACIST PIG! I am a black woman who indeed dealt with discrimination based on both my race and gender. However, I am also the child of an amazing woman who happens to be a police officer. If nothing else in this world I know my mom’s heart and know that she is not on the dark side of her badge. I know that she holds true to what she took an oath for. But even more so I know that she doesn’t hide behind that badge nor make irrational decisions and use that badge as an excuse. She taught me that wrong is wrong no matter who you are or what career you take on.

  • kia

    Here’s a question. Maybe I missed it but why did they call 911 in the first place?

  • Idiots

    Whoever runs this website and wrote this story is a fucking moron. Did you listen to the end of the sound clip? The caller said he had no idea if it was actually real or not. People like you are the reason we have police brutality… Moron.

  • Angie Swayze

    1. There’s nothing showing the information about the gun being fake was relayed to the officer. 2. Why would someone call 911 if they knew it was a child with a fake gun?

  • Angie Swayze

    3. The constitution does not guarantee the right of a 12 year old to own a gun. 4. A police office should never rush someone with a gun that they don’t know is fake. This puts their lives at risk and is ridiculous to even propose.

  • friendlyface

    For some reason the 911 call was made!You dont just call 911 for the HELL of it. The man on the phone must have been concerned or he would have never made the call. The guy in the video said the gun was “probably” fake not that is “was” fake but whether or not it was it was scaring everyone. That gun looked real!! He was handling that gun, LIKE IT WAS REAL!! 12 years old or not, he can pull that trigger and kill someone. People seem to forget that if he is 12 years old now and acing like he has a gun and carrying that way, then the next time it isnt going to be a toy. Those two cops pulled into an incident to where they were threatened and other people/children were threatened as well. They told the child to put up his hands. These officers had their guns drawn on him but instead of putting up his hands, he reached for the gun. Think about what you would do in that situation. His life or mine? His life or an innocent child standing next to him? If he would have killed a child that day, what would this story be today?

    • useless eater

      A similar thing happened to me when i was kid. But this was before cops were so eager to use the possible threat to their personal safety in order to justify an excuse to use deadly force.

      I had a BB gun, they told me to put it down. I did the exact opposite. I raised the gun to show them it wasn’t real. … To my little kid brain, that made sense.

  • Sarah

    They forgot to put the word probably in this article. “Is probably fake…”. Almost doesn’t count.

  • MtlDeath

    I’m glad im not a kid these days.. when I was 9 I bought a starter pistol from a flea market and used to shoot it off around the neighborhood cause it was cool, sounded like a loud firecracker and could see a lil flame come out the end…everyone had a cap gun n whatnot we’d have our lil wars with.. cops wouldda gunned us all down if we did that today. Altho I did live in Miami then ’79.. prolly wasn’t anything unusual lol

  • wrongiswrong

    Are you all deaf the caller says it could be fake but i don’t know he is pulling it out pointing it at people. At that point he is a threat. Any passer by could have shot him if he pointed at them. The Orange caps on toy guns are there just for this reason….

  • molon_labe

    People riot for Mike Brown, who just strong arm robbed a store, and yet this video is clear and no one says a word about this poor kid.
    You want to protest, I will stand by you and suck on tear gas together for this kid. But do it for the right reasons. This kid needs justice. If your police are so poorly trained that they cannot assess rather or not a child is a threat, then you need new police. I’ve seen 17 year old privates come out of basic training with more situational awareness and common sense then some of these police officers. And on the other side of the coin, where the $#%& were this kids parents yet again?
    I think we can see where the “war on drugs” has taken us. They’ve created a new breed of police. Ones with a military mindset that see only threats instead of citizens.

    • Ran Wise

      Well said

  • danjuangarza

    If the caller to 911 knew it was a toy gun, why did he call?

  • kevinl4000

    Shooting a kid at the slightest hint of threat just to make sure you go home after shift. Think you’re brave? Courageous? The cop is a fraidy-cat coward who couldn’t give a 12-yr old two extra seconds to surrender and show that he wasn’t a threat. Just like Deputy Erick Gelhaus.

    • molon_labe

      You’re 100% right. I train soldiers for a living, and our company is trying to expand into the police world. And I’m fighting tooth and nail against it. Mainly because cops today aren’t like they used to be thanks to the war on drugs. They see everyone as potential targets (a 12 yo kid for instance) There is a reason we have the Posse Comitatus Act. Because citizens have rights. I’m not sorry to say this at all. Officer safety does not trump my rights. You are “supposed” to put yourself in harms way so I may enjoy them.
      To get back to what I was saying. They love no knock raids. (And often on the wrong house) It is completely ridiculous. In Iraq we cordoned the area and knocked in all but the most dangerous circumstances. But these cops want to play hollywood. And they have killed numerous people who thought they were defending their home from intruders because they didn’t announce their presence. Those that killed a cop without knowing face murder charges. It’s wrong. Period. They have the means to cordon, cut water, electric and man/fire power. But I guess they’d rather raid grandma’s house. Flashbang her cat and then high 5 like their badasses.

  • Christopher Matthew

    10 people have been killed by police SINCE this. Currently this year: 1,001.
    https://www.facebook.com/KilledByPolice

  • Xandersnatch

    How about letting this story come to the mainstream instead of this current bullshit with Michael Brown and Darren Wilson? Would it be paranoid to wonder if the reason they push up a story like that is the fact that Michael Brown was guilty of theft and attacked the store clerk, and probably attacked Darren as well, so they promote the story because it appears to discredit criticism of police? Then, to muddle the image further, they make-believe that it’s an issue of racism. Don’t get me wrong, racism by cops is not a myth, and there are certainly cases of innocent black men being incarcerated or murdered due to a prejudiced officer, but the deal in Ferguson was not related to race at all. Again, I believe the media was using that to distract people from the real issue.

    When I say the “media,” understand that I mean neither just the “democrat’s” point of of view or the “republican’s,” but that both side’s opinions on the matter are being exploited in a way that in the end will get in the way of change.

    • Xandersnatch

      I’d also like to clarify further about the media using racism as a distraction. The fact that, as I’ve said, there are so many cases of actual racism from police resulting in deaths of innocent black americans, I don’t believe that the media truly cares about that issue, and just found this example of “white cop kills black man,” because they knew thats what people would focus on. Hell, not every case of a cop killing an innocent black man is fueled by racism, sometimes the cop is just trigger-happy and would shoot even if it was the fucking Pope, but the media chose a story specifically in which the deceased was guilty, and the events could be construed as the result of racism.

  • ChristCrusader

    I don’t understand why police use the military strategy of rushing the threat, escalating immediately to comply or die.
    Why not evaluate and try de-escalation?
    Why aren’t they pulling up and parking along the road?
    If they’d put some distance between them and the suspect, taken cover and given orders, then maybe it could have afforded some more grace rather than instant execution – defensive or not.

  • garry

    the cops should have just pulled up and gave instruction from a safe distance without even getting out the car. No, they have to go and escalate EVERY situation

  • Raymond O’Hearn

    After seeing the video it is clear that the police officers and his departments account of events are flat out lies.

    • molon_labe

      Every single police officer should be required to wear a camera. That’s the way to fix the blue wall of lies. Quite honestly it is ridiculous that they’re not. But i guess we’re the only ones it’s OK to put under surveillance 24 hours a day.

  • Mark Johnson

    If anyone is responsible, the it is the person who called the 911 to begin with. Who calls the cops on a 12 year old with a fake gun? Then you have the dispatcher, she was told several time that it was a kid with a toy gun. She then tells the responding officers that a “black male with a gun keeps pointing it at people.”

  • killtofu

    So why did the initial caller ever call the police if that person knew it was an imitation gun and posed no danger ? That person is the murderer

  • Patricia

    Looks like the boy knelt down as soon as the police pulled up.. I don’t see him fall from the shot.

  • sick and tired

    it seems terrorists in war have more rights than we do on the streets. You can’t
    fire until fired upon

  • Joe K

    Everything, EVERYTHING is distorted by the media when it comes to police. The whole story is never given, bits are left out, and the story is meant to grab peoples attention in anyway possible. 1. Has anyone watched the video and seen the bb gun the boy was carrying? It has no orange tip, it is extremely real looking, and proportional in size to a real gun. 2. If you go to https://news.yahoo.com/cleveland-release-video-boy-shot-officer-110012912.html you will get the actual shooting. It shows the boy clearly reaching into his waistband after “he ordered the youngster 3 times to put up his hands.” 3. Have you seen the news recently on things like school shootings? Who’s to say that wasn’t a real gun? Were the guns fake that other kids his age brought to school and killed numerous people with? Where did they get theirs? 4. The comment I agree with the comment “If there was not an issue or fear of the gun being real real, why even call in the first place?” The boy was waving a potential gun around in a public park. 5. Think about the time it takes to turn a gun on someone. A second or two and the story could have been “12 year old boy shoots cop.” I could keep going on, but it doesn’t matter because people look for a reason to hate cops. By the way “thatoneguy” about your comment “they will never hesitate to ruin a life over something trivial” don’t blame the cops because some cop probably discovered your dimebag or something, WHICH YOU WEREN’T SUPPOSED TO HAVE, or if you did something YOU WEREN’T SUPPOSED TO DO. For every questionable act there are a thousand acts of decency and good police work. All you have to do in a situation like this and every other video you see portraying cops negatively in that 30 second clip is look deeper. Ask where is the other 15 minutes of the clip that lead to the incident?

  • George Patrick Shiflett

    Did anyone ever think the cops are not doing anything we are not doing , there have been quite a few cop killings , those two tea party people in Nevada that went and killed those cops and then that guy in wall mart, the guy in calif that killed one park ranger and a cop , i think that might put the cops on edge , i don’t condone the cops beating up on women like on the side of the road in California or the cop that raped that girl in Texas, but as the right wing gets more militant with its terrorists groups oath keepers and Los and 3% and sovereign citizens and the militia’s , it is a natural progression the more militant a group gets the more militant the cops get , i think in this case the right wing has made the cops this way , they were never like this 20 years ago , the fact is , the crazier man gets the crazier cops will get

    • Billy Beacham

      hey dic head look those people up they all were and 99.9% are left wing liberals that mass murders

      • George Patrick Shiflett

        your an idiot

        • Billy Beacham

          lol , who gives a crap what you say or any ass backward liberal has to say

          • George Patrick Shiflett

            if 99% of the left wingers are mass murderers , then you have a problem Billy

          • Billy Beacham

            hey dic head of all the mass murders 99% of them was left wing liberals, not ALL liberals, as for being a problem for me , no….liberals as a whole are nothing but puss…..e

          • George Patrick Shiflett

            an assumption , not very wise is that , and you think the right wing don’t kill you are a fool and a moron and don’t give me that 99% crap about liberals , you are alive are you not , why would a liberal or the 99% of liberals that murder everyone as you say left you alive , did they miss something , a whole lot of liberals are trained snipers , and they missed you , because i can tell you are one of those that would not be a loss at all , interesting , out of the mouths of morons comes the truth of the right wing , only a fool makes an assumption like that ,

          • Billy Beacham

            no you stupid fuc , of the people that did the mass killings 99% of them was far left thinking ” not all Liberals” you see now why they call you liberals stupid ? They miss me , how fuc-ing stupid are you. LOL where did I say right wing doesn,t kill ? Show me dic head , stupid fuc ! LOL its not a assumption its a fact , just look it up of the people that did the mass shootings ” NOT ALL OF the FAR LEFT STUPID FUC” LOL thanks for showing what Mr Gruber said , American liberal voters are stupid , is right on. Only a fool doesn,t have clue in what they are running off at the mouth is saying. But that’s the liberal way…..LOL Truth hurts doesn,t it , you fuc-in puss…..e

          • George Patrick Shiflett

            you are not worth the time , you are another one of those inbred pieces of shit that should not even be allowed to exists, the right wing should have been culled a long time ago , and maybe its getting time to do just that , and if you think i am a puss , you can test that theory anytime you choose

          • Billy Beacham

            you are really one stupid shit head , you puss…e liberals are nothing but mouth any time you want to try just bring your sorry ass to Greenville Nc, would ask you where you live but stupid fuc,s only know how to lie…believe me its not a theory

          • George Patrick Shiflett

            Hemet Calif , ask any biker you see give them my name they will know where i am , i have nothing to lose , might as well have some fun

          • Billy Beacham

            lol ,ask them to come your need all the help you can get , call Langley Va. and ask about me. so your the kind of low life that gives bikers a bad name , and that’s Hemet Ca. not Calif.

          • George Patrick Shiflett

            Langley i took one of those punks as a spotter , when i was running ops with Air America , they used to fly me around on my jungle vacation , talk about Puss every one of them , hunting was not their style bunch of punks could not hang in the jungle for long periods of time in the rain and it rained all the time , come on i am a old man , it should be easy for you , i was crawling around in the Jungle when you were in diapers , , come to Hemet we will have a party , be advised you don’t scare me , i did thee tours in the jungle for months at a time hunting and being hunted , in places we should have never been so frankly i am unimpressed

          • Billy Beacham

            LOL , your not as old as I , dic head your no American . Your an joke of a man , so you ride with drug addicts , smoke dope in the woods ,in the rain ..big fuc-in deal , so you lost a war , yep again what a fuc-in puss…e ! Plus you don,t know shit , their are a lot of different gov,t. agencies in Langley , not just the CIA dic head. But then your a liberal stupid is what stupid is.

          • George Patrick Shiflett

            lets play

          • Billy Beacham

            bring it , your the one saying how freaking bad you are ,are you all mouth or what , boy

          • George Patrick Shiflett

            you are the one that keeps running your mouth , you keep calling me a puss , as i said you can come and test that assumption any time you feel like it , no one will attack you they will just tell you where i am or they will bring you too me ,

          • Billy Beacham

            lol , go back and read all of your post again , oh that’s right …you people blame others for your short comings …as for being attack …LOL…the only thing people like you attack are unborn babies

          • George Patrick Shiflett

            thats right i like women having the right to choose , its called freedom , freedom from right wing oppression, its what i killed for in Nam , communist oppression , but i found out its alive and well in the right wing , in people like you and you , believe that only your way is the right way , only your laws are the right laws , only your religion is the right religion and only your morals are the ones to follow , we fought against that enemy in Nam , now you and the right wing are that enemy , the fight against tyranny and oppression of the people is never over , you people are like a snake rearing your ugly heads in the face of uncertainty all the time

          • Billy Beacham

            lol stupid fuc puss….e

    • Billy Beacham

      lol , should look up what the progressive agenda is all about and how and why they where founded , talk about your stupid fuc , your on top of the list

      • molon_labe

        That guys insane. Which is typical of leftists. While they get beat down by cops and pepper sprayed and tear gassed (or even murdered) they fail to realize that while they cry for bigger Government, big government is murdering them. Oh the irony. So stupid it’s laughable.

  • George Patrick Shiflett

    Oh and by the way , what the cop did with that kid was wrong , if the cop was a rookie he should have been trained better , but still a kid is dead and there is no call for that kid to be dead , oh and by the way the place with basically no gun deaths is Japan , hard to get guns there and if you kill some one with a gun there , you will never make it to the squad car , and every one knows this

  • Guest

    The caller described him as a guy. That implies adult. They came in with the mindset of confronting an adult who would not likely be waving a gun around in public unless he was gonna do something. Playing with a toy gun in public is something we might reasonably expect a 12 year old kid might do. Once they saw it was a kid, why didn’t that occur to them? And shame on that sycophant cop-caller. He seemed to know it was a toy but wanted to show this rowdy black kid a lesson in who’s the boss. He is complicit.

  • WarOfSelf

    AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!!

  • shandi

    Kill these cops now!

  • voice of reason

    Air soft guns have Orange tips so people know they are fake. I don’t care what his race or 12 or 20 years old. He reached for a very realistic toy gun. This isn’t the first time this has happened. In this day and age parents need to educate their kids to not behave like this. I seen comments comparing this to Boy Scouts getting to shoot guns and Cub Scouts getting to shoot BB guns. They are shooting in a controlled range. They are taught range safety. They are taught to not do exactly what happened here.
    I mentioned the Orange safety tip that is missing from the gun in the news video above. Gangs here in Chicago have had guns confiscated. Real guns that they have painted the tips Orange to trick people and or the police into thinking that it isn’t real.
    It’s a tragic loss. Kid made a very serious mistake. We have the benefit of time on our hands. Whether it’s minutes hours days months or years to think about this and how better it could be handled. The video is there. Life or death decisions in seconds.

  • Beammeup

    I’m still waiting for someone to say or at least ask…. Why the hell did this ‘citizen’ call the cops if they knew this was a child with a toy gun!! Something doesn’t make sense here.

  • pandora delphy

    Who’s this insane fucking asshole who made the fucking phone call, also? Was it really scaring the shit out of him? This piece of shit is also responsible for getting that kid killed, because he made the fucking call to begin with.

    • molon_labe

      And he knew it was a toy! I can’t even believe it. I saw that video and i cried. A 35 year old 6’3 man. Cried like a baby for that kid. Never stood a chance. Not a &#!%@!$ chance.

  • molon_labe

    Every officer should be required to wear a camera. There is no acceptable excuse not to any longer. But it’s up to us to put political pressure and ensure it happens. And for the love of god, RECORD THEM. It is not now, or has been illegal to record the police. So long as you do not hinder them from doing their job.

  • Phasung Baccam

    Somebody need to disarm cop who kill kids we need stand up fight back police are killing too many citizen where are we stand at we cant just standing their doing nothing disband police unoin who covering up dirty cop

  • http://PricesKarate.com/ DavePrice

    I zoomed up to 400%. I see what I seen. kid was playing with a gun, put it in his waist, got up and walked towards the cop car. lifted his shirt showing a gun. Cop shot. Terrible. was it something that should not have happened? of course. Did this officer murder this boy. no. sound would help. better training for police officers could really help. raising the stupid IQ limit for police officers with guns past the almost retard level of 103 is … stupid. Purposely cutting those wanting to be officers that have an IQ over 103 is more criminal than what this officer did.. although he was too quick to shoot. gun was never drawn. Manslaughter, loose your job, but we need to look over the heads of these cops.. better training, loosing the low IQ limit. Putting a spotlight on judges that never press charges or question a policeman in their courts also should be addressed. Now is the time for remembrance of a lost life, a child’s life :*(

    • Missouri Parent

      My IQ is over 140 and I’m made to feel like a fool on a daily basis. When you are as dumb as these cops; feeling stupid is a curse left to the thinkers.

  • Harry Houston

    TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242

    Whoever, under color of any law, statute,
    ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State,
    Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any
    rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or
    laws of the United States, … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
    not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts
    committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use,
    attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;
    and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if
    such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse,
    or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall
    be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or
    both, or may be sentenced to death.

    http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/242fin.php

  • adam lynn

    its so stupid easy to pick out the police officers defending someone murdering a child its almost funny…… almost. MURDER is MURDER weather its somebody with a badge on or not. did you fucking stupid cops watch the video at all? probably not but you will still jump at the gun to stick up for your fellow officer who you most likely have never met. you idiots can argue with people all you want but no one cares about the crap that comes out of your mouth because your actions have already proved that you will stick up for your fellow cunts no matter what. yes there are alot of good cops and you should defend them until the end. but sticking up for murderers of children prove to the whole world that that you fucks are in it together and will back up your fellow officers even if they committed a heinous crime? WOW? how do you sleep at night?

  • Rusty Bucket

    If the 911caller knew the gun was a toy. Why did she/he call the cops?

  • Pat Seymour

    Why cops shoot to kill is beyond me, a single non lethal shot to a limb would be more then enough surely?

  • Mike Loringer

    Idk if u listen to the recording of the 911 caller at the very end he did also he he didn’t actually know if it was real or fake. Mind you he could of did something different then shot him there’s tazers and other non lethal ways to detain someone

  • karl

    The retarded cops and POS government are only trying to create propaganda against guns. Don’t let them win. Because as of now, we can fight back with force. What are we supposed to use against militarized police, with military fucking weapons, if we have nothing?

  • The Glider

    “I don’t know if it’s real or not.” That’s what the caller says, albeit at the end. Of course, the dispatcher doesn’t know what questions to ask.

    I’d love to see the police radio transcript to see how the dispatcher describes the complaint when putting it out. “We have a report of man with a gun pointing it at people.” I betcha that’s what it says.

  • La Alacrana

    The video shows he could of easily tackled the kid to the floor, or he could of not rushed in front of him with the car like that but instead could of came from a distance and could of told him to drop drop the gun. The way I see it the cop came in to aggressive.

  • Brice

    Why did somebody call 911 in the first place if it was just a kid playing with a toy gun? 911 is a last resort, people.

  • Richard Cook

    Cops are terrorist and must be destroyed before they destroy the fabric of our country, the fiber of our being, the donuts that make them quean, and the dildos that make them scream. Go team, go.

  • VooDew

    Its sad but you CAN see him reach into his waistband. A VERY aggressive move to a cop.

  • bigbird2071

    Pigs…the name is just so fitting.

  • 1AmericanKat

    that was a total lack of regard for a human being and that statement by the cops dad is totally irresponsible. i hope the child’s parents file a wrongful death suit. that cop should be ashamed of himself, not excusing himself. as for the police dept, if thats how they treat people, its no wonder why people feel towards cops as they do. it was inexcusable behavior on all the cops and the police dept.

  • James Leftlane Cook III

    Another piece of shit cop somebody shoot this son of a bitch please

  • Jesse Dalton

    This kid was asking for trouble the moment he brought any kind of weapon into the playground. But how can you blame this child, when he, and so many others of African descent, have been brainwashed to over compensate for racial insecurity, through an image, that taunts and strikes fear into the population? We’re all to blame on this one, and the cause will linger long past, claiming many more lives to come…

  • mist42nz

    4) Even if the boy’s toy HAD been a real gun — which it wasn’t, but let’s assume for the moment that it was, just for the sake of argument — the 2nd amendment of the constitution gives citizens the right to keep and bear arms. The police do not have the right to just blow away anybody for holding a gun.

    also it is not unusual when confronting a child, for them to explain themselves – ie the child knew gun was a fake and is likely have told the officer and it is very likely that a child would attempt to prove this by presenting it.
    cop murderer again.

  • Charles Vella

    It was wrong for the cop to shoot this boy when the alternatives were infinite. The only logical explanation is that the officer wanted to kill someone.

  • Dutch

    You Americans since totally crazy when it comes to the use of firearms.
    Read your arguments even if you took any drugs, or if you have been drinking alcohol.
    If a police officer threatened to shoot the hatt he did not quite otherwise.
    With you why so many people die from firearms? Citizens and police officers? Because you thinks he can fix anything by force of arms. And what has brought you? Only more violence and misery.

  • Sheena K

    What kind of parent gives their child a realistic TOY gun?? But for the record…a BB/pellet gun is NOT a toy !!!

  • real life e

    12 yr old can pull a trigger just the same as a 30 yr old all you retards bashing cops call a crackhead next time you need help u fucking morons carry a gun real or fake is illegal if you r tough enough to carry a gun tough enough to get shot by 1 end of story teach your kids right and get off the fucking computer and shit like that would never happen

  • Monika Sturgeon

    There is absolutely no good reason for shooting a 12 year old. Even if the gun had been real. The kid weighs 60 pounds for god sake, tackle him from behind if you must. …as much as I feel for the boy, I feel worse for the girl. These parents need to press charges for BOTH kids, not just the son. That little girl will NEVER trust again. This officer should be shot.

  • joybuzzard

    He went there to kill someone for sport. It’s like a club for cops, cops that have killed someone are treated like heroes by other cops, even if it’s a kid, it’s like a point system.

    • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

      its a lets see who can kill him first contest, ill bet the winner got a dollar, or a beer

  • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

    anyone notice the south park scuzzlebutt argument going on all over now here and LA?? “hes got a gun” is now “it’s headin’ right for us” and has now become synonymous with the shooting command. they just have to say it loudly to justify the shooting, then theyre like oh it was a candy bar sorry,no indictment and it was clearly his fault for eating food that looked like a gun

  • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

    this is the same as the guy who had the “gun” in walmart… it was a store item and someone said it was real and the cops showed up and just shot him. they have ZERO situational awareness now… guess its not part of the training anymore just point and shoot until the clip is empty.

  • Zuckerbamaisapuuhzy

    cops should have to pass an IQ test to be able to have a gun. ignorance breeds fear, being ignorant of most things makes you afraid of most things, therefore willing to shoot anything for any reason you dont understand (which in that case is any reason)

  • malcolmkyle

    We no longer need these killers on our streets!

    According to Paul Craig Roberts, a former editor of the Wall Street Journal and former assistant secretary to the treasury under Ronald Reagan, “Police in the US now rival criminals, and exceed terrorists as the greatest threat to the American public.”

  • Thunder Storm

    To bad they only show part of the video where kid walks up to someone an point it at them, you don’t know if it real or fake. I use to be a armed security guard and id rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6.

  • Chris Bryant

    A lot of ignorant fucks on here. Police are trained for this kind of situation, just like the military. If a Marine or Soldier in Afghanistan can’t fire on someone with a gun until an IMMINENT THREAT is presented, why does this fucking douche bag in Ohio get to kill some kid who never made a threatening gesture towards him get to.

  • Clive

    Victim blaming is what cops seem to do second best. What they do best is brutalize American citizens. These cops have no remorse, no humanity, and no soul.

  • concern citizen

    All of you ppl have serious issues you can’t judge all cops based on a couple of dumb ones who make wrong choices, there’s also bad doctors,bad lawyers,bad teachers and a lot of bad parents and “just because” you can’t just say everyone is bad, unfortunately they only show in the news bad things “some cops” do and you wanna blame every single one of them for other’s mistakes that’s a shame!!! I had only but good things to say about cops ,they had helped me on a time of need and I would always appreciate it, the only one to blame on this case is that one officer who shot the kid (if you want to blame someone) not the entire police force…

  • Josh

    One important piece of information. The 911 dispatcher forgot to tell the cop that the gun was probably a toy. So the cop was literally told a “gun” was being pointed at people in a park. Fact. Look it up. You people stop being tough behind your computers. This site is biased as hell for leaving that out. I’m yet to see or read about one single incident of police “brutality” that wouldn’t have been completely solved by the person simply complying with police instructions. Not one. Cops can be wrong. Sure. Fight them in court. Not the street. Sorry for the reasoned argument. Go back to your pointless emotionally driven cop hating now.

  • Chuck Long

    Maybe new cops should not have guns for a couple years.

  • uncommonsense

    Mmmmmm. Seems to me that the officer who fired the shots was put in an untenable situation by the officer driving the cruiser. Driving right up to your “armed subject” certainly eliminates many potential tactical options that could have been utilized to maximize officer safety. Too bad ………

  • humboldtrick

    At some point THE PEOPLE are going to wake up. Then the cops and politicians will be running for their lives, with no place to run. Cops and politicians better wake the fuck up, because THE PEOPLE are getting really sick of the shit being pulled on us.

  • eric

    SINCE POLICE IN AMERICA ARE NOT HELD RESPONISBLE AND NOT PUNISHED FOR HARMING, HURTING, MURDERING, AND LYING ON BLACK MEN, THEN THE BLACK COMMUNITY ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY MUST HOLD POLICE ACCOUNTABLE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
    TAMIR RICE FAMILY IN CLEVELAND MUST HOLD THOSE TWO COPS WHO MURDERED THEIR UNARMED 12 YEAR OLD SON RESPONSIBLE. THE COPS LIED, LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO AND SHOT THE KID WITHOUT EVEN TELLING THE KID TO FREEZE OR DO NOT MOVE. I AM SURE YOU ALL SEEN THE VIDEO. MAKE THOSE COPS AND THEIR FAMILY LIFE A REAL LIVING HELL FROM NOW ON. HUNT THEM LIKE THEY HUNT BLACK MEN, BLACK PEOPLE PLEAD AND COMPLAIN TOO DAMN MUCH INSTEAD OF TAKING REAL ACTION WHEN THEY ARE BEING OPPRESSED..FIGHT FOR YOUR CHILDREN IF FOR NOTHING ELSE AND STOP BEING COWARDS. THE FUCKING RACIST PROSECUTOR AND THE IGNORANT LYING POLICE WORK TOGETHTER. LISTEN TO THE PROSECUTOR LIE TALKING ABOUT THIS CASE BOTHERS HIM AND THIS COULD HAVE BEEN HIS SON. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIS SON. THE RACIST PROSECUTOR IS REALLY THE COPS ATTORNEY. HE MIGHT AS WELL BE THE COPS DAD. HE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM. THAT IS HOW THEM RACIST IGNORANT WHITE MEN MAKE THEIR MONEY, LYING TO PROTECT EACH OTHER. THOSE COPS AND THEIR FAMILIES LIFE MUST BE MADE A LIVING HELL FROM NOW ON. NO WAY SHOULD THEY GET TO GO ON LIVING AND ENJOYING LIFE FREELY AND HAPPY AFTER LYING AND MURDERING AN UNARMED CHILD. DAMN PIGS, HOPEFULLY THEY WILL DIE VERY VIOLENTLY ON THE STREET.